Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12635635)

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12635635)

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12636116)

Dorsey needs to set himself apart by finding our QBOTF while were having all these shitty winning seasons. Maybe we should do it like the Patriots did and get lucky with a 6th round pick. That'd be great. The whole idea that a team has to lose games to find a QB is BS. Keep, winning keep stacking the D and find the QBOTF any way you can. Doesn't have to be the same old argument.

Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12636119)

That would be even better but I don't see the team sacrificing picks or players to trade up into the 1st or 2nd round to get a QB. The problem is that KC continues to hope on having Patriot fortune and lucking into a late round surprise. So far they are batting .000.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12636139)

Like I said Dorsey needs to set himself apart and find The guy.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12635653)

Well, for you and your life, that decision is yours to make.

For me, the season is long.. and the more weeks that I can smile over a win.. the later in the year where I can view KC as relevant.. is pleasing to me.. adds a little something positive throughout the football year.

I can see both sides of this.. but imho, my side is a hell of a lot happier.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12636165)

The Chiefs are just as irrelevant now as they were when they were 2-14.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12636165)

The Chiefs are just as irrelevant now as they were when they were 2-14.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12635647)

I understand the Alex Smith trade. It was a win now move from Hunt/Dorsey/Reid because this fan base needed wins after years of Pioli/Cassel. It stabilized the team and allowed them to build depth. Great....thanks for the wins. Now is the time to ditch that buoy and build a team that can actually compete for SBs in the future.

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12636199)

:clap:
I agree completely.
I keep hanging on to that thread of hope year after year. But the logical side of me sees it the way Hamas does. The business known as The Chiefs is continually a very profitable business. Why would they risk that ? They're current operating procedure is pretty damn successful.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12636203)

I tend to see it like philfree... winning seasons and acquiring a QBOTF dont have to be mutually exclusive

A trade up into the top of the second round is totally feasible, for example

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12636228)

A few losing seasons caused by a high draft pick QB bust will cost them big time $$. While continuing down the same old path has been and still is very profitable.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12636263)

I respectfully disagree, Chiefs fans packed Arrowhead for consecutive, and truly awful, years... the fans arent going to abandon this team

Besides that...

Dorsey will get us a QBOTF while maintaining a winning vibe, I'd swear on it

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12636268)

I didn't say the team was or will be abandoned. I'm talking about the $$ involved. Surely you don't think losing seasons are as profitable as winning seasons ?