Have we entered another dimension? I always thought your football takes were actually pretty good but you seem to be suggesting here that calling for first and second round picks to make the team is a commendable accomplishment.

The other day you posted this:
Megatron: I called for the sun to rise in the East this morning and I’m doubling down and saying it’s gonna set in the West. Bet me I’m wrong?

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A little surprising that Sony Michel was released today. I’m sure someone will pick him up.

I guess. I've been watching the NFL for about 40 years, so I've seen plenty of 1st and 2nd rounders not make it across the league.

Plus, there was a lot of chaff right here on CP about whether Karlaftis was really going to make it/was even worthy of a first-round pick. Though at 30(think he went at 30?), that's basically a high 2nd rounder, imo. Shit like, 'not bendy enough,' or 'he only got 4 sacks last year,' or whatever. As I recall I made the suggestion on draft day that he could work on his 'bend,' but look at how he played the game, which is to say he could read and react at a very high level, and he was used to playing from different spots, not just DE. In short, he's a very cerebral player, not just a really strong bull-rusher.

And early on McDuffie got some crap here as well, as I recall. Something about not being fast enough. Oh, and his arms were too short, lol.

It's all good though. I've been playing the Devil's advocate and/or soft troll since mid-season last year, and i'll probably keep it up this year, so I expect to get some shit this season.:thumb:

"Not making it" implies nothing about whether they fail to make the roster in their first season.

I'm not sure there's a single first round pick in this century who was cut in their first preseason.

Last I could find was Dimitris Underwood with the Vikings in 1999 and the guy had mental health issues.

Oh hell, I couldn't remember one off-hand that got cut before the end of preseason. I meant never started/maybe benched by mid-season, that sort of thing. Or even earlier. Seen lots of high picks just shit the bed basically from Day 1. Lot of guys that probably should've never been picked in the first three rounds, much less the first.

But getting back to the point, there was plenty of talk about Skyy not being tall enough, fast enough, didn't play for a big school, etc. from the get-go. Ditto McDuffie for many of the same reasons. For myself, I saw a lot of a young Tyrann Mathieu in McDuffie. Especially how smooth his hips are.

And a lot of crap about how Karlaftis wasn't going to translate to the NFL, whether it was about his lack of 'bendiness,' lack of speed, and if I remember correctly there was some talk about how he wasn't going to be able to make it because his arms were too short. Which, if I remember correctly, he's about an inch short of the NFL average, which is to say, who frikking cares?

Sure, he didn't get a lot of big numbers in college, and yeah, he's not the fastest or bendiest guy, but mentally he played at a pretty high level, and his core strength is off the charts. probably a lot of that is due to his time in water-polo, and why he can keep coming at full speed for as long as he can. Regardless, he has both a ton of lower body strength and stamina that should give him an edge throughout his career. A lot of people are going to underestimate him this season, because they just aren't going to understand how strong he is through his back/abs and lower body.

He actually restructured his contract today to pay around $16MM with incentives and roster bonuses and it makes him a free agent next year.

Niang is injured so writing him off right now would be stupid when he still has three years of low pay on his contract. Also those folks writing off Kinnard need to relax.. he was actually decent against the packers according chiefs media on twitter who watched the film so again letting a young guy with upside go would be naive. I highly doubt Prince gets snapped up if released and hopefully he can go back on the practice squad if needed.

Ah, I see the problem. In this thread I said they’ll make it. In the separate threads I said they’d all be starters by mid-season.

I can’t finish this post right now. But I get it now. Sorry for the confusion

I still don't get Winchester taking up a roster spot just for long snapping. Let Kelce do it and he can catch passes from out punter.

You act like the keeping a dedicated long snapper is something only the Chiefs are doing right now. And that it's some real novelty.

If you want to talk about novelty items, look to Chris Lammons.

Long snapping isn't as easy as it looks. And if it's remotely subpar, you're getting punts blocked left and right. And this is a guy who is being used multiple times each game. It's not your 6th CB who is a gunner on ST.

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This is so much worse than your backup QB thoughts it is not even funny.

They replayed the Iowa vs. Kentucky Bowl game this weekend. I watched Kinnard, he struggled. Iowa had 8 sacks that game. I was surprised, I don't think anyone picks him up and he will be on the practice squad.

Hog doesn’t actually watch football. He is busy, you know doing stuff like jerking off hogs.

But I approve, because bacon is important.

What team is going to watch Kannards preseason tape and put them on their 53? I think he easily makes the practice squad.