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Gary Cooper 12-06-2022 12:06 PM

The DL hasn't been the same since Britt Reid stopped coaching.

FloridaMan88 12-06-2022 12:09 PM

I don’t think the answer is trading Chris Jones… instead it is surrounding him with better edge rushers… specifically upgrading from Frank Clark.

Chiefnj2 12-06-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16649837)
It has nothing to do with trying to show up players on his unit, or because he thinks CJ is a better DE than anyone else on the roster.

Sure it does. He moves Jones to DE because he has a greater chance of getting to the QB than the other guys. You think undersized Clark and Karlaftis are going to have much success on the interior? He's trying to create pressure in those circumstances by moving the teams best lineman to the DE spot.

New World Order 12-06-2022 12:15 PM

Really don't think the fans are wrong for calling out a big contract player disappearing in a crucial game.

loochy 12-06-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16649928)
I don’t think the answer is trading Chris Jones… instead it is surrounding him with better edge rushers… specifically upgrading from Frank Clark.


You mean a DE getting stuffed on the edge and spinning in a circle doesn't help the DT next to him?

Megatron96 12-06-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16649944)
Sure it does. He moves Jones to DE because he has a greater chance of getting to the QB than the other guys. You think undersized Clark and Karlaftis are going to have much success on the interior? He's trying to create pressure in those circumstances by moving the teams best lineman to the DE spot.

This is a reactionary take.

Go back and look at who else is on the line for those snaps, and where. Then look at how those players attack their assignments. CJ was drawing doubles inside. Spags is about creating mismatches, but he's also about trying to disrupt your gameplan. obviously, every team is going to try and neutralize CJ, especially with the season he's been having. At the very least, putting him outside makes doubling him that much harder.

And it could disrupt whatever plan the IOL has as well. And it's worked multiple times this season already. it just didn't work so well on Sunday.

Bottom line, Spags isn't known for trying to show up his own players. Not his thing. Creating mismatches and trying to create circumstances for mental mistakes on the OL is.

Brody Wa 12-06-2022 04:58 PM

Chris Jones is in the top 10 players list to ever play for the Chiefs. I don’t know where he is on the list however.

Megatron96 12-06-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brody Wa (Post 16650617)
Chris Jones is in the top 10 players list to ever play for the Chiefs. I don’t know where he is on the list however.

Without looking it up, I'm 99% certain he's the best DT to ever play for the Chiefs. Not sure it's that close, tbh.

jerryaldini 12-06-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16650648)
Without looking it up, I'm 99% certain he's the best DT to ever play for the Chiefs. Not sure it's that close, tbh.

HOFer Curley Culp is at least in the conversation with his career, though he played the second half of it with the Oilers.

PAChiefsGuy 12-06-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16649948)
Really don't think the fans are wrong for calling out a big contract player disappearing in a crucial game.

This isn't a one time thing either. Doesn't he have like 0 sacks in the postseason?

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16650857)
HOFer Curley Culp is at least in the conversation with his career, though he played the second half of it with the Oilers.

Buchanan?

smithandrew051 12-06-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16650648)
Without looking it up, I'm 99% certain he's the best DT to ever play for the Chiefs. Not sure it's that close, tbh.

Ryan Simms? Junior Siavii?

Kiimo 12-06-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16649917)
The DL hasn't been the same since Britt Reid stopped coaching.


that's uh, one way to describe the situation

jerryaldini 12-06-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16650864)
Buchanan?

Even better! I was thinking about him as an end because of his lean 6 foot 7 frame but you're right he played inside. Man what an interior line with two HOFers!

TwistedChief 12-06-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16649948)
Really don't think the fans are wrong for calling out a big contract player disappearing in a crucial game.

Do you think we reach as many crucial games without dominating games which only after the fact seem less crucial because we won because of plays made my CJ?


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