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DJ's left nut 01-09-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12670546)
I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

Reid is an amazing teacher and leader.

People spend too much time worrying about what a coach does from a tactical perspective when much of that heavy lifting is done by coordinators. A head coach's success/failure comes more from the tone he sets and the amount of 'buy in' he gets from his guys.

Andy Reid is revered in NFL circles by players and assistants alike. Andy Reid is an amazing head coach.

John Dorsey's a good GM but if I could only keep one of them, I'd keep Reid and allow him to continue teaching the young coaches on this staff. There's no reason he couldn't train up someone like Nagy to be his replacement. Those dividends will come not in how he learns tactics, etc... but how he learns preparation, organization and leadership. Those are the areas that Reid excels and it's where great coaches separate themselves from the Mike Martzes of the world.

carlos3652 01-09-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12671471)
That is just Way Clendler being the hater that he is.

http://www.sbnation.com/users/Clay%20Wendler/blog

I dont see one positive thing from him lol -

DJ's left nut 01-09-2017 09:32 PM

He's a miserable mother****er.

How he manages to captivate the imaginations of people on this board is beyond me. He's Skip Bayless but somehow less intelligent.

GloucesterChief 01-09-2017 09:38 PM

There really isn't anyone better that is available.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-09-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12672056)
There really isn't anyone better that is available.

A recurring theme for all things KC, it seems...

RealSNR 01-09-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12671984)
Reid is an amazing teacher and leader.

People spend too much time worrying about what a coach does from a tactical perspective when much of that heavy lifting is done by coordinators. A head coach's success/failure comes more from the tone he sets and the amount of 'buy in' he gets from his guys.

Andy Reid is revered in NFL circles by players and assistants alike. Andy Reid is an amazing head coach.

John Dorsey's a good GM but if I could only keep one of them, I'd keep Reid and allow him to continue teaching the young coaches on this staff. There's no reason he couldn't train up someone like Nagy to be his replacement. Those dividends will come not in how he learns tactics, etc... but how he learns preparation, organization and leadership. Those are the areas that Reid excels and it's where great coaches separate themselves from the Mike Martzes of the world.

Absolutely.

I know there's more than one way to skin a cat, but it makes me really wonder why Belichick is so successful. The guy I'm told has a great sense of humor when he's not in front of the media, but he's just got the personality of a ****ing fencepost. But given his coaching staffs have been picked apart year by year since he got to New England, you gotta figure he does SOMETHING to be that needed leader

OldSchool 01-10-2017 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12667091)
Ree_rum once again advocating for the Browns model of building a team. Unless SB, throw out coach and QB. Doesn't matter WHO replaces them, but they need to be replaced.

Nothing new from the QB1 club.

OldSchool 01-10-2017 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12671931)
Ideally, you keep the hot-shit GM and perform an actual SEARCH for a good HC instead of being a lazy-ass and promoting from within.
Andy, the coach who is very good at getting guys to buy-in, is not easily replaced. Andy, the game-day coach is easily replaced.

Yeah, because that went well for the 49ers right? ROFL

mszymko 01-10-2017 03:17 AM

yes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-10-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12672676)
Yeah, because that went well for the 49ers right? ROFL

I should have spelled it out for you:

Search for a TALENTED AND COMPETENT Head Coach.

Nothing new from the Smith Fellowship Of Few, as usual.

HemiEd 01-10-2017 09:07 AM

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milkman 01-11-2017 09:52 PM

I generally believe that most head coaches are only as good as the man who provides the talent, which would explain why Jack Del Rio hasn't flamed out in Oakland yet.

However, it is clear that some coaches are better than others, and while Reid makes me want to pull my hair out, (and yes, you dumbasses, I do still have a headfull), he is clearly one of those better coaches.

I am not at all concerned about losing Dorsey.

Let's just get this shit done and move on.

ShortRoundChief 01-11-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12671156)
Sheesh, does that asshole ever post anything positive about the Chiefs? How about Andy's record after a bye week?

He likes to pick arbitrary numbers out of the sky and use them, pretending they have some meaning.

Truth be told there is no correlation here. Each game is it's individual measure of how the team performed. Trying to bunch them all together and say "Reid is 1-7 against teams he has lost to by 14 points" is dumb. It ignores variables such as injuries, weather, the ebb and flow of the celestial tides that interact with a team dynamic and whether or not a player/coach was hung over.

Rasputin 01-11-2017 10:10 PM

Chiefs are knocking on Super Bowl door & hopefully bust it down but Dorsey and Reid work well together and built this thing so I don't see why either would want to leave.

I believe Andy Reid can work with anybody so Dorsey can be replaced but I don't see that he will just jump ship and go to another team.


I'd bet they both stay here not going anywhere. No way would Andy be giving up KC BBQ anyways.


Clark just has to write the checks and they will be here for another four years or longer.

MTG#10 06-22-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 12667109)
Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.


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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12667112)
Dorsey is not going anywhere.

:shake:


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