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Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 03:53 AM

Holy shit. A Tiger/Sandy/Mav for the worst ****ing defensive back in football.

Now I've seen it all.

TwistedChief 11-20-2017 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13227851)
Just a good friend of the family.

And that's great. And I'm sure he's a nice kid. And I can understand why you'd get emotional reading this thread because it's personal to you.

But the rest of us are just being objective. And he objectively is not a good player right now and has been a HUGE liability for the Chiefs. Maybe you're right and he'll go on to be an All Pro CB, but there is not a talent evaluator on planet earth aside from yourself that thinks he looks like someone who will eventually be elite.

Right now he sucks.

I don't know that I've ever seen a player that has been as consistently and comically inept as Gaines.

Stop reading this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt. If he plays another down this year, it's only gonna get worse.

Flying High D 11-20-2017 06:15 AM

A good test would be when we cut him if any other team would touch him with a ten foot pole.

JohnnyHammersticks 11-20-2017 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13227452)
And I will end my thoughts about Phillip with this. The day he says im done than i will support what ever life he chooses. But until then, i will have all the faith in the world that he will be successful because that is what i believe based on his character. So if you feel i cant handle the truth so be it.

The day he says "I'm done" I will offer Kansas City up to $16 million for a ticker-tape parade, buy new text books for all children attending KC public schools, and provide hot meals for all KC-area homeless for a period of not less than 23 months.

All In 11-20-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13228248)
And that's great. And I'm sure he's a nice kid. And I can understand why you'd get emotional reading this thread because it's personal to you.

But the rest of us are just being objective. And he objectively is not a good player right now and has been a HUGE liability for the Chiefs. Maybe you're right and he'll go on to be an All Pro CB, but there is not a talent evaluator on planet earth aside from yourself that thinks he looks like someone who will eventually be elite.

Right now he sucks.

I don't know that I've ever seen a player that has been as consistently and comically inept as Gaines.

Stop reading this thread if you don't want your feelings hurt. If he plays another down this year, it's only gonna get worse.

Your right i will stop reading. Good luck with your Chiefs the rest of the way.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 02:12 PM

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ToxSocks 11-20-2017 02:14 PM

Im over trashing Gaines.

At this point i just feel bad for him. Maybe he shouldn't be playing in a largely man coverage scheme.

hometeam 11-20-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13228242)
Holy shit. A Tiger/Sandy/Mav for the worst ****ing defensive back in football.

Now I've seen it all.

This is beyond that.

This person is someone like his mom, his aunt, brother in law, etc.

BlackHelicopters 11-20-2017 02:18 PM

Gaines needs a hobby, non-football related.

Sassy Squatch 11-20-2017 02:21 PM

Can you even blame Gaines anymore? Its been so apparent for so long what his talent level is. Blame the ****wit who keeps putting him on the field.

ThaVirus 11-20-2017 02:25 PM

We need to put Mitchell back on the field. He'll get beat and draw a flag from time to time but he is absolutely a better option than Gaines.

It should be Peters at LCB, Mitchell at RCB, and Nelson in the slot with Acker first off the bench. Gaines can play garbage time snaps and special teams.

ToxSocks 11-20-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13229205)
Can you even blame Gaines anymore? Its been so apparent for so long what his talent level is. Blame the ****wit who keeps putting him on the field.

Or the asshole that thinks he can cover 1v1 with no safety over the top.....I get that Sutton likes to keep it simple and let players play, but the NFL has figured his shit out...to the point where they're literally lobin' jump balls when the Chiefs are caught in certain coverages.

It's pretty apparent that every team in the NFL knows to throw it up for grabs when you get a 1v1 with any Chiefs DB not named Peters.

Nelson has proven at this point that he's not durable. Good player, can't stay healthy.

Houston is good but not great. He doesn't take over games anymore.

Parker has been almost invisible this season. He doesn't LOOK like he's lost a step to me, but he hasn't been an impact player.

Hali is done.

Ford looks like another Jerry Attouchu....a broke dick with fantastic athleticism.

Bailey is maxed out. He only stands to get worse. He never made that "leap" and has been largely the same guy for the last 3 seasons.

Logan seems aight enough, but not a difference maker, much like Bailey.

Johnson sadly looks like he lost 5 steps.

I love me some Dirty Dan, but he's just a role player.

We need Mahomes to really pan out, because this defense won't be top 10 for awhile.

ThaVirus 11-20-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13229230)
Johnson sadly looks like he lost 5 steps.

I really hope the coaches are mulling over taking DJ's starting role.

This team just has a much better, and faster, feel with Ragland and KPL at ILB.

ToxSocks 11-20-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by All In (Post 13227452)
And I will end my thoughts about Phillip with this. The day he says im done than i will support what ever life he chooses. But until then, i will have all the faith in the world that he will be successful because that is what i believe based on his character. So if you feel i cant handle the truth so be it.


Maybe this just isn't the right scheme for Gaines. I'm sure he's a great guy and all, but he's getting wrecked out there.

No one wants to see that.

Like i said, im over bashing the guy. At this point i just hope he can go somewhere and excel, maybe a scheme that doesn't expose their corners as often as the Chiefs do.

ToxSocks 11-20-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13229240)
I really hope the coaches are mulling over taking DJ's starting role.

This team just has a much better, and faster, feel with Ragland and KPL at ILB.

Idk....those guys haven't really impressed me yet either.


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