Very true. Have a friend riding it out. Very smart, very liberal, and makes more than I do. They just don't want to leave and think they are properly prepared. They just respond this isn't their first rodeo.

I guess it's a little like Kansas and tornadoes. One was coming down my road and I am out there taking pictures. You kind of getting use to them and can very easily underestimate their power.

Milton has been upgraded back to a cat 5. Sustained winds of 165 MPH is ****ing bananas. 165 mph is the very top of an EF3 and only 1 mph off an EF4. Thats crazy to me.

Just saw that the mayor of Tampa has declared that anybody who stays is going to die.

Tornados are easier to avoid and you rarely get one that is over a mile wide. They don't do near the destruction that a hurricane of this magnitude will do. Tornados don't cause every house in town to be under water. Anyone trying to ride this out is an idiot and will be lucky to not end up waiting on a helicopter to pull you off your roof.

They also don't give you time to evacuate. If the weather forecast told me with certainty that in three days my house is going to be hit by an F4 tornado I'd be somewhere else that day.

That is what I told him. But people are going to make their own decisions. But was responding to the fact it has nothing to do with money, political affiliation, or intelligence.

The gas is on the way to the stations...just not making it fast enough

Outside of Katrina, tornadoes cause more deaths and injuries per year than hurricanes, but that's also because there are a **** ton more tornadoes per year.

As mentioned though, you don't get 3 days' notice on a tornado... yet, it can be coming down your street and at any time you can jump in the basement if needed; compared to a hurricane being 900 ****ing miles wide.

Insurance companies kind of tell the story though in terms of destruction.. they've been pulling out of hurricane states and wild fire states, but AFAIK haven't been as concerned about the midwest and tornadoes.

Seems like a good opportunity to loot, steal and plunder.

Grab a WR down there while you're at it

I have a bunch of friends/family who made the drive from the Tampa-area today to Miami.

Once you get out of Tampa/Sarasota area and get to Naples finding gas is not an issue. It's a little more sporadic in Fort Myers, but can still be found.

This is the thing. In the Midwest, sure, we're going to have the occasional tornado. Even up here in northern Illinois, we get them. But they are rare, and while the damage can be horrible, even the worst of them are isolated to relatively small area. That offers cold comfort if it's your shit that gets blown away, but it's not like these monstrous hurricanes that can lay waste to everything for hundreds of miles.

I truly will never understand why people deliberately move to places like Florida. When my previously mentioned friends first told me they were relocating there, I told them then that I thought they were both nuts. You've got the oppressive heat and humidity and dinosaurs crawling through your yard, and that's on a good day. On a bad day, you get this. And they happen regularly. You live there long enough, you're going to get hit by one, there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it, and you can only hope that it will be a glancing blow and not some shit like Andrew or Katrina. No thanks.

Yeah, the weather sucks up here; summers can be awful, winters can be brutal, but we're mostly safe, except from each other.

Just think of all the golf courses you can play for free right now

i guess he got so much blowback yesterday that he changed the policy. Glad to see the peoples anger still moves a politician.

wouldn't recommend that in our neighborhood, Most have 5-6 guns and know how to shoot.