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IowaHawkeyeChief 11-20-2017 11:30 AM

People need to think this through... Our offensive line was in shambles after week 4 and has never been right since then. We are getting closer to being healthy but still 1-2 games away from being back to week 4 if we are lucky. This is the biggest reason we are struggling... well, and our banged up defense. Anyone who compares yesterday's game to CJ Bethard playing in SF last week is also crazy. The wind yesterday effected both teams greatly. No points were scored going to the East endzone. The ball was sailing or getting crushed depending on where you were on the field. This was evidenced by both teams QB's and offense. I believe Mahommes is the future, but the Oline is in shambles and not a good time to make a switch.

gold_and_red 11-20-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13228780)
People need to think this through... Our offensive line was in shambles after week 4 and has never been right since then. We are getting closer to being healthy but still 1-2 games away from being back to week 4 if we are lucky. This is the biggest reason we are struggling... well, and our banged up defense. Anyone who compares yesterday's game to CJ Bethard playing in SF last week is also crazy. The wind yesterday effected both teams greatly. No points were scored going to the East endzone. The ball was sailing or getting crushed depending on where you were on the field. This was evidenced by both teams QB's and offense. I believe Mahommes is the future, but the Oline is in shambles and not a good time to make a switch.

OL is an issue but they look OK in pass protection. Hit a few of those long gains and it will help out the running game.

TwistedChief 11-20-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13228744)
Even the biggest haters celebrated our offense early in the year. This isn't just one bad game or a few bad games sprinkled in. This is 5 straight games where most were terrible offensive performances. And it follows a consistent theme that we can't beat zone.

The problem is, Alex lovers right now act like these bad 5 offensive games are out of the blue. They aren't. This is a lot more consistent with what our offense has looked like the last 5 years. It's just our defense isn't bailing them out anymore.

This. Nailed it. I have been very on the fence in the Alex Smith civil war for years. I was genuinely excited how he performed the first few games. But he's been a trainwreck since. "Happy feet" game manager cometh...

I do think odds are he'll perform better the remainder of the season. But we know what we've got and what he can and cannot do. Expectations have been reset to a realistic place. <Sigh>

These people actually thinking we might start Mahomes ex-injury are beyond delusional.

dls6501 11-20-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13228780)
the Oline is in shambles and not a good time to make a switch.

How is the OLine in shambles? They gave up 1 sack yesterday (which many feel wasnt their fault at all), and 2 total hurries.

That sounds to me like they did a fantastic job, not that they are "in shambles."

Ragged Robin 11-20-2017 11:43 AM

there should be an internal HC controversy, after an extra week of preparation against the worst team in the league, this is what Reid has to offer? Finally get momentum on a crucial drive and then have Kelce lob one across the field.. ****ing idiots

also, what the **** is with the horizontal passes? if one bubble screen doesn't work.. how about we do it over and over again. Truly pathetic display from the top down.

ARROW2 11-20-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 13228750)
With all due respect, this is just stupid. I wish I could find it because GoChiefs posted some clips of Alex missing a few wide open WRs yesterday. This is becoming a habit.

becoming?

ARROW2 11-20-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13228791)
This. Nailed it. I have been very on the fence in the Alex Smith civil war for years. I was genuinely excited how he performed the first few games. But he's been a trainwreck since. "Happy feet" game manager cometh...

I do think odds are he'll perform better the remainder of the season. But we know what we've got and what he can and cannot do. Expectations have been reset to a realistic place. <Sigh>

These people actually thinking we might start Mahomes ex-injury are beyond delusional.

Based on what? Delusion? You say Mahomes fans are delusional? ROFLROFLROFL

ARROW2 11-20-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 13228820)
How is the OLine in shambles? They gave up 1 sack yesterday (which many feel wasnt their fault at all), and 2 total hurries.

That sounds to me like they did a fantastic job, not that they are "in shambles."

That bullshit narrative needs to stop as well as ripping a defense that gave up 9 points in regulation.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 12:22 PM

I'm hoping ASS11 has internal bleeding.

Red Dawg 11-20-2017 12:26 PM

Smith can't do whats needed with his arm. He has done poorly since Hunts yards cooled off. He needs a top running attack to be effective. It pretty obvious. In todays game that won't cut it.

The Franchise 11-20-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13228940)
Smith can't do whats needed with his arm. He has done poorly since Hunts yards cooled off. He needs a top running attack to be effective. It pretty obvious. In todays game that won't cut it.

Smith is half the reason why he doesn't have a top running attack. Defenses don't respect him.

Chiefnj2 11-20-2017 12:35 PM

First half, Hunt had 4 carries.

Horrible wind. A QB that generally struggles with anything over 10 yards and you have your premiere back only carry the ball 4 times. Sprinkle in a few horrible cute plays and you have a recipe for disaster. If KC could have jumped out to an early lead the NYG would have folded. Missed opportunities.

Coochie liquor 11-20-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13228499)
He also watches film and sees Alex ****ing up a potential SB run. What the **** is Alexis doing that Mahomes can't? HUH?!!!

Which defense are we using to make this "SB run"? Not sure if you've noticed but there is no way this defense is a SB caliber and would get smoked by NE and Shitsburgh (again). I'm all for starting Mahomes but he's not gonna make our run D better, or our secondary not have Gaines, or make Berry come back this season.

Coogs 11-20-2017 05:28 PM

They were just discussing the Chiefs QB situation on Monday Night Countdown. Chris Mortensen just said the Chiefs play Buffalo and the Jets the next 2 weeks, with a 2 game lead, so you continue to monitor the situation, but word is Mahomes continues to look spectacular. Louis Riddick said if Smith continues to falter, this situation bears watching if Mahomes plays.

Coogs 11-20-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13228343)
The posts in this thread is the reason why a lot of you morons should never coach a football team at any level. There is no internal QB controversy. Why some of you would hope there is when it would be bad for the Chiefs I wonder... Makes me question what you think is more important what is good for the Chiefs or how you can satisfy your irrational hatred of Smitty?

Despite his struggles recently he still is pretty much top 5-10 in all major QB categories

QB Rating - 107.6 - #2
Compl % - 69.4 - #2
Yds - 2,674 - #5 Yds/Gm - 267 - #7
TDs - 18 - #6
INTs - 3 - Tied #2

He's doing fine overall. We are struggling right now on offense and he had a really bad game but you don't bench the guy and start a raw rookie over that. Reid has a good enough of an offensive mind to figure things out and get this offense/Alex 'Montana' Smith on track.

Smitty will bounce back. #GoSmittyGoChiefs

So you don't think there is any chance the players see the misses from Smith in the Coaching tapes the past 4 to 5 weeks, and see Mahomes being "spectacular" (Chris Mortensen's words, not mine) in practice and players shifting their preference to Mahomes?


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