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Marcellus 09-18-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17117323)
My “take” was a question. Not a statement, a “take” or any other factual comment. It was designed to spur conversation not critique. You are having a massive over reaction to a question.

Regardless of how long he has been playing …the NFL could decide it’s not right and make the Chiefs lives miserable with penalties. The question was if an adjustment couldn’t be made acceptably (by the NFL) what do we do? That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading into things.

I thought we were supposed to be having a level headed discussion? Why couldn't he make the necessary adjustments, why is that even a question?

Here is some data for you from his career. (stolen from an Athletic article)

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Taylor’s struggles a surprise
The Jaguars’ 2019 second-round pick yielded a 3.3 percent pressure rate and one sack during Weeks 14-18 last season. The average rate for tackles sat at 5.5 percent during that span, so Taylor kept Trevor Lawrence well-protected. Taylor should be doing the same for Patrick Mahomes.

And even though this is more about the stretch run of last season, just one more set of numbers to prove Taylor’s significance and improvement. Taylor’s 2.5 percent pressure rate allowed last season ranked fourth among all tackles (left or right), continuing a trend of steady growth. Here’s a look at Taylor’s pressure rates over the past three seasons:

2020: 8.0 percent (fifth worst among tackles)
2021: 4.8 percent
2022: 2.5 percent
So his struggles through two weeks have been a bit baffling. — Holder

Simply Red 09-18-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17116724)
McDuffie is such a shutdown dawg. Him and Cook are the catalysts of the secondary.


Dude is a dog

crispystl 09-18-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 17116395)
I think the holding calls were still targeting him, I think because they couldn’t throw a flag for a false start or lining up wrong they were throwing holding flags as retaliation anyways. Jags were holding way more blatantly and being praised by the announcers for it.

On like the 3rd play of the game on of the offensive lineman freaking clotheslined Chris Jones right in front of the ref and nobody said shit. It was blatant as hell and had a huge effect on the play.

DenverChief 09-18-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17117341)
I thought we were supposed to be having a level headed discussion? Why couldn't he make the necessary adjustments, why is that even a question?

Here is some data for you from his career. (stolen from an Athletic article)

A level headed discussion does not include telling someone their over reacting. Either you aren’t married or your divorced if you think talking to someone like that will induce love and affection.

That data has nothing to do with the NFL putting a target on his back for not aligning properly or “false starting” with his legal kick backs. I don’t know why the refs do some of the things they do but it becomes pretty glaring when the team is super successful that anything that is “out of the norm” is heavily scrutinized for the successful team and not others.

HemiEd 09-18-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17116377)
I agree with almost all of this - the Kelce stuff is just Kelce being Kelce - I don't think this is a regression, I think it's his way of getting his team fired up. If it continues into other games and starts to negatively impact the team it will be concerning - until then....

I blame the Kelce stuff on Taylor Swift. If she would give it up he would have some tension relieved.

scho63 09-18-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17117303)
Also, how the **** was that not OPI when the receiver literally tackled Cook? Holy shit was a ridiculous non call.

Cook was raped. :eek:

wazu 09-18-2023 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17115224)
On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard.

This was a top 3 moment of the day for me. Just run the ball there! We have this badass interior OL and a relentless, hard-nosed RB. We now have the crew to just impose our will on the defense and get that yard. DO IT!

HemiEd 09-18-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17117382)
On like the 3rd play of the game on of the offensive lineman freaking clotheslined Chris Jones right in front of the ref and nobody said shit. It was blatant as hell and had a huge effect on the play.

Yeah, I remember that and was pretty pissed about it. The officiating was horrible.

Oh, and why in the heck was Trent Green not doing the Chiefs game instead of the bafoon that was?

JPH83 09-18-2023 03:06 PM

Some PFF grades if of interest. I'll focus on the ones I agree with obviously

C. Jones - 92 - holy s*** just pay the guy whatever he wants.
McDuffie - 80 (coverage was 90) - Stud
Chenal - 76 - Uber Chad
Karlaftis - 70 - Nice
FAU - 69 - Reeeal nice

Worst score was Bryan Cook, the rest they were meh on largely but had some love for Turk and they also recognised a better game from Nnadi. Seemed to think our LBs and corners outside of McDuffie struggled in coverage. Definitely agree on the LBs and thought Sneed started badly but rallied.

Mahomes was a 78 but passing of only 69, which let's be honest we all saw.
Pacheco - 74 - he's back
Rice - 70 - slice of nice
Toney - 70 - mini bounce back

They reckon D Smith was a 62 but almost 80 for pass blocking. Did not think he was that good, huh, maybe I'll watch again.

Everyone else was bad pretty much, oh they thought Gray was decent and T Smith was better than Thuney and Creed who had some of their worst games.

Hammock Parties 09-18-2023 03:08 PM

FAU gonna be Mack Lee Hill Award Winner

RaidersOftheCellar 09-18-2023 03:48 PM

The pessimist in me says "We finally have a legit defense and now the offense is falling off." But the optimist usually wins out. I think that was actually a pretty solid offensive performance outside of the penalties. No one facing that many penalties is going to consistently score against a good team on the road.

I never get too worried about mental errors with a Reid team. It's never a consistent issue on his teams.

I'd much rather see the offense struggle than the D, because we know that a team led by Reid/Mahomes/Kelce is going to figure it out. And with this defense, they may not even need to be elite.

trndobrd 09-18-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17117558)
This was a top 3 moment of the day for me. Just run the ball there! We have this badass interior OL and a relentless, hard-nosed RB. We now have the crew to just impose our will on the defense and get that yard. DO IT!

I jumped up out of the recliner and cheered on that play. Best interior O-line in the NFL and hard nosed RB= 1st down Kansas City.

It helps that no team will EVER completely sell out to stop the short yardage run against an Andy Reid coached team w/ Mahomes at QB.


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