It is not non sense. It is pretty easy to add one year in there. Not to mention that was also meant to show Bleeding that the offense we run here doesn't throw deep since he was telling me I didn't know the offense we have been using.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

You can look at his entire career and tell that he has almost always had a low average per attempt.

Gotta love it.

I am not trying to bash Alex. He is what he is and this is the longest he has ever been with one coach and system. It isn't like the dude has a long way to go to be able to make a bigger difference. If there was ever a true chance for that to happen it is here with Andy Reid.
No we have not had a real deep threat nor has it ever seemed that Reid has been pushing Alex beyond his comfort zone either with the deep pass.

The claim that this offense doesn't throw deep isn't accurate, either.

IN 2008, Donovan McNabb threw 62 passes that traveled 21+ yards in the air.

In 2014, Alex only threw 18 and that number jumped to 32 last year.

Just a shade over half the amount of agressive passes that got attempted when Reid had a QB that made that a part of his game and had the players out wide to get those passes to.

IMO Dorsey made some decent moves to try to improve the WRs the last 2 off seasons ...Conley, Streater, Williams, Hill, Robinson, Maclin...

As that talent learns how to get open more and more, the more you will see that number rise for Alex Smith.

As I said, I expect that number to get to 40 next year.

No excuses.

That's bull, too.

Sorry.

Alex had to learn a new offense every single year he was in SF until Harbaugh got there and most of those coaching staffs got fired because they were total trash. That has a lot to do with it.

Look at his YPA in that second year under Harbaugh...8.1....pretty damn good. Especially when you factor in that he was completing 70% of his throws that year.

Not far off from last years 7.6...

Also notice that Alex's YPA has dramatically increased each year in KC....while his comp% has also gone up.

6.8 at 60% in 2013
7.2 at 64% in 2014
7.6 at 65% in 2015

And his receivers in 2016 will have more explosiveness and ability to get open than in any of those other years in KC.

Also factor in that the offensive line will be vastly improved, as well.

Now.

I understand that most here want to hate Alex because no matter what, he's always gonna be "another backup QB KC traded for" and that he will never be "our guy" in KC because of such, but the guy is gonna have another big jump in productivity and effectiveness in 2016 and some of you should probably try to....

You know....

Enjoy it.

Maybe they morph the offense some more, but up this point Andy Reid has not used the same offense here as he used in Philly. Yes there are multiple reasons but it is not the same offense here yet if ever.

I don't hate Alex never have never will.
YPA does not correlate with passes over 30 yards. This conversation started over the deep pass that starts at 30 yards. You are twisting some stats there.

That's only partly due to Alex, though.

In Philly, the Eagles had a number of WRs there for a fairly long time that knew the system and didn't need to start from square one each year like has been the case in KC.

Just listen to Alex talking about exactly that.

Reid's offense is the same as its been for quite some time and he has the largest playbook in the league...very tough to learn. That's why the continuity Alex talks about in this is so important and why it's silly to dismiss it.

The backs know the offense.
The OL (except Schwartz and the rook) knows the offense
3 of the top WRs know the offense
The QBs know the offense (even Hogan, according to Reid)

Alex and the offense should be able to "hit the ground running" in 2016 and use the new guys as wrinkles in the offense they can add gradually...by years end I expect a really really fun offense to watch.

Outside of maybe 4 QBs, nobody consistently threw 30 or 40 yards bombs consistently last year.

who knows....with all the firepower at RB and the improved line, maybe those attempts even go up more than I think because of teams respect for the ground game.

Sorry for picking on you CR. I guess I'm just trying to make a point that I see Alex having an equal jump in production and effectiveness in 2016 and am trying to illustrate the signs that back up that assumption with what is going on and what has happened the last 3 years leading up to this point.

Using the 2014 numbers we threw 2.5% of the time which ranked us dead last. While the NFL average was 6.5%. The most was just over 10%. This were all in that 21 to 30 yard range that you were talking about.
If we doubled our throws in 2015 we would be some where around the 5% area. Maybe with the additions we have made and the time in the system we will improve to that average area. That would be absolutely fine with me as well. I do not want one of those offenses that throws deep continually. I favor the defensive game plan. I do wish that Alex had a better mid to deep game. It has been improving. I have always thought and said on here that he is good enough to get us there. He is just not going to be the QB that throws it all over down the field. He is going to play complementary football to the entire team to make the team as successful as he possibly can.

You are not picking on me. We are discussing, nicely, slight differences. You just think I hate Alex because that was the mantra around here for a long time.

If Smith can trust his Oline and his receivers this year it will be a first.

If we have more than 1 WR that can really make things happen it will be the first time since all the way back to Paige and Carson.

just run a smooth offense and the crowd will back you