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saphojunkie 11-22-2024 03:35 PM

Dear lord people settle the **** down. You lost against one of the best AFC teams the last five years, on the road at their place. It ****ing happens.

DOES MAHOMES EVEN WATCH FILM ANYMORE>>!>!>>!"??!????????

Megatron96 11-22-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17818588)
I don't actually think it's a lot of different things he has to fix. I think the majority of it is between his ears. I think it's primarily a trust issue. He's not trusting his teammates, and he sure as hell isn't trusting what made him so great - his instincts to stand in the pocket and make the play. That's all JMHO.




And then there's his inaccuracy and his lack of throwing fundamentals. Are those tied to his trust issues? I don't know. But they definitely exist and are a big problem at the moment and they need fixing.

-King- 11-22-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17818614)
Defense of what exactly? Him playing at less than a MVP level in some meaningless regular season games for both him and the team?

Mahomes is the best player in the history of football and currently leading a team to a 9-1 record coming off B2B SBs while still posting a top 5 QBR in the sport. He doesn't need a defense of anything.

Unfortunately some around here have gotten so spoiled by him and this team that they can't even recognize what it is that they have anymore.

Qbr. Dvoa. He's not really trying. The sun was in his eyes. I get it. You don't have to repeat yourself.

KC_Connection 11-22-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17818757)
Qbr. Dvoa. I get it. You don't have to repeat yourself.

Keep crying about the best QB in history during a 9-1 season because he missed a few throws in November. We'll see how it works out for you come playoff time when the games actually matter.

KC_Connection 11-22-2024 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17818717)
Dear lord people settle the **** down. You lost against one of the best AFC teams the last five years, on the road at their place. It ****ing happens.

DOES MAHOMES EVEN WATCH FILM ANYMORE>>!>!>>!"??!????????

This is what happens when you become so spoiled by the historic level of success of Mahomes and the Chiefs that you lose any sense of perspective.

I can only imagine the discourse when the team actually loses a playoff game again for the 2nd time this decade instead of just a November game.

-King- 11-22-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17818762)
Keep crying about the best QB in history during a 9-1 season because he missed a few throws in November. We'll see how it works out for you come playoff time when the games actually matter.

I know it's wild that I want the elite QB that I've grown to love to play well in both the regular season and post season.

It's really hilarious that you think that this is a good point to make. But par the course. I'm sure in 2022 you were pissed in the regular season at all the yards and touchdowns he was throwing and how well he avoided turnovers.

KC_Connection 11-22-2024 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17818779)
I know it's wild that I want the elite QB that I've grown to love to play well in both the regular season and post season.

It's really hilarious that you think that this is a good point to make. But par the course. I'm sure in 2022 you were pissed in the regular season at all the yards and touchdowns he was throwing and how well he avoided turnovers.

Josh Allen has been a better regular season QB for this entire decade than Patrick Mahomes.

Ask me if I give a shit. Ask me if anybody should.

TheGuardian 11-22-2024 04:52 PM

I didn't go through all the comments but when I went back and watched the Bills game two more times what jumped out at me was exactly what he said in that piece ....

Pat is breaking CLEAN pockets

Trey Smith is the actual problem

So then I went back and looked at the Denver and Tampa games. And it was Trey getting his ass handed to him by Allen and Vae.

Not saying the tackle play is ALL WORLD but I think there was a narrative beginning and it actually isn't true. For the last three games Trey has had a strech of stank I ain't seen from him ever.

Chiefspants 11-22-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17818181)
It's been obvious to anyone paying attention that PMII isn't on his game. The question is why? What's changed? Some of those answers are obvious (trust in receivers and lack of OL protection/trust in OL protection), but the other factors aren't that obvious. Maybe it's just a combo of those two items that are creating a lot of head trash for Pat and making him into a more average NFL QB. I don't know...

I have another theory. I think the team (and Patrick) have significant concerns about his lower body and we’ve repeatedly seen nagging injuries to his lower half through his career. The fact that Reid showed he won’t even call a gimme QB sneak on 4th and 1 with the Super Bowl on the line shows the depths of that concern. I think it’s known around the league, the angriest I’ve ever seen Patrick was when a Bears player tried a dirty shot below the knee last year. There was none of that happy go-lucky Patrick we often see towards defenders, he was incandescent. The last time he was in a funk like this (early to mid 2021) overlapped an often long and arduous recovery with turf toe.

I could be talking out of my ass, I could be completely wrong. But I think if he’s managing substantial ankle pain his blindside could be weighing on his mind with each snap.

He’s shown he can overcome this. He won a Super Bowl with a high ankle sprain in one of his best and most efficient games at QB. But if he’s trying to just get through the regular season, it could lead to the compounding problems we’re seeing from 15 this season.

Chiefspants 11-22-2024 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17818789)
I didn't go through all the comments but when I went back and watched the Bills game two more times what jumped out at me was exactly what he said in that piece ....

Pat is breaking CLEAN pockets

Trey Smith is the actual problem

So then I went back and looked at the Denver and Tampa games. And it was Trey getting his ass handed to him by Allen and Vae.

Not saying the tackle play is ALL WORLD but I think there was a narrative beginning and it actually isn't true. For the last three games Trey has had a strech of stank I ain't seen from him ever.

Gonna talk out of my ass again with a worry there might be a bit of blueprint on Smith. He’s always struggled a bit with stunts against a fast/athletic DE and since Tampa has been having his lunch money taken with concerning regularity. Hopefully it’s just a funk, and hopefully Pop brings back a much quicker option at RB that can allow for quick dump offs and runs that break into the second level to keep opposing DL’s more honest in their approach.

TheGuardian 11-22-2024 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17818838)
Gonna talk out of my ass again with a worry there might be a bit of blueprint on Smith. He’s always struggled a bit with stunts against a fast/athletic DE and since Tampa has been having his lunch money taken with concerning regularity. Hopefully it’s just a funk, and hopefully Pop brings back a much quicker option at RB that can allow for quick dump offs and runs that break into the second level to keep opposing DL’s more hesitant in their approach.

You're not wrong, bro. This is at least a 3 game stretch where he's playing at a back up scrub level. Quite odd because Trey always seemed to be the finisher and mean streak guy, but right now he's absolutely getting worked.

He's the actual biggest issue on the line - not Morris.

mr. tegu 11-22-2024 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17818781)
Josh Allen has been a better regular season QB for this entire decade than Patrick Mahomes.

Ask me if I give a shit. Ask me if anybody should.


Well this is just ridiculous.

KC_Connection 11-22-2024 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17819117)
Well this is just ridiculous.

Which part? That Josh Allen has been the better regular season QB since 2020 or that I don't care whatsoever?

Because both are true.

Titty Meat 11-22-2024 08:18 PM

A big **** you to KC Connection easily the biggest moron on this board. Mahomes hasn't been good this year and that Canadian bundle of sticks tries to say TOP 5 QBR!

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-22-2024 08:28 PM

It is just reality, Mahomes and several of the Chiefs are a little bored and unfocused with the regular season. You saw it happen in games with Brade and the Pats as well, come playoff time, he seems to focus and turn it on, until he doesn't, this will be my take.


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