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notorious 04-17-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16904934)
Man, I thought this dude would be a backup at best in the nfl. Dudes earned it. Seems to be really well liked and he played a hell of a game in the Super Bowl. At least unlike Herbert he got to a big game let alone THE big game.

Overall Philly can’t be disappointed other than that they saw us and not cincy in their Super Bowl. It’s going to be hard to build around him but it’s not like Kyler, Russell or dak where you have to do it very reluctantly.

He played out of his mind against us.

Made a believer out of me.

chiefzilla1501 04-17-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16905402)
One good season and he gets that contract?

That doesn’t seem unreasonable for a qb drafting outside of the first round. It takes a while to develop and their rookie contracts are shorter. It’s not like a dak situation where you feel obligated to pay a contract. He’s given Philly reason to want to give him a contract.

Red Dawg 04-17-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16905421)
He played out of his mind against us.

Made a believer out of me.

Yeah, getting shoved in the end zone by his teammates was real impressive. lets see what he does now. I think he's not that great.

notorious 04-17-2023 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16905467)
Yeah, getting shoved in the end zone by his teammates was real impressive. lets see what he does now. I think he's not that great.

Did you miss the dozen or so precision throws he made under immense pressure during crucial points in the game?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-17-2023 01:19 PM

That rugby play is such bullshit though

Pasta Little Brioni 04-17-2023 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16905473)
Did you miss the dozen or so precision throws he made under immense pressure during crucial points in the game?

True but cmon. 50 50 hero balls being caught every damn time. That team scores 14 to 17 less points on a normal day. Meanwhile the KC offense looked effortless

Iconic 04-17-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16905402)
One good season and he gets that contract?

I was never a big Hurts fan but is this really even a question? He took them to the SB and went toe to toe with the best in the game. You pay that guy whatever the **** he wants.

DJ's left nut 04-17-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16905467)
Yeah, getting shoved in the end zone by his teammates was real impressive. lets see what he does now. I think he's not that great.

Easy question - are the Eagles more likely to make the SB in the next 3-4 years w/ Jalen Hurts under center with his present contract than they would be if the Eagles traded him or let him walk and attempted to draft a replacement?

I think the answer is yes. So in that case, you sign him.

It's not going to be easy, but it'll be easier than the alternative. This isn't like the Giants giving Daniel Jones a deal - they are, at BEST, no closer to winning a championship and in all probability further away than they would be by moving on from Jones.

The Eagles can make this work - it'll just be harder than it was when he was making 2nd rounder money.

DJ's left nut 04-17-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16905477)
True but cmon. 50 50 hero balls being caught every damn time. That team scores 14 to 17 less points on a normal day. Meanwhile the KC offense looked effortless

He's not Mahomes. Nobody else is.

If you're a team that just had an excellent season and looked markedly different with Hurts under center than you did with Minshew, you can't just say "**** it - we either get Mahomes or we just keep churning through QBs on rookie contracts..."

Mahomes just isn't a reasonable standard to hold a guy to. Jalen Hurts wins the Super Bowl if literally ANY other human being in the world is playing Quarterback for the Chiefs.

So...keep him.

Otter 04-17-2023 01:43 PM

He's good talent. Just had to try and win against the best last game and lost. Nothing to be ashamed of.

DRM08 04-17-2023 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16905516)
Easy question - are the Eagles more likely to make the SB in the next 3-4 years w/ Jalen Hurts under center with his present contract than they would be if the Eagles traded him or let him walk and attempted to draft a replacement?

I think the answer is yes. So in that case, you sign him.

It's not going to be easy, but it'll be easier than the alternative. This isn't like the Giants giving Daniel Jones a deal - they are, at BEST, no closer to winning a championship and in all probability further away than they would be by moving on from Jones.

The Eagles can make this work - it'll just be harder than it was when he was making 2nd rounder money.

One thing in Philly's favor is the very weak situation for QB's in the NFC. They have a much cleaner path than any of the AFC teams.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-17-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16905517)
He's not Mahomes. Nobody else is.

If you're a team that just had an excellent season and looked markedly different with Hurts under center than you did with Minshew, you can't just say "**** it - we either get Mahomes or we just keep churning through QBs on rookie contracts..."

Mahomes just isn't a reasonable standard to hold a guy to. Jalen Hurts wins the Super Bowl if literally ANY other human being in the world is playing Quarterback for the Chiefs.

So...keep him.

I agree. I'm just pointing out the absolute bullshit plays it took to put up points

DJ's left nut 04-17-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16905534)
I agree. I'm just pointing out the absolute bullshit plays it took to put up points

Is there anyone who could've been playing QB for the Eagles that day who would've put them past us?

I really don't think there is. And I don't know that there are any QBs who I'd have been reasonably confident would've kept them AS close. Maybe Josh Allen because of the way the threat of the QB run kept us a bit off balance for awhile.

Maybe Burrow since he'd have similar offensive weapons to what he has but a better OL? Then again, it was Cincy's defense that really seemed to give us fits in that AFCCG.

But whatever the case may be, it's a damn short list that Hurts put himself on with that performance and the season he had leading up to it. That's worth a shiny new QB contract.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-17-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16905543)
Is there anyone who could've been playing QB for the Eagles that day who would've put them past us?

I really don't think there is. And I don't know that there are any QBs who I'd have been reasonably confident would've kept them AS close. Maybe Josh Allen because of the way the threat of the QB run kept us a bit off balance for awhile.

Maybe Burrow since he'd have similar offensive weapons to what he has but a better OL? Then again, it was Cincy's defense that really seemed to give us fits in that AFCCG.

But whatever the case may be, it's a damn short list that Hurts put himself on with that performance and the season he had leading up to it. That's worth a shiny new QB contract.

^this^ even with a 60%-70% hobbled up Mahomes...

Gary Cooper 04-17-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16905514)
I was never a big Hurts fan but is this really even a question? He took them to the SB and went toe to toe with the best in the game. You pay that guy whatever the **** he wants.

They also won a Super Bowl during a season where Carson Wentz and Nick Foles both played great.

Why not wait for six to nine months? It's not like he'd ask for more than $50 million if he excels again in 2023. If he plays worse in 2023 they likely still keep him but offer less money.


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