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DJ's left nut 12-02-2021 04:53 PM

Here's my post from way back when on the subject -- I used Correa as an example and suggested a 12/$250 deal that would've taken him through his arb years plus 8 years of FA.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=726

And in the end he bet on himself and he'll probably beat that figure - but ultimately deals similar to those exist on the marketplace for players willing to pursue them. We seem them annually. Oh, and I projected him making $50 million in his pre-FA years - he made $20 million. So he'd need to beat 8/$230 or almost $30 million/yr. Combine that figure with the guaranteed element of it (so the 'stros can expect a discount by guaranteeing money 4 years before he'd otherwise get it) and man, that's REALLY close to what he could've reasonably been expected to seek. I had it damn near on the nose 4 years ago. And this isn't my job, fellas. The players and owners know what's reasonable. Many just choose not to pursue it.

Correa chose this route. As have many other players before him. Just as many others have gone the alternate route.

But it's like people complaining about high interest rates on credit cards. Of course they're high - this is unsecured debt. The risks CC companies take on is enormous many cases. Meanwhile mortgage and/or vehicle debt is often quite reasonable because it's secured.

MLB contracts with their guaranteed money are the sports equivalent of unsecured debt. If it goes bad - you're just boned. You're stuck with it. So yeah, teams are going to factor that in to what they're willing to pay. Especially to players that are less established.

suzzer99 12-02-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15987025)
Mike Trout's the best player in a generation and he's never led a single post-season inning.

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Mama Hip Rockets 12-02-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15986750)
You mean the NFL where only 6 franchises have made the Super Bowl from the AFC since 2003?

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 15986824)
I could be wrong but I think that has mostly to do with the TV deal. Bally sports isn’t on any TV or streaming services hardly at all so this numbers are down. I would watch the royals every night before but couldn’t this year and I know many other teams have the same contract with Bally Sports. The Royals even in the bad years were smashing TV viewing in the area.

Edit - it mentions Bally but from what I’ve seen online that’s the biggest compliant from fans.

Yeah, I doubt those numbers are taking illegal streaming into consideration. Unfortunately, that's what a lot of fans had to resort to last year due to the terrible Bally deal.

lewdog 12-02-2021 06:13 PM

I wouldn’t watch soccer with a gun to my head. **** that sport and the pussies that play it.

Baseball will be fine by season start.

Chiefspants 12-02-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 15987034)
To this day, it’s what I love about the game.

I wish baseball would embrace this aspect of the game. Even in its heyday, regular season games featured fans coming off of work and taking a load off.

Hell, it's how I got my college friends to love baseball. They were skeptical (they didn't enjoy watching it on TV), but in 2013 I took them to games at the K and they loved the atmosphere and how laid back it was. They ended up getting on the Royals train at the perfect time, too.

Chief Pagan 12-02-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D.A.P. (Post 15986055)
Gun to your head: must watch one. Golf, soccer, baseball.

I pull out my phone and secretly watch hockey.

FloridaMan88 12-02-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987155)
Baseball will be fine by season start.

Yeah maybe they'll find a way to not have their World Series games get eclipsed by NFL preseason games, in terms of total TV viewers/ratings.

lewdog 12-02-2021 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15987235)
Yeah maybe they'll find a way to not have their World Series games get eclipsed by NFL preseason games, in terms of total TV viewers/ratings.

Something has to be second to the NFL.

And yes, it’s MLB not NBA or NHL.

Deberg_1990 12-02-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987260)
Something has to be second to the NFL.

And yes, it’s MLB not NBA or NHL.

MLS in 10 years

Chiefspants 12-02-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15987271)
MLS in 10 years

I heard this when I was 19 at KU, too, when my friends were driving up to see the newly named KC Sporting.

I am now 29.

lewdog 12-02-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15987271)
MLS in 10 years

Make a thread when it happens so I can neg rep your ass!!!

lcarus 12-02-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 15986040)
MLBPA ruined baseball.

The strike of 1994 nearly killed the game.

I was a big baseball fan until that. I was really enjoying that Royals team at the time. After that. I only tuned in for the Royals 14 and 15 runs.

Bearcat 12-02-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987260)
Something has to be second to the NFL.

And yes, it’s MLB not NBA or NHL.

And popularity kills things. Outside of going out of business, no one should want their favorite things to be wildly popular.

It's not high school, keep the **** away from my hockey before that's ruined, too. And stay off my lawn.

Deberg_1990 12-02-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15987291)
I heard this when I was 19 at KU, too, when my friends were driving up to see the newly named KC Sporting.

I am now 29.

In the 70s the top 3 U.S. sports were:

MLB
boxing
Horse racing



Times change

Chiefspants 12-02-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15987386)
In the 70s the top 3 U.S. sports were:

MLB
boxing
Horse racing



Times change

Football already eclipsed baseball in the 1970's.


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