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He does do a nice job of timing his challenges, though. You can see most of those PBUs on highlight vids and he's doing a good job of coming around guys without coming through them and drawing flags. I mean for as much shit as this CB corps is taking (even with Claiborne), Fuller, Breeland, Ward and Claiborne is actually pretty damn good. It's not the Chargers or anything, but even the Chargers are looking iffy at CB2 with Michael Davis and Trevor Williams battling for that job. Everyone sucks off their defensive backfield every chance they get and that pair has no more reason for optimism than the pair we're likely to see battling for that spot. This CB group is....fine. It's not elite but it's not the barren wasteland it's being portrayed as either. If it's the weakest link on this team (presuming reasonable health and we're not starting Fields/Fenton/Wade at some point), we'll win 14 games or more. |
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How the hell many pass breakups do you think these guys get? |
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I think we have a better trio and more depth than we did last year. With the safeties they have behind them, it should be enough. |
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Pretty impressive that we’ve made such an improvement in one offseason after having arguably the worst group in the league last year. |
However you feel about Claiborne and Breeland they're both better than Nelson
We're actually going to have a corner that's 4th on the depth chart that's better than our starter last year. |
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It is what it is though. There’s a reason Nelson got paid. He’s not nearly as bad as people make him out to be in comparison to the rest of the NFL’s list of corners. |
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Those PI calls in the Atlanta/Denver game were ridiculous. QBs are going to throw it up there against him even more than last year. |
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If you're at 50, you're dogshit. If you're at 60, you're not good, but you're tolerable. You shouldn't be starting but you can justify a roster spot for that guy. An average starting caliber player should probably be at 65 or so and if you're anything below 70, you're probably starting out of necessity rather than desire. His PFF score doesn't inspire a ton of confidence but it also doesn't matter - the guy's not here to save the season. He's here to see if Spags can make him better than the worst CB presently on the probably 53 man. That isn't a terribly high bar and he can absolutely be a contributor. |
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I don't have a problem with a Steven Nelson-esque player in our 4th spot. |
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Mathieu Clark Thornhill Okafor Ogbah Saunders Lee Wilson Claiborne I'm sure there's another guy or two in there that I'm missing but that's a ton of guys with solid floors and decent ceilings to boot. In real time it seemed underwhelming but when you look at the body of work and the number of contributors that have been added to that side of the ball, expecting a real step forward suddenly becomes pretty reasonable. |
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Y'all just never accepted the fact that Nelson was easily an average NFL starter and in all likelihood significantly better than that. Some folks haven't adjusted to the new normal in this league. But I say all that to circle back to where I've been a dozen times here - the problem with that defensive backfield was a black hole at CB2 (Scandrick) that was always available when the QB needed it and a complete lack of safety help. If Breeland can be simply as good as Nelson and Ward can prove to be an average CB2 while the safeties stay healthy, this unit will be light years improved. |
I do like that since they didn't get any in the draft they went the cheap route. I think that's actually smart.
Would much rather do that than overpay for someone that's maybe marginally better. |
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