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wachashi 12-17-2021 11:41 AM

Staley seems alright, I guess. I think we'll know more after the season is over.

He's got several things working in his favor in this job. Most importantly, a really talented young QB with some nice offensive weapons. The Chargers roster is in good shape overall.

I'm not ready to crown the guy. His defense really isn't all that great.

But he is young, uses analytics, chews gum on the sideline, and says the right things in press conferences, so maybe he'll be around for a while.

Wallcrawler 12-17-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16017695)
I'll just say the same thing I said in the gamethread.

Had he taken every FG available to him on 4th down (and all of them were good) he'd have scored 15 points. As it stood, he scored 7. So a net loss of 8. That said, one of those 'net losses' was actually a conversion and then his idiot RB tried to extend from the 4 and lost a fumble at the 1. I have a hard time putting that one on him. Another required that Parnham scramble his eggs and lose a football that he had caught.

So even WITH the other two stops included, Staley could've/should've been at 21 points vs. 15.

It didn't work out - shit happens and the other guys get paid to play as well. But the logic behind it was extremely strong, IMO. Those are plays that his guys usually make. Tonight they didn't.

I hope he takes every FG he can if we face them again in the post-season and deep down I think the rest of you guys do as well. The last thing I want is a coach that is treating 3rd down like 2nd down every time he gets on our half of the field. The pressure that puts on the defense is immense and over time they WILL crack. Hell, last night ours DID. We just won the coin toss.

When we stop them on 4th down surrendering 0 points, I hope he continues to go for it. It's unfathomably stupid.

This, without 3 of our best defenders.

I will gladly welcome this butt ****ing moron completely ignoring a way to put points on the board and giving us the chance to hold them to zero, and negatively affecting his players by watching all the work they put in, get NOTHING in return.

Do all the calculations you like. The guy left free points on the field to gamble.

In doing these gambles, he lost one of his players, and then he lost the game.

Wins are wins, whether by 1, or by 40.

To see a Chiefs team that outside of the Raider demolitions, was winning games with scores well under 30 points, hell, some under 20 points, and you can see now in the game that your defense is causing some major problems for them, to still think that you need 7 points every time because 3 isn't good enough, that's just dumb football.

Get your nose out of the math book, pay attention to what is happening in front of you, and call the game accordingly, and you're likely in first place in the afc west.

Instead, you're the jackass that wanted to gamble and lost repeatedly, never learning anything. Chasing points rarely ends well.

This is the type of gambler that comes out of the casino wearing a barrel because he didn't have sense enough not to keep gambling.

BigCatDaddy 12-17-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16017676)
I think we were pretty sure about Andy after 13 games.

Wut?

Red Dawg 12-17-2021 12:07 PM

He's a little weasel. He built his name on defense and his defense sycks.

RealSNR 12-17-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16017619)
He's the best coach the Chargers have had, by FAR, since Marty.

And he's going to be an unholy pain in the ass for this team for the next decade. With only 1 bye every year going forward, having a soft division is going to be critical to getting the bye week. And unfortunately the West is going to have 2 of the 3/4 best QB/Coach combinations in the NFL going forward.

Considering both he and Turner had loaded teams with franchise QBs, I'll only grant you this until I see Staley take the Chargers to an AFC Championship game like Turner did.

Staley is promising, sure, and seems to have great communication skills, but so did Anthony Lynn. The pressures of the head coaching world mount up when you become more and more of an executive, and some guys can handle that. Others can't. It's why so many new coaches get off to fast starts or look great in their first year only to slowly droop back down to mediocrity over time.

Gary Cooper 12-17-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16017710)
Think of these things this way.


As you were sitting there watching your team play against it, what did you want the Chargers to do? I know I was saying "please kick the ****ing fg and don't go for it".

Every fan would unless you're rooting for the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens.

digger 12-17-2021 12:36 PM

Can we get him the 10 year ala John Gruden?

The Bad Guy 12-17-2021 12:40 PM

My assessment is that he sucks. He gets praise because he gives solid quotes to the media and seems like a nice guy.

He has a stud QB and for being a defensive guy, his defense sucks and sucks bad. He puts his team in constantly bad position. Doug Pederson once upon a time was viewed as a maverick coach who pushed the envelope. He won a ring and ended up unemployed. Staley's shine will be completely off by the middle of next season.

scho63 12-17-2021 12:52 PM

Your assessment of Brandon Staley?

He ain't no Andy Reid!

DaFace 12-17-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16017685)
Yea umm Andy wasn’t a first time HC…

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16017686)
After 13 games in Philly?

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16017688)
LOL - you can't be serious with that

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16017831)
Wut?

I was referring to 13 games with the Chiefs. Sure, he had a track record, but it's not hard to recognize when a team is responding to the coaching philosophy.

BigCatDaddy 12-17-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16018003)
I was referring to 13 games with the Chiefs.

No you are comparing apples to oranges..got it.

jerryaldini 12-17-2021 01:21 PM

Wonder what the conversion rate is on 4th down from the 5. 5 yards at goal line seems pretty low percentage. That's the one I thought was too aggressive, and sorta arrogant.

ChiTown 12-17-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16018003)
I was referring to 13 games with the Chiefs. Sure, he had a track record, but it's not hard to recognize when a team is responding to the coaching philosophy.

Well, one guy had been to the NFC CG 4x's and been to a SB and the other guy is 8-6 in his career, but ok.....

staylor26 12-17-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16018003)
I was referring to 13 games with the Chiefs. Sure, he had a track record, but it's not hard to recognize when a team is responding to the coaching philosophy.

It’s still a dumb ****ing comparison…

DaFace 12-17-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16018027)
It’s still a dumb ****ing comparison…

Are you under the impression that everyone was universally happy when Andy came here? Granted, people here like to bitch about anything, but it was hardly a universally-praised decision.


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