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LongSufferingToady 01-01-2023 11:51 PM
Special teams continues to be a problem with FG, EP and punt returns. It looks to me that Butker is going to be a problem in the playoffs. Chiefs should plan on it.

LongSufferingToady 01-01-2023 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16701818)
12. Subtract out Pat's scrambles, because none of those wre designed runs, and we ran the ball 12 times.
I put that all on Andy Reid. He got lazy again and thought with PM he could just phone it in.

KCTitus 01-01-2023 11:59 PM
For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.

Buehler445 01-02-2023 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 16702359)
For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.
Oh yeah. And that OPI was weak as shit too.

There were some bad calls out way but we definitely benefited from a couple big ones.

DenverChief 01-02-2023 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan63 (Post 16701352)
I agree with almost everything in your analysis. This isn't a knock on what you wrote, just a difference of opinion.

The Toney fumble was due to his bad technique. For one he failed to switch the ball from his left arm to his right. This exposed the ball to the defender. This is something you are taught in peewee football. Secondly his ball security itself was lacking. The scrape across his arm would not have led to a fumble if he were carrying the ball high and tight. If the defender had drove his helmet through the ball I would certainly agree that this was just a good play, but in this case I believe he was mainly at fault.

One addition I would make is I thought the offensive line held up very well in pass protection today. Usually if Mahomes was flushed it was after his second read or later. He really seemed comfortable with his pocket today.

Good and fair writeup.
100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.

TRR 01-02-2023 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16702416)
100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.
Totally agree and not sure when it first started. In past seasons, he was always so decisive between run or pass. Multiple times a game, he hesitates to make that decision…which leads to a minimal gain while absorbing a hit, or a weird throw at someone’s feet. It drives me crazy. It’s almost as though they’ve coached that decisiveness out of him in a way. Very odd.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-02-2023 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16702416)
100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.
He hesitated a couple times but I don’t think there was a clear opportunity to run for a first in either situation. Just because he seems to always scramble for the first in those situations doesn’t mean we should expect it every time.

TRR 01-02-2023 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16702429)
He hesitated a couple times but I don’t think there was a clear opportunity to run for a first in either situation. Just because he seems to always scramble for the first in those situations doesn’t mean we should expect it every time.
I don’t think he meant “running for a first down”. He meant there are more yards available than he is currently getting because of his apprehensiveness to just take off and go.

Buehler445 01-02-2023 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16702416)
100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.
The ones I'm thinking of I took as, it's 3rd and long and I can't make the first, so I'm running away to the line of scrimmage, and wait for someone to come open and obviously nobody did.

But I may be misreading the situation.

trndobrd 01-02-2023 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 16702359)
For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.

Wilson was not in the act of passing when contact was initiated. The "throw" did not occur until he was swung around by the defender. The defender did not land on the "passer". Correctly a non-call.

Your point is well taken however. I was a little suprised there was not a flag for the Chiefs being mean.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-02-2023 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 16702597)
Wilson was not in the act of passing when contact was initiated. The "throw" did not occur until he was swung around by the defender. The defender did not land on the "passer". Correctly a non-call.

Your point is well taken however. I was a little suprised there was not a flag for the Chiefs being mean.
and they should have blown it dead before Jones had a chance to sling 'em...

ChiefsFan63 01-02-2023 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16702717)
and they should have blown it dead before Jones had a chance to sling 'em...
I agree. That play was over long before the whistle blew. We would have been screaming if he refs failed to blow a play dead and let 15 take that shot.

oldman 01-02-2023 12:53 PM
The ease in scoring that 1st TD may have set the tone for some to ease up a bit. That leads to mistakes and mistakes lead to opponents points. You can rationalize all you want about Denver being up for this game due to a coaching change/embarrassing loss, but I see it as a disturbing trend where we take sad teams too lightly. Denver twice, Houston, Indy, and the Raiders games were fine examples.

el borracho 01-02-2023 03:52 PM
The new guys

Pacheco is my favorite addition this year. Love seeing him get some receptions. Would love to see him get some of the same passes McKinnon gets, especially near the goal line. Would also love to see Pacheco get some of the passes that made Kimble Anders' career. I think Pacheco has the speed, wiggle and hate to house something like that.

Toney is my second favorite addition this year. Can't wait to see what he can do after an offseason in the system.

Has Cook been more involved lately? Only casual observation, but it seems like he is either playing more or doing more than even a few games ago.

DenverChief 01-02-2023 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16702464)
The ones I'm thinking of I took as, it's 3rd and long and I can't make the first, so I'm running away to the line of scrimmage, and wait for someone to come open and obviously nobody did.

But I may be misreading the situation.
Yeah the first one was 3rd & 10 at our own 20. He hesitated and only got 4 yards. The second one was a 3rd & 10 at our own 25 and he hesitated and only got 2 yards. Either way if he doesn't hesitate maybe he gets the first maybe he doesn't. But if you are gonna hesitate and wait for the D to collapse into your running lane might as well just throw the ball out of bounds at that point instead of running for 2-4 yards and taking a hit. :shrug:


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