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PAChiefsGuy 02-20-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805962)
I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

Yeah it's great. Good food. Lots of things to do and places to visit. Very safe and lots of good people to hang out with. Nice showers with cold water.

You should give it a shot sometime man. You don't know what you are missing.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 07:27 PM

Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

PAChiefsGuy 02-20-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

Mostly blacks and Hispanics getting the long sentences too.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14805970)
I've watched a lot of documentaries on prison life. The guys spending 10-20 years behind bars seem to enjoy it. At least that's the front they put on when they're talking to the camera.

I've also seen guys who basically got locked up at age 13 or 14, got out when they were 18, re-offended and are back in for another 10-15 years. Being locked up is all they've ever really known.

Most of those shows are bullshit. The people they interview are the people I hate most in prison, idiots who think they are cool because they're in prison or rats.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

I disagree with most of this post. Pretty uneducated to be honest.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14805958)
Do people actually make alcohol in prison toilets?

On a side note - do you mind the prison questions? I don't want to bring up negative memories. I'm just genuinely curious about prison life.

Maybe they do in some prisons, I've never seen it. I've seen it made in trash bags and butter containers stolen from the kitchen. Also peanut butter jars and other various bottle type things. Mostly trash bags though in my experience.

I don't mind the prison questions. I hate that place but I don't really mind talking about anything in life. I'm a pretty open dude, when I shut up and keep things in I start falling apart generally.


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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805962)
I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

It's not fun.

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 14805967)
Not even AIC?

They might be considered grunge I don't know. And I guess they have like two good songs.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14806019)
It's not fun.

Yeah I've read the Google reviews on a few of them and most aren't very positive.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 08:00 PM

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This one doesn't sound too bad though

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14806011)
I disagree with most of this post. Pretty uneducated to be honest.

Fine. Youre one guy. You went to prison. Doesn't make you a critical authority about govts origins, inner workings and intent. Did people deserve longe sentence over weed or other drugs? Of course not. Govt just takes advantage of how stupid and compliant the lazy citizens are to authority. Most of what the legal system is allowed to do is completely unnecessary. But the wealthy need to exercise authority to keep the common man at bay.


Not one time in my life have police ever been helpful or necessary. And they are obviously useless in bad neighborhoods. they are just tax collectors with guns. They beat up people for verbally disagreeing with them. Judges tell you, you are in contempt for asking questions. The rule of law is one big elitist scam.

Holladay 02-20-2020 08:46 PM

I have a close friend who went to prison for child rape. He didn't and took the "fall" for some "friends" of his at the time. He was 18. He wasn't a model citizen in his youth and probably would have ended up in jail at some point. But not for 15 years.

His points are, you get accustomed to it. That becomes normal life. You can do well, per se (still in jail) and understand the system and work it to your advantage. You get comfortable like Brooks.

When he got out, he really was tempted to repeat to go back. What kept him clean was the lifers inside that have no chance at a real life anymore. He now had a chance at a real life and if he screwed up and landed back in, they would think "what a piss ant, you had another chance but blew it".

He didn't want to go back and face it.

He has done well. He has a tough row to hoe but he is appreciative and works many jobs to make ends meet with his family.

He got screwed in life with one decision at 18...for his "friends".

Ubeja Vontell 02-20-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.


Dude, you are so wrong it's comical.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14806126)
Dude, you are so wrong it's comical.

You also have no understanding about govts intentions to/for controlling the populous. You simply think there's 2 sides to a debate and of course govt would never lie to you, right?

You worship the State.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay (Post 14806114)
I have a close friend who went to prison for child rape. He didn't and took the "fall" for some "friends" of his at the time. He was 18. He wasn't a model citizen in his youth and probably would have ended up in jail at some point. But not for 15 years.

His points are, you get accustomed to it. That becomes normal life. You can do well, per se (still in jail) and understand the system and work it to your advantage. You get comfortable like Brooks.

When he got out, he really was tempted to repeat to go back. What kept him clean was the lifers inside that have no chance at a real life anymore. He now had a chance at a real life and if he screwed up and landed back in, they would think "what a piss ant, you had another chance but blew it".

He didn't want to go back and face it.

He has done well. He has a tough row to hoe but he is appreciative and works many jobs to make ends meet with his family.

He got screwed in life with one decision at 18...for his "friends".

And now he's a free range slave. A tax slave.

Ubeja Vontell 02-20-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14806138)
You also have no understanding about govts intentions to/for controlling the populous. You simply think there's 2 sides to a debate and of course govt would never lie to you, right?

You worship the State.

Dude, your level of ...Duh!....belongs in prison, no clue at all, none!

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14806079)
Fine. Youre one guy. You went to prison. Doesn't make you a critical authority about govts origins, inner workings and intent. Did people deserve longe sentence over weed or other drugs? Of course not. Govt just takes advantage of how stupid and compliant the lazy citizens are to authority. Most of what the legal system is allowed to do is completely unnecessary. But the wealthy need to exercise authority to keep the common man at bay.


Not one time in my life have police ever been helpful or necessary. And they are obviously useless in bad neighborhoods. they are just tax collectors with guns. They beat up people for verbally disagreeing with them. Judges tell you, you are in contempt for asking questions. The rule of law is one big elitist scam.

You're one guy who has never been helped by the police. I know a lot of people that have been helped by the police. In bad neighborhoods. You're right about some of the drug sentencing. There seems to be quite a few corrupt laws designed to keep a certain sect of the population down.

You're wrong about the free labor thing. At least in Missouri and Kansas State penitentiaries.


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