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Stewie 11-15-2022 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 16606973)
They'll stay at TSC, raze Kaufmann, build new arrowhead, then put in shopping/bars at old Arrowhead.

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Nope. If you listened to Clark's last press conference about the subject, everything was based on the Royals staying at Truman and improving things. With the Royals moving he had no interest in staying at Truman.

Chris Meck 11-15-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16606935)
I ****in love the Power and Light district

Of course you do.

DJJasonp 11-15-2022 07:57 PM

I see both sides of this discussion. I started going to Kaufman in the 70s and it’s full of nostalgia for me.

That said, I find it hard to believe those that hate downtown stadiums have ever been to one.

Petco here in San Diego is fantastic. It has plenty of parking, public transit dropoff a block away, and countless restaurants and bars within walking distance for pregame food and beverage that ultimately is much cheaper than inside the stadium.

Done right, it can still be iconic, and it WILL help the surrounding area from a revenue/development perspective

raybec 4 11-15-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 16606989)
Nope. If you listened to Clark's last press conference about the subject, everything was based on the Royals staying at Truman and improving things. With the Royals moving he had no interest in staying at Truman.

I don't think he communicated that. In July he said he wanted to stay at Arrowhead and have it renovated.

“That process is ongoing,” Hunt told reporters. “We are very hopeful that we will be able to renovate GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium when the time comes. We’re probably still a year plus away from being able to make that determination.”

Chris Meck 11-15-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16606995)
I see both sides of this discussion. I started going to Kaufman in the 70s and it’s full of nostalgia for me.

That said, I find it hard to believe those that hate downtown stadiums have ever been to one.

Petco here in San Diego is fantastic. It has plenty of parking, public transit dropoff a block away, and countless restaurants and bars within walking distance for pregame food and beverage that ultimately is much cheaper than inside the stadium.

Done right, it can still be iconic, and it WILL help the surrounding area from a revenue/development perspective

Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.

displacedinMN 11-15-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16607002)
Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.

ick

DaFace 11-15-2022 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16606721)
I've never loved the location for baseball and would be curious to know if a ballpark in a downtown or district location actually does help a ton when it comes to development around it, jobs, $$$, etc.



At least it's not like the Diamondbacks, who want to ditch their retractable-roof stadium with restaurants and what not after only 20 years.

The LoDo area of Denver was a rundown collection of old buildings and warehouses before Coors Field was built. Now it's arguably the most active area of the city. I bet someone out there has quantified it, but I don't think there's any question it's been a huge success.


EDIT: Here's an article about it.

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/0...mart-politics/

DJJasonp 11-15-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16607002)
Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.


If that’s the target market, I guess?

Not even close to that in San Diego, but different locales obviously

ChiefsCountry 11-15-2022 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16606981)
Dare to dream a little bigger. The Royals are.

Think, business part + stadium + community center. So, 3 footprints big enought for a stadium, running West-to-East.

I think it's in that general neighborhood but a little further south.

The site down by Urban Academy and Negro League museum?

BWillie 11-15-2022 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16607002)
Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.

I was a server there for lunch during college golf season. Worst four months of my life. You are eating 40% microwaved food.

Eleazar 11-15-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16606948)
I feel they squeezed in Target field to a very small spot.

That is a small location, but it benefitted from the parking garages and the train, etc already next to it.

Chris Meck 11-15-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16607021)
If that’s the target market, I guess?

Not even close to that in San Diego, but different locales obviously

It'll absolutely be a bunch of chain bullshit. There won't be a single thing in walking distance that's actually legit KC. As in, born raised, made their salt here.

This is why I hate these types of projects. Before they put the Sprint Center in, the Crossroads area was organically beginning to thrive; arts and music and all locally owned businesses. Then Power and Blight, almost entirely chain shit from out of state. Locals are slowly getting pushed out as the developers snatch up real estate for rich people who want to live in a 'hip, urban environment', but actually hate everything about that and actually just turn it all into a whitewashed dystopia of chain restaurants, Starbucks, and some ****ing Toby Keith's yeehaw ****ing asshole bars.

Whether they plop this down right in the Crossroads district or just north, this will drive the real estate prices so high there won't be a local business anywhere in that area in 10 years. It'll all be ****ing Applebees and bullshit like that. Giant ****ing strip mall. Yay. Progress. Is this downtown Cleveland? No, Kansas City? Huh. Same difference, I guess.

****in' yuck.

Eleazar 11-15-2022 08:20 PM

Back in my day you only went downtown if you were looking for a BJ or some smack

Chris Meck 11-15-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16607031)
I was a server there for lunch during college golf season. Worst four months of my life. You are eating 40% microwaved food.

Cool, well, you'll get to enjoy it 81 times a year soon. Bon Appetit!

displacedinMN 11-15-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16607032)
That is a small location, but it benefitted from the parking garages and the train, etc already next to it.

Truthfully cannot remember if the light rail was there or not. But the garages help. Target Center-basketball was there. Ok to get in. getting out of the garages is hell.

More people today go to a game then get out of dodge when it is dark

That is the bigger waste of money. light rail.


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