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scho63 12-26-2023 03:32 PM

Matt Nagy-the only OC in NFL history that can turn Patrick Mahomes and the highest scoring offense of 2022 into the Chicago Bears 7.9 points per game mistake prone snoozefest.

MIAdragon 12-26-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 17299868)
Time to repo the golf carts

Or start them instead. Simply parked on the line would give Pat more time to run around before being sacked/incomplete.

Sassy Squatch 12-26-2023 04:13 PM

At least Bears fans finally know what a Nagy offense with Mahomes would look like. Sucks badly.

RunKC 12-26-2023 04:22 PM

They had no choice but to run screens and quick passes. Any time Mahomes dropped back he was either sacked or ran for his life

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders only blitzed Patrick Mahomes on 3 dropbacks<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> still allowed pressure on 39% of his dropbacks. 15’s stat line under pressure (PFF):<br><br>5/13 passing<br>2.4 Y/A<br>4 Throwaways<br>4 Sacks<br>Only 3 1st down completions</p>&mdash; Ron Kopp Jr. (@Ron_Kopp) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ron_Kopp/status/1739765609024414174?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 12-26-2023 04:26 PM

Holy shit Mahomes ran more in this game than he did in the Super Bowl debacle? Yeah. No more Andy and Nagy criticism. They couldn't call anything in this game bc the OL got anally raped, the run game had only 32 yards on 15 carries and the WR's can't separate.

Again wtf do ya'll want Andy or Nagy to do here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes covered 945 yards in that game, including sprinting for 226 yards. He&#39;s now at 917 yards and has sprinted for 280 yards. So he&#39;s running for his life even more today than in that game. <a href="https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll">https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1739385511368622111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 12-26-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17301900)
Holy shit Mahomes ran more in this game than he did in the Super Bowl debacle? Yeah. No more Andy and Nagy criticism. They couldn't call anything in this game bc the OL got anally raped, the run game had only 32 yards on 15 carries and the WR's can't separate.

Again wtf do ya'll want Andy or Nagy to do here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes covered 945 yards in that game, including sprinting for 226 yards. He&#39;s now at 917 yards and has sprinted for 280 yards. So he&#39;s running for his life even more today than in that game. <a href="https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll">https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1739385511368622111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So it’s on Veach… a massive failure at offensive tackles, similar to the WR epic fail.

And no excuses for Donovan Smith being out.

He’s not exactly been great when playing and given his injury issues last year, the Chiefs should have been realistic about his ability to play an entire season.

Sassy Squatch 12-26-2023 04:31 PM

Probably start with getting Morris some chip help, but that's just me.

-King- 12-26-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17301900)
Holy shit Mahomes ran more in this game than he did in the Super Bowl debacle? Yeah. No more Andy and Nagy criticism. They couldn't call anything in this game bc the OL got anally raped, the run game had only 32 yards on 15 carries and the WR's can't separate.

Again wtf do ya'll want Andy or Nagy to do here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes covered 945 yards in that game, including sprinting for 226 yards. He&#39;s now at 917 yards and has sprinted for 280 yards. So he&#39;s running for his life even more today than in that game. <a href="https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll">https://t.co/LJlFGsRyll</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1739385511368622111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Idk, but they were involved in personnel decisions and in developing these players. So yeah...do your job as a coach and coach them to be better and put them in positions of success.

If EVERYBODY on the offense was a **** up, how is coaching not responsible?

It's not like these are players Reid and Nagy walked in to and they just had to make the best of it. These are their handpicked players. You don't to hand pick players, train them all off season, and then when they all fail or regress in the season, act like you had nothing to do with it.

Sassy Squatch 12-26-2023 04:38 PM

Morris 10
Thuney 4
Humphrey 2
Smith 0
Taylor 5

****s sake, the fact they expected Morris to last out on an island is lunacy.

RunKC 12-26-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17301910)
If EVERYBODY on the offense was a **** up, how is coaching not responsible?

Andy is 100% responsible for this mess and so is Veach.

The "Chiefs looked like Nagy's Bears" bc they threw a ton of horizontal passes and screens. Well what else can they do?

McKinnon was out, Pacheco got hurt and Clyde sure as hell can't block like those two.

Wanya got raped, Jawaan had to have chip help against Crosby and our IOL got beat.

The Raiders played cover 4 and crashed downhill bc their front 4 got pressure constantly.

Any time a front 4 gets that much pressure on the QB your offense is cooked. We learned that from the TB Super Bowl debacle and both of Tom Brady's Super Bowl losses to the Giants.

They don't have the talent like they did before. It's never been more obvious.

KCUnited 12-26-2023 04:45 PM

Oline caused Patrick to scream towards the sideline to get the plays in on time

Gary Cooper 12-26-2023 04:53 PM

Bienemy was supposed to be gone years ago, to take a head coaching position "somewhere". He was never staying long-term, unless Reid retired and Bienemy became head coach. There's no point lamenting his absence when we're probably lucky he stayed so long.

Andy won't throw Nagy under the bus. Nor should he. A team's coaching staff is a reflection of the head coach. Just like a restaurant kitchen. You can blame all the individual offensive coaches, but it begins with Andy. He's the head chef. If there's shitty food coming out of the kitchen, the head chef isn't managing well. He put this staff together. He's the head play caller. He knows the team's tendencies better than anyone.

TEX 12-26-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17301957)
Bienemy was supposed to be gone years ago, to take a head coaching position "somewhere". He was never staying long-term, unless Reid retired and Bienemy became head coach. There's no point lamenting his absence when we're probably lucky he stayed so long.

Andy won't throw Nagy under the bus. Nor should he. A team's coaching staff is a reflection of the head coach. Just like a restaurant kitchen. You can blame all the individual offensive coaches, but it begins with Andy. He's the head chef. If there's shitty food coming out of the kitchen, the head chef isn't managing well. He put this staff together. He's the head play caller. He knows the team's tendencies better than anyone.

You can still say Nagy SUCKS. Because he does.

TEX 12-26-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17301883)
At least Bears fans finally know what a Nagy offense with Mahomes would look like. Sucks badly.

Cant even get the play to Mahomes in time...:shake:
Nagy is butt trash.

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-26-2023 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17301934)
Andy is 100% responsible for this mess and so is Veach.

The "Chiefs looked like Nagy's Bears" bc they threw a ton of horizontal passes and screens. Well what else can they do?

McKinnon was out, Pacheco got hurt and Clyde sure as hell can't block like those two.

Wanya got raped, Jawaan had to have chip help against Crosby and our IOL got beat.

The Raiders played cover 4 and crashed downhill bc their front 4 got pressure constantly.

Any time a front 4 gets that much pressure on the QB your offense is cooked. We learned that from the TB Super Bowl debacle and both of Tom Brady's Super Bowl losses to the Giants.

They don't have the talent like they did before. It's never been more obvious.

You beat me to the punch.

Constant pressure with just four is the great equalizer in the NFL.

It is the best defensive measure available.


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