Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16331768)

I must have completely deleted Kareem Hunt from my memory.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16331754)

30 years old next season - he's probably getting near washed in his own right.

But as I said when we let him walk - the need to dump on Williams to justify the pick of CEH was bothersome to me. Williams was a very good player here who provided an element that was sorely needed last season - speed to the edge and broken field running.

I'm not sure he'd STILL be an upgrade over anybody we have here, but he would've been last year, yes.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16331724)

Which still wouldn't be true. Mckinon was good in the post season but bad like a whole combined 200 yards in the regular + post season

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16331903)

Oh yeah, we are of one mind on this. I liked Damien Williams a lot. I was one pointing to his stats when Kareem was out that we wouldn't have that big of a drop off. And in some games - mostly the super bowl - we didn't.

But we went up to the mountains for Memorial Day and ended up watching a bunch of old Chiefs games on youtube. Man... Williams was far better than CEH, and Hunt was far better than Williams.

It's sad that we invested a first round pick in RB and it's still a weakness. Love the strategy, hate the execution.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16331912)

He obviously wasn't picking up the offense in the RS and not getting the touches because of it.

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 16332002)

I thought maybe they might've been sandbagging him a bit based in his injury history and some of Andy's past tendencies.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 16332020)

Yes I am sure a little of that too.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16331406)

Agreed.

Seems like it's him vs. Pacheco for the final RB slot and McKinnon was EASILY the best pure RB we had last year. He also demonstrated good pass-catching skills and solid Pass pro.

Durability is his biggest issue and we have the RB depth to deal with that.

And he's the kind of guy who is just as likely to get a soft-tissue hammy pull in practice as he is to blow his ACL on his 28th carry of a game. So when he's healthy, ride him. I'm not sure workload even matters with a guy like him.

So smoke it when you got it. I'd give Jones some 1st down work I guess, but 2nd and 3rd downs would be McKinnon until he breaks.

I'm just writing CEH off until he proves me wrong. He got EXCEPTIONAL run-blocking last year when you look up the 'expected YPC' figures. And he didn't even manage to get JAG level returns on it. He got less than his expected yards per carry. That's just damn rough.

If he takes the job back - bully. But I'm done counting on him for anything unless/until he forces my hand.

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16332066)

Him vs Pacheco? Er no. Him versus Gore more like. Pacheco has been impressing in camp according to Pete Sweeney plus he's the best blocker and special teams player in the RB room with another added bonus of being by far the fastest too.