Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16592034)

And CEH doesn't do anything. I'll take the guy who doesn't do anything but run at this point.

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 16592127)

He's a disgrace. If he wins a Super Bowl he should give up his ring (unless he plays a key part which I doubt because he is SHITE). He is so bad that I wish he plays poorly for us now so there is no hope he can get further carries in subsequent games. It doesn't help that his face is so very punchable. This is my unbiased opinion and the discord posters can confirm that I am very fair and objective when it comes to Clyde Edwards-Hellaire.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16591066)

I think it's "rbbc" is code for "none of these guys are good".

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16592120)

Have you seen Jones run routes? It's pretty elementary. And he doesn't have any improv skills to speak of. Ditto his catching ability.

Look, it comes down to the fact that right none of the guys in the RB room are that great. Jerrick is probably overall the best of the bunch, but even Jerrick isn't that special. if we took Kareem back today, he'd easily be the best RB in the room, and from what I've seen of him this season, that's not that high a bar right now.

But Kareem could regularly make something out of nothing, and right now our OL is not creating a lot of good holes on a consistent basis, so our RBs are not producing consistently.

Pacheco is the only guy that is still mostly potential, so maybe he becomes that guy down the road, like next year. But he's pretty raw still.

Bottom line, the guy we need should basically be at least Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook type of RB. Jack of all trades, great at nothing maybe, but good at everything, physically about 5' 10" 210lbs or around there. Oh look, that's Kareem Hunt. Shocking.

You want real flash, then we're looking for more of a Christian McCaffrey or a Aaron jones type. Alvin Kamara would fit here as well. more explosive with the ball, but still good at all the other things. A prime or near prime Shady McCoy would be the ideal in this offense, because he was good at all of those things, and had elite vision and quickness.

But the running game would be perfectly acceptable with a RB in the Dalvin Cook mold. Good speed, some quicks, good vision, good YAC/RAC, runs good routes and good at pass pro. Oh, and stays pretty healthy.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16592122)

So, you like the idea of Mahomes getting hit and sacked more, having to run for his life more?

Good idea.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16592192)

Yeah cause CEH runs such a diverse set of routes. Good point.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16591969)

Again, he doesn't do anything but run. So, you can't really just trot him out there for run plays, or you're just screaming, "hey, dipsticks, look at us run the ball!"

you could if we were TEN or BAL or any team that currently runs more than 50% of their snaps, but not the Chiefs that only run it about 35% of snaps. At most.

We aren't ever going to be a power-running team while Andy and pat are leading this offense.

I think R. jones was always just a backup RB in case CEH and Jerrick went down, or a situation back when we were just going to run it over and over to salt away a game.

Maybe Andy felt like he could make Jones a better pass pro back and insert him in more situations, because that's something Andy would try to do, but it's pretty clear he didn't make much progress there, or he wouldn't be a heathy scratch every week.

What happened though, was pacheco turned out to not only be a decent downhill runner, but also a good returner and also was willing to become a decent pass pro RB.

And at that point, there's no reason to suit up Jones with his singular skillset of being able to run a little. Cuz he aint that special either toting the ball.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16592198)

Runs a lot more routes than Jones. Maybe you forgot that route he ran on Sunday bailing Pat out and converting the first down? Just one textbook example of things RoJo can't/won't do.

And CEH is a willing pass pro RB. RoJo?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16591098)

We went so heavy on the pass that McKinnon was the obvious option.

I really wonder what the coaching staff saw that had them quit on the run that early and that completely. Not that I minded it, but even Andy doesn't usually just say "**** it - Pat, go sling it 70 times..."

They had to have seen something that convinced them to just close shop on the run game in the 1st quarter.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16592254)

What? He ran a simple sideline/wheel route and then came back for the ball. Good catch. But nothing special. There's a reason he only catches one more ball per game than RoJo.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16592312)

Rojo wouldn't have come back. or wouldn't have caught it.

Also, in this offense RBs are expected to be able to run routes from the slot, or any position in the offense, x, y, z, whatever. Rojo can't do any of that.

And who said anything about special? I'm talking about the bare minimum to just be on the field. That's run the ball, be decent in pass pro, run the minimum number of routes from not just the tailback position but also the slot.

Rojo does one of those things. And it's not like he's a great runner anyway. he showed some flashes in TB early, but even then, he wasn't special. if he was, I'd be at least quietly banging the desk for him to get in there, but he's not. Never was. He was probably always backup in case CEH or Jerrick got hurt. No one saw Pacheco coming, which is how Jones ended up where he is.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16592342)

99.99999% of the time CEH starts plays in the backfield. I don't know what you're talking about. And in that 0.00001% play, they can put in another running back.

Really, watch the game again and look at the RB routes. I don't know what you think you're watching cause they literally do the minimum most plays when it comes to running routes.