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Chief Roundup 07-20-2018 09:22 PM

NFL, NFLPA announce 'standstill' on anthem rules after Dolphins report

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...l-anthem-rules

With the Miami Dolphins facing backlash after submitting required paperwork to the NFL that included potential disciplinary measures for player protests during the national anthem, the league has decided to hit pause on its new policy, sources told ESPN.

The league and the NFL Players Association issued a joint statement Thursday that said "no new rules relating to the anthem will be issued or enforced for the next several weeks" while both sides continue to hold discussions to figure out how to move forward.

"The NFL and NFLPA, through recent discussions, have been working on a resolution to the anthem issue," the joint statement said. "In order to allow this constructive dialogue to continue, we have come to a standstill agreement on the NFLPA's grievance and on the NFL's anthem policy.

"The NFL and NFLPA reflect the great values of America, which are repeatedly demonstrated by the many players doing extraordinary work in communities across our country to promote equality, fairness and justice. Our shared focus will remain on finding a solution to the anthem issue through mutual, good faith commitments, outside of litigation."

The NFL decided in May that teams would be fined if players didn't stand during the national anthem while on the field. The rule forbids players from sitting or taking a knee if they are on the field or sideline during the anthem but allows them to stay in the locker room if they wish. The league left the punishment of players up to the teams.

The policy was challenged this month in a grievance by the players' union.

Sources told ESPN's Dan Graziano that the NFL and NFLPA had been prepared to issue the standstill agreement Friday but moved up the announcement because of the Dolphins story that broke earlier Thursday from The Associated Press.

According to the AP report, the Dolphins could impose discipline of up to a four-game suspension for any player who protested during the anthem. The report cited a nine-page document the Dolphins filed with the NFL that overviewed the team's overarching disciplinary policies.

However, multiple sources with the Dolphins and the NFL told ESPN that the Dolphins' submission of their potential disciplinary policies was merely part of an annual filing required of every team before the start of training camp. One Dolphins source said the team has not discussed -- and doesn't expect to impose -- suspensions for protesting during the anthem.

Instead, one Dolphins source said the team merely filed the paperwork required by the league, stating potential discipline, with the expectation that it could later discuss and decide exactly what type of discipline, if any, would be imposed on players if they violated a rule that was newly instituted in May by the NFL.

"We were asked to submit a form to the NFL on our overall discipline policy prior to the start of the rookie report date," Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said in a statement on Friday. "The one line sentence related to the national anthem was a placeholder as we haven't made a decision on what we would do, if anything, at that point. I'm pleased that the NFL and NFLPA are taking a pause to figure out a resolution on this issue."

The league's 31 other teams also would need to file similar paperwork, and in the wake of Thursday's report about the Dolphins, the NFL was up against another PR mess: With teams about to report to camp, the focus would turn toward individual team filings to see how respective organizations would impose discipline on players protesting during the anthem.

The joint statement will allow the focus to remain on football and provide time for a more clear plan, according to league sources.

The Baltimore Ravens were the first team to report Wednesday and practice Thursday, and they did not distribute any new specific policy and had no plans to, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

RunKC 07-20-2018 09:22 PM

Has Mr. Casey done anything of note to support this cause in the offseason?

Chief Roundup 07-20-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 13637511)
No, I cancelled my season tickets when the Chiefs made a political stand by giving Peters away for peanuts.

ROFL we got more than if we let him walk after this season. We got rid of a cancer on the team. No team wanted him very much hence the lack of POSSIBLE interest and compensation.

POND_OF_RED 07-20-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13637518)
Has Mr. Casey done anything of note to support this cause in the offseason?

Not that you’re looking for a real answer, but yes he started the Casey Fund which helps inmates readjust to life outside of prison and helps inner-city youth who are at risk of getting involved in crime. His wife is also a public defender which is probably another main reason this discussion is very meaningful to him and why he won’t just lie down.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-21-2018 05:07 AM

Look at me & just ignore it. Solution waits patiently

ILChief 07-21-2018 08:48 AM

Let this issue die. I don’t care if they all stand, all kneel, all stay in the locker room, or if the anthem isn’t played at all. I’m just so sick of this crap

BWillie 07-21-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13637750)
Let this issue die. I don’t care if they all stand, all kneel, all stay in the locker room, or if the anthem isn’t played at all. I’m just so sick of this crap

This is the correct answer.

JakeF 07-21-2018 11:47 AM

The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/...12/trumpex.jpg

MMXcalibur 07-21-2018 12:18 PM

I'm done with this shit.

I'm done with Kaepernick trying to wiggle his way back into a league he made an ass out of on their own stage.

I'm done with Donnie Dumbass needing to weigh in on the subject to appeal to his gaggle of red-hatted reeruns.

I'm done with the NFL not being able to find a competent solution to this mess and repeatedly punching themselves in the dick.

Just go play some goddamn football.

T-post Tom 07-21-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13637521)
ROFL we got more than if we let him walk after this season. We got rid of a cancer on the team. No team wanted him very much hence the lack of POSSIBLE interest and compensation.

How long before his socks go missing in LA?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQJsVMNVoAAyGxP.jpg

displacedinMN 07-21-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13637279)
The NBA which is at least 80% black, has had a rule in place since the 1980's requiring that players and coaches stand for the National Anthem.

There are countless other avenues for NFL players to express their support for social justice causes... why mess with the National Anthem?

This.. This is why I have no sympathy for NFL players. And cannot understand why this discussion is even happening. If you do not like it, you have the right to stay in the locker room.

What are the policies in MLB and Hockey?

Flying High D 07-21-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13638006)
This.. This is why I have no sympathy for NFL players. And cannot understand why this discussion is even happening. If you do not like it, you have the right to stay in the locker room.

What are the policies in MLB and Hockey?

A lot of MLB players are from countries that have social injustices. If a player on their team didn’t respect the national anthem I think a player from one of those countries would blow a gasket.

Marcellus 07-21-2018 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13635028)
These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.


Solid post but this has been brought up about 1,000X already and the usual suspects still show up and defend this nonsense.

Social Injustice does not exist, nor does most of what they are protesting or as you pointed out, there would be specific discussions to be had instead of just SJW buzzwords.

Marcellus 07-21-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13637938)
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/...12/trumpex.jpg

How can you possibly be so ****ing stupid to claim Trump started this? Are you seriously that ****ing dumb?

jdubya 07-21-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13637938)
The man that started all of this. He is listening to the anthem without showing the proper respect. He ended up being elected president by the same people demanding players get fired for kneeling.

http://www.auroracup.com/wp-content/...12/trumpex.jpg

Um........Trump didn`t "start" any of this.:rolleyes:


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