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DaneMcCloud 05-28-2017 09:10 PM

I'll be shocked if Bray enters the season at #2. Happy, because that means he's made a huge leap but shocked, nonetheless.

I wouldn't be shocked if he was cut and replaced with a journeyman, either.

jd1020 05-28-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12893012)
He presents a valid point in regards to the PI not being called. The quality of the throw SHOULD be irrelevant; the fact it isn't, is unfortunate.

You've have made several valid points as well. I just feel you're digging your heels in with this statement.

I just don't care about hoping to be bailed out by the refs on shit execution. The only reason its pass interference is because of the throw and Kelce having to stop and contort his body in an unnatural way to even attempt to make a play on the ball. And it's not like it was blatantly obvious. When I saw it happen live I wasn't even sure he got there early so why the **** should I yell at the refs for something they can't review just because they don't have the ability to pause time?

mdchiefsfan 05-28-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12893017)
I just don't care about hoping to be bailed out by the refs on shit execution. The only reason its pass interference is because of the throw and Kelce having to stop and contort his body in an unnatural way to even attempt to make a play on the ball. And it's not like it was blatantly obvious. When I saw it happen live I wasn't even sure he got there early so why the **** should I yell at the refs for something they can't review just because they don't have the ability to pause time?

Quite a valid stance as well.

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mdchiefsfan 05-28-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12893016)
I'll be shocked if Bray enters the season at #2. Happy, because that means he's made a huge leap but shocked, nonetheless.

I wouldn't be shocked if he was cut and replaced with a journeyman, either.

If Bray makes it as the #2 this season it just means, in my opinion, that they really don't want Mahomes taking snaps at all this year.

Dorsey/Reid invested in the future in this draft. Just because they don't put Mahomes upfront, before he is completely ready, doesn't mean their faith is lacking.

There are other factors that exist in this scenario, whether we want to acknowledge them, or not (all of which will be eliminated once Mahomes is 100% ready):

- Smith being userped: He has a history with this, and regardless of justification for it happening (here or there), Reid is a players coach and keeps these things in consideration. Reid has gone out of his way to let Smith know that what happened it SF isn't happening here.

- Bray most likely isn't long for this league: Let him take the lumps for Mahomes, while he builds confidence. If Smith goes down, we could be in for a rough season regardless of Mahomes or Bray starting. Let Mahomes stay focused on what is important and develop him according to plan. Most acknowledge he won't be ready until 2018. If that is what needs to be done, thank you Tyler Bray; you have earned your last 4 years' paychecks.

BlackOp 05-28-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12893003)
And in the Patriots game the refs called 3 penalties for 19 yards on the Steelers.

Blaming the refs is what losers do. You are crying conspiracy over a still frame picture of a Steelers player interfering on an underthrown ball by a fraction of a second on a non reviewable call. Excuse me if I don't join you in the witch hunt.

Being an apologist is what allows the rigging to perpetuate. They called 2-10 on NE in that same game. 5 total penalties all game. The refs were consistent. They didn't miss critical PI plays or call holding on only one team in a tight score. All the inconsistency at Arrowhead favored the Steelers.

The one observation you overlooked was that there was never an opportunity or reason to make a game altering call/no call in the final minutes. It was a blow out...and Tom Brady was winning. NFL was getting what it wanted...and practically called no penalties on them. 2-10 is essentially perfect.

jd1020 05-28-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12893061)
Being an apologist is what allows the rigging to perpetuate. They called 2-10 on NE in that same game. 5 total penalties all game. The refs were consistent. They didn't miss critical PI plays or call holding on only one team in a tight score. All the inconsistency at Arrowhead favored the Steelers.

The one observation you overlooked was that there was never an opportunity or reason to make a game altering call in the final minutes. It was a blow out...and Tom Brady was winning.

The Chiefs had 2 extra penalties called on them for a whopping 7 more yards than the Steelers but they were only consistent in the Patriots-Steelers game.

I didn't watch the Patriots-Steelers game but I'm 100% confident that the refs didn't miss a single call and were perfect. :rolleyes:

BlackOp 05-28-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12893064)
The Chiefs had 2 extra penalties called on them for a whopping 7 more yards than the Steelers but they were only consistent in the Patriots-Steelers game.

I didn't watch the Patriots-Steelers game but I'm 100% confident that the refs didn't miss a single call and were perfect. :rolleyes:

They had one PI penalty ignored in a 2 point game...and the only holding call of the second half took points off the board.

The amount of penalties isn't as important as which ones directly impact the outcome..and when they are called/arent called.

jd1020 05-28-2017 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12893068)
They had one PI penalty ignored in a 2 point game...and the only holding call of the second half took points off the board.

The amount of penalties isn't as important of which ones directly impact the outcome..and when they are called/arent called.

Ya ya. And I'm sure the NFL pushed to have the Atlanta ****ing Falcons in the SB, one of the lowest revenue teams in the league along with the Chiefs.

BlackOp 05-29-2017 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12893070)
Ya ya. And I'm sure the NFL pushed to have the Atlanta ****ing Falcons in the SB, one of the lowest revenue teams in the league along with the Chiefs.

I'm sure you must be ecstatic about the new "injury tent"...you know, where they can decide who continues to play and who doesn't..and keep it away from the prying eyes of public scrutiny.

Have a few "appointed" NFL doctors...you got yourself a racket. The Charles "phantom" concussion vs. Indy ring a bell?

Nice that all reviews, now, come from a central command in NY. One faceless entity with final say....and no identity.

NFL didnt address what every fan wants...judgment penalties being challenged. It wasn't even discussed at the owners meeting...and never will be. Its how they control point spreads...and dictate close games.

The sooner you wrap your head around that NFL was created by the Mob for skirting gambling laws...and that its grown into a billion dollar industry which is far more profitable than network deals/ticket revenue...the sooner everything will start making sense.

The whole convoluted "is it a catch..is it not a catch" is rooted in making the rules as muddy and malleable as possible. Then they have their talking heads repeat "I dont even know what a catch is anymore"....and the public eats that horseshit up...arguing among themselves.

Goodell is on record saying that 'live officials are crucial to the game"...in response to having everything being digitally reviewed. What he's essentially saying is "we need officiating errors to continue" even though there is technology available to minimize mistakes.

TLO 05-29-2017 03:07 AM

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Rasputin 05-29-2017 06:20 AM

Alex Smith has struggled so badly with Andy Reid offense and is first down challenged. Tyler Bray is just now able too get guys in the right place they belong. I don't see why Andy Reid offense is so complicated for bubble screens?

Sandy Vagina 05-29-2017 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12893106)
The sooner you wrap your head around that NFL was created by the Mob for skirting gambling laws...and that its grown into a billion dollar industry which is far more profitable than network deals/ticket revenue...the sooner everything will start making sense.

You understand that people don't WANT that shit to make sense, right?

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notorious 05-29-2017 08:18 AM

I came in expecting people to meltdown over a QB that has been a Chief for 1 MONTH, instead see this.


If you fully believe that conspiracy stuff, then you have to be on the Mahomes support train. The only way the Chiefs will win a SB is with star power getting the breaks that the NFL officials allow.

Rasputin 05-29-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12893161)
I came in expecting people to meltdown over a QB that has been a Chief for 1 MONTH, instead see this.


If you fully believe that conspiracy stuff, then you have to be on the Mahomes support train. The only way the Chiefs will win a SB is with star power getting the breaks that the NFL officials allow.

Refs in the NBA give star power the benefit and they much or can much impact the outcome of the game.

Chiefs get that kind of luxury for star power with Patrick Mahomes II then good for us.

duncan_idaho 05-29-2017 08:45 AM

Tyler Bray, not Patrick Mahomes, is the Chiefs’ No. 2 quarterback so far
 
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