Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17472012)

Interesting idea, Hoover. Has it actually been floated at all?

Maybe if you give Clark a free hand with the land in the area (and take the Royals out of there so that he can build that sort of entertainment district where they're sitting) he'll convince himself that he can manage what city leaders have failed at for so long.

It really is just a question of making the investment worthwhile for him. If he thinks it can be done in a way that allows them to stay in Jackson County, I suspect Arrowhead is still being replaced, but he'd probably be happy to do so and build a new stadium if it the investment can be recovered.

And for that to be the case I think you're right - it's gotta be his land. Jackson County would still benefit hugely by the tax revenues (sales tax in addition to property). Though without the Chiefs, what's the actual value of that land anyway?

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17472015)

I think you’d need more land than that. If MO added a casino, you’d have room the royals and a casino at the airport. Take a look at this map. You can see the size of arrowhead in red relative to the wheeler airport in blue. If Kansas wanted to make a run, maybe next to the power plant where the pin is located. It could be cool to get a ferry to the game like Disney where they transport people via boat from downtown but the boats would have to be much bigger.

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17471985)

I was just looking at that area...move Wheeler to the big field where the Arabian Steam Boat was excavated (both are Flood Zones) across the river south of Parkville. Probably very expensive to build on flood plain, but at least it's out of Jackson Co.

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17472026)

Bingo.

If the Chiefs and Royals vacate its worthless IMO. I have not seen the idea floated anywhere, its just what I think would be best for all involved.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17472045)

Go look at the Royals proposed site in the crossroads then Harlem harlem is 2 to 3 times the size on Google Maps. The railroad cant be moved but you can go under or over. and more parking can be acquired in nearby NKC. By the way the street car is proposed to expand north down heart of America bridge then Burlington into the NKC district. That would be ideal for a satellite parking area or garage somewhere on the route that swings over to the ballpark.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17472046)

Which begs the question - why would Clark see that as a massive benefit over putting it...anywhere?

"Here's 450 acres of land that's worth precisely ****-all if you leave..."

"Yeah, but I can get 500 acres of land that's worth a BUNCH in Wyandotte if I move..."

Just trying to view this as strictly assets at this point. The asset value of the land that Arrowhead is sitting on seems to be very little. I mean honestly I think you're looking at $10 million on the high side (warning: that came from my ass).

He could get $100 million in straight cash via a tax measure in Wyandotte. Giving him a $10 million parcel of land in what would become an industrial park without him seems like a drop in the bucket.

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17472060)

Because it has value to him.

Perfect location. Huge. All the infrastructure is built.

Building something from scratch isn't easy or cheap. Plus improving Truman would have different timeline. He could build new team facilities now. You can start building your entertainment district now. Once Kaufmann comes down you start construction of a new stadium (which you want while you still have Mahomes IMO).

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17472080)

I want the Chiefs to stay at Arrowhead. Renovate if need be. Don't change the name. Make it like a soccer stadium in Europe or NCAA football stadium in the U.S. The most famous of those stadiums are older but have tons of history and great atmosphere. Modern stadiums are beautiful, but lack history, atmosphere and are just big mausoleums.

The Royals can move to Montreal, Nashville, Bogota, I could care less. They made the playoffs twice in 30 years! They're lucky they have fans remaining.

Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17472092)

Man i hate the way every new NFL stadium looks. Completely soulless altar to corporatism. I don't really know what Arrowhead needs, but I wish the Chiefs could just stay there forever.

As for the Royals, not really a fan so it's no concern to me. I like the K too, it's just not in a good baseball location. It was brutal in the 90s though, just concrete on top of concrete. It looked like it was built by the Soviets.