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chiefforlife 12-29-2024 09:09 PM

One of the worst choke jobs Ive seen since... well... our playoff game against the Colts, leading by 4 TDs going into the 4th quarter.

Certainly helped Drew Lock get a new contract.

Hoopsdoc 12-29-2024 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17883154)
Hey Hoopsdoc, what do think of Steichen? I think he was vastly overrated coming off that Eagles SB.

Hurts, as limited as he is is 100 percent a good soldier. Of all the insanity floating around that building Hurts is a rock. Steichen drew up some good plays for an absolutely stacked roster. Doesn't mean he can coach young guys into leaders.

But I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts.

I think the jury is still out on Steichen. He got dealt a really shitty hand this year. I think the benching of AR was 100 percent his idea alone, because neither Ballard or Irsay would have ever done that. I’m actually impressed that he managed to pull it off.

But if the rumors are true that AR was showing up late to meetings, being the first one out the door, and just generally not putting the work in, then it’s completely understandable. What other option did he have?

AR did play a little better after the benching, but still not well enough.

I’d like to see Steichen get another year at least. Maybe with a defense that isn’t one of the worst in the league. And maybe with a general manager that will try to get players based on whether they can actually play instead of just based on their athletic profile.

I have serious doubts whether AR will ever amount to anything but he’s shown enough imo to warrant another year.

I’m completely done with Ballard though.

Hoopsdoc 12-29-2024 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17883133)
It's your owner that's the real problem.

Nah, Jim wants to win more than anyone. I actually think he will fire Ballard after the season.

He just got suckered by Ballard’s BS.

RealSNR 12-29-2024 09:21 PM

"Let's hire that one guy from the Chiefs"

"Stop. Don't do it. The Chief Way is Mahomes. Stop trying to replicate it here!"

Ahhhh.... it's happening. I'll bet the Bears are already ripping themselves apart arguing about Ryan Poles, too :fire:

Pepe Silvia 12-29-2024 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17883192)
"Let's hire that one guy from the Chiefs"

"Stop. Don't do it. The Chief Way is Mahomes. Stop trying to replicate it here!"

Ahhhh.... it's happening. I'll bet the Bears are already ripping themselves apart arguing about Ryan Poles, too :fire:

Borganzi is about to be hired this off season according to Veach.

Buehler445 12-29-2024 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 17883185)
I think the jury is still out on Steichen. He got dealt a really shitty hand this year. I think the benching of AR was 100 percent his idea alone, because neither Ballard or Irsay would have ever done that. I’m actually impressed that he managed to pull it off.

But if the rumors are true that AR was showing up late to meetings, being the first one out the door, and just generally not putting the work in, then it’s completely understandable. What other option did he have?

AR did play a little better after the benching, but still not well enough.

I’d like to see Steichen get another year at least. Maybe with a defense that isn’t one of the worst in the league. And maybe with a general manager that will try to get players based on whether they can actually play instead of just based on their athletic profile.

I have serious doubts whether AR will ever amount to anything but he’s shown enough imo to warrant another year.

I’m completely done with Ballard though.

Fair take. Thanks.

Rausch 12-30-2024 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17883192)
"Let's hire that one guy from the Chiefs"

"Stop. Don't do it. The Chief Way is Mahomes. Stop trying to replicate it here!"

Ahhhh.... it's happening. I'll bet the Bears are already ripping themselves apart arguing about Ryan Poles, too :fire:

As a team that once suffered from the "want to win" syndrome I now laugh at being patient 0. We are typhoid Mary.

Mecca 12-30-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17883162)
I will give him credit for drafting Richardson as high as he did. Most people thought he was raw, but I am not sure many saw him end up being this fragile.

He had no other choice, he drafted Quinten Nelson ahead of Josh Allen.

Chiefspants 12-30-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17883809)
He had no other choice, he drafted Quinten Nelson ahead of Josh Allen.

There’s a lot you can blame Ballard for, but when he picked Nelson, he believed he had Andrew Luck locked down for the next decade and was drafting a surefire protector for his franchise quarterback. He, like the rest of the NFL (and even Andrew Luck, if you believe him), had zero way of knowing Luck was entering his final year.

crashcourse 12-30-2024 11:24 AM

Colts have a history of choking away games they need to have to make the playoffs

pathetc defensive effort yesterday against a team that by all reasoning should have mailed it in yesterday

I like our offense for the most part see what happens but next year last chance

Mecca 12-30-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17883813)
There’s a lot you can blame Ballard for, but when he picked Nelson, he believed he had Andrew Luck locked down for the next decade and was drafting a surefire protector for his franchise quarterback. He, like the rest of the NFL (and even Andrew Luck, if you believe him), had zero way of knowing Luck was entering his final year.

Even if you wanna say that, you still shouldn't be taking guards in the top 10. With all his moves he pigeonholed himself into having to take AR.

With all of the issues they have they are going to have to clean house and hire a hardass coach, all the late to meetings and ho hum shit needs a serious change...also this is gonna sound so ****ed but AR may not even be an NFL QB and that staff can't make that call.

Deberg_1990 12-30-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17883813)
There’s a lot you can blame Ballard for, but when he picked Nelson, he believed he had Andrew Luck locked down for the next decade and was drafting a surefire protector for his franchise quarterback. He, like the rest of the NFL (and even Andrew Luck, if you believe him), had zero way of knowing Luck was entering his final year.

Yea that’s interesting. How much did Luck and that organization know
Ahead of time? Was it just a last minute bomb he dropped
On the team or not?

Chiefspants 12-30-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17883817)
Even if you wanna say that, you still shouldn't be taking guards in the top 10. With all his moves he pigeonholed himself into having to take AR.

With all of the issues they have they are going to have to clean house and hire a hardass coach, all the late to meetings and ho hum shit needs a serious change...also this is gonna sound so ****ed but AR may not even be an NFL QB and that staff can't make that call.

To me that was similar to us spending 5/80 on Thuney (which felt insane to some folks at the time) to signal to their franchise QB that they were moving on from Grigson and going to make sure they protected him.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17883818)
Yea that’s interesting. How much did Luck and that organization know
Ahead of time? Was it just a last minute bomb he dropped
On the team or not?

It was a complete shock. Something the Colts have always maintained and Luck confirmed just a couple years ago. The Colts originally thought he was pranking them somehow.

Mecca 12-30-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17883823)
To me that was similar to us spending 5/80 on Thuney (which felt insane to some folks at the time) to signal to their franchise QB that they were moving on from Grigson and going to make sure they protected him.



It was a complete shock. Something the Colts have always maintained and Luck confirmed just a couple years ago. The Colts originally thought he was pranking them somehow.

And he responded by not giving a ****.

Mecca 12-30-2024 11:42 AM

They traded pick 13 for DeForest Buckner knowing they needed a QB.

But where they really ****ed up and I know this sounds weird is the next year they got Pittman and Taylor which on paper looks great, until you see Jordan Love went 6 spots ahead of Pittman looking back on it they should have been all over that.


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