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pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 07:14 PM

Here's the video of Mahomes beating cover 2 with a great ball to Chesson. Go to 2:28.

https://youtu.be/6ilh_Z7NEl8

Discuss Thrower 11-20-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13230028)
Here's the video of Mahomes beating cover 2 with a great ball to Chesson. Go to 2:28.

https://youtu.be/6ilh_Z7NEl8

Throwing to a nobody with nobody blocking blocking.

Not a great play, but it's definitely one Smith doesn't make.

Chiefshrink 11-20-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13228602)
Same here.

People think the gimmick plays are just Andy being crazy.

Its because he has to hide Alex's flaws.

Watch McNabb/Vick/ Garcia hell even Kolb and you'll see an entirely different offense

Well to some degree yes but even to a bigger degree is our horrific o-line rush and pass blocking. Pass blocking wasn't bad yesterday but we still can't open up any holes. When you can't run the ball it makes it that much easier to defense us and especially with a QB who has PTSD in pocket who gets happy feet if the primary is covered you can totally put the onus on AS if your the defense to beat you and your seeing the result.

Shut KH down and challenge AS to beat you. We are seeing more gimmick plays because we can't run the ball. You don't need gimmick plays hardly at all IF you are shoving the ball down the defense's throat in the run game.

You are correct about a totally different offense with McNabb/Vick/Garcia/Kolb BUT the reason is because they had very good offensive lines and could run the ball.

A shell shocked QB with a below average o-line is a recipe for losing. When you can't run the ball you are soooooo limited as an offense and become predictable.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-20-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13228572)
If Smith continues to play like he has been and Reid refuses to bench him.....then I hope they lose every ****ing game the rest of the season.

We just got embarrassed by one of the worst teams in the NFL this year. There is no guarantee that we win any more games this year.

This.


All day long this.

ARROW2 11-20-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13230063)
This.


All day long this.

Yep. Hope they lose if Smith starts. Totally fed up and I bet the players are too.

iDeaL 11-20-2017 07:56 PM

Hey guys, life long Chiefs fan. I have lurked these forums for a while but never made an account until now. I have been active on the Chiefs Reddit page, and it turns out advocating for Mahomes is very unpopular over there.. who would have thought? Figured I would make an account here so I can hang out with the cool kids. Some of you on here are pretty brutal tho so be gentle at first or use lube or something.

I've never been a Smith dickrider but tried to give him the benefit of the doubt pretty much the whole time he has been a Chief up until now. With the people who ride or die with him its never his fault and always this, that, or the third excuse that he doesn't get it done. Poor line play, no WRs, the wind, poor play calling, poor coaching, or anything else under the sun to deflect blame. I'm all aboard the Mahomes train now. I was at the game this Sunday and got to witness Smith shit the bed in real time and it was the last straw for me. It was excruciating. Bottom line is a QB is rarely ever going to have a perfect or ideal situation around him, and while Smith is not the worst, he is one of those guys that would literally need everything around him to be absolutely perfect and have a #1 defense on the other side of the ball if he was ever going to win anything, sort of like a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson type. Also, I think a lot of the play calling that people harp on is a result of the way the offense is run to live within Smith's limited skill set. We shouldn't HAVE to be running gimmick plays to try and make things happen.

Look, nothing against Smith personally, he seems like a great person and I do appreciate his contributions to helping get us out of the mess we were in prior to 2013, but this is a business and when its time, its time. Everyone always mentions what a "true professional" he is, so he should understand, right? He will likely be a starter somewhere else after KC. He'll get another shot, but we moved up to draft the kid for a reason.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 07:57 PM

Welcome to CP, iDeal

You're probably going to absolutely love and hate this place simultaneously for a long time.

KChiefs1 11-20-2017 07:58 PM

I agree with the Brit Chief!

https://youtu.be/PG9GtSpBuNY

Red Dawg 11-20-2017 07:59 PM

Everyone thinks that starting Mahomes means we are mailing it in. I think keeping Smith at QB is doing the same. Andy will not change QBs. He respects Smith and will let him play out his last KC season
.

KCrockaholic 11-20-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by iDeaL (Post 13230122)
Hey guys, life long Chiefs fan. I have lurked these forums for a while but never made an account until now. I have been active on the Chiefs Reddit page, and it turns out advocating for Mahomes is very unpopular over there.. who would have thought? Figured I would make an account here so I can hang out with the cool kids. Some of you on here are pretty brutal tho so be gentle at first or use lube or something.

I've never been a Smith dickrider but tried to give him the benefit of the doubt pretty much the whole time he has been a Chief up until now. With the people who ride or die with him its never his fault and always this, that, or the third excuse that he doesn't get it done. Poor line play, no WRs, the wind, poor play calling, poor coaching, or anything else under the sun to deflect blame. I'm all aboard the Mahomes train now. I was at the game this Sunday and got to witness Smith shit the bed in real time and it was the last straw for me. It was excruciating. Bottom line is a QB is rarely ever going to have a perfect or ideal situation around him, and while Smith is not the worst, he is one of those guys that would literally need everything around him to be absolutely perfect and have a #1 defense on the other side of the ball if he was ever going to win anything, sort of like a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson type. Also, I think a lot of the play calling that people harp on is a result of the way the offense is run to live within Smith's limited skill set. We shouldn't HAVE to be running gimmick plays to try and make things happen.

Look, nothing against Smith personally, he seems like a great person and I do appreciate his contributions to helping get us out of the mess we were in prior to 2013, but this is a business and when its time, its time. Everyone always mentions what a "true professional" he is, so he should understand, right? He will likely be a starter somewhere else after KC. He'll get another shot, but we moved up to draft the kid for a reason.

Welcome to the board. You'll like it here sometimes.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-20-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13230130)
Everyone thinks that starting Mahomes means we are mailing it in. I think keeping Smith at QB is doing the same. Andy will not change QBs. He respects Smith and will let him play out his last KC season
.

Exactly. I view it more as a Smith/Kaepernick situation.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iDeaL (Post 13230122)
I have been active on the Chiefs Reddit page, and it turns out advocating for Mahomes is very unpopular over there.. who would have thought?

Those guys are dumb homers.

Welcome to THE place on the internet for Chiefs talk that actually tells it like it is.

MMXcalibur 11-20-2017 08:10 PM

My body is ready for Mahomes. We all know how this ends with Alex in the playoffs.
I've sat through enough of those offensive shitshows for a lifetime.

iDeaL 11-20-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13230133)
Welcome to the board. You'll like it here sometimes.

Sometimes is good enough for me. Reminds me of how I like being a Chiefs fan sometimes.

iDeaL 11-20-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13230137)
Those guys are dumb homers.

Welcome to THE place on the internet for Chiefs talk that actually tells it like it is.

I would be willing to bet that those very same people would forget all about Smith if PMII came in and lit it up.. Then they would say they were for it the whole time.. ROFL


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