Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17172196)

It sounds like he's disparaging athlete QBs who can't read the whole field well and/or pass from the pocket in a pro style offense.

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17172196)

It sounds like he's disparaging athlete QBs who can't read the whole field well and/or pass from the pocket in a pro style offense.

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17172766)

I must admit I've been shocked that Lamar has lasted as long as he has.

He's had some knee problems, but he is both a really elusive RB and his passing has improved. He doesn't take many hits when he takes off running.

If I was a Raven fan, I would still be worried about Lamar's longevity. It's not like the issue goes away as he gets older.

And Lamar doesn't have the best record of carrying his team in the playoffs.

But his accomplishments deserve at least some recognition.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 17171031)

Richardson hasn't played long enough to show he is a "student of the game". Until then he only relies on his athleticism. What you don't know if he is learning to be a student. Remember when Mike Vick, Vince Young, Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson,...... were all considered the 2nd coming? For a short bit it looked like they could be but only to the novice eye.

Because they were not students of the game, DCs around the league caught up to their athleticism because their lack of "knowing the game". Kyler Murray, Jordan Love, Justin Fields, Zack Wilson, etc..... are well on their way to the "athletic back up heap".

Vick was probably the most athletically talented with Jackson close behind and Newton closing out with their athleticism extending their careers but DCs eventually caught up to them. Vick said, when he went to Philly he finally became a real QB working with Reid. :thumb:

Young talented rookie pitchers come in as "throwers" in the big leagues and have immediate success 'because' hitters have not seen them. But over time IF the talented throwers do not learn how to 'pitch' the hitters will eventually catch up to them.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17172782)

I actually think the Ravens would be a sneaky-problematic team for the Chiefs to beat in the playoffs.

I'd still take the Chiefs, but the Ravens present some tough matchup issues. I'd take the Chiefs 60/40, as opposed to much of this board that might take them 80/20.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17172792)

Lamar has had playoff games where his throwing mechanics get off and he misses a lot of throws.

But when that doesn't happen he's a top ten QB ability wise.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17172798)

I agree that Lamar is problematic if you're looking to win playoff games.

I just like their defense/run game combo. I think it has enough juice to really test KC, and then Lamar can hit you with counterpunches.

I would still bet on the Chiefs, I just have a lot of respect for Harbaugh and some of the talent on that team.

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17172925)

Lamar has ended the last two seasons injured and not playing.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17172801)

I do too. Would always expect to win but let's say we draw Ravens first in playoffs.


They are one of the few teams than can take away Kelce and then Rice has to beat his guy repeatedly or we go home.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17173259)

Direckshun's dumb assery strikes once again
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Colts QB Anthony Richardson is &quot;probably&quot; going to miss the rest of the regular season, team owner Jim Irsay told <a href="https://twitter.com/HolderStephen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HolderStephen</a>.<br><br>Richardson could undergo shoulder surgery in the next week or so. <br><br>More: <a href="https://t.co/eDp0LYO76x">https://t.co/eDp0LYO76x</a> <a href="https://t.co/NOHetFihxy">pic.twitter.com/NOHetFihxy</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/1714086595903598705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17173755)

:rolleyes:

You guys even shit on a premier football channel like QB School. Easily among the best channels on football.

It’s a great channel. He does excellent work. And in the OP, he makes a compelling case for the incredible promise we all saw in Richardson but immediately elected to hate the second he went to an AFC rival.

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17173779)

Best ability is availability, something Richardson hasn't shown a lot of so far.