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MahomesMagic 01-16-2025 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17913198)
Goff isn't much better in Detroit than he was in LA. In fact two of his top 3 scoring season were as a Ram. I don't think Johnson did THAT much.
Compared to working with Sean McVay?


That's pretty good.


I don't see Goff being this successful with a mediocre play caller.

htismaqe 01-16-2025 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17913230)
Compared to working with Sean McVay?


That's pretty good.


I don't see Goff being this successful with a mediocre play caller.
I'm not saying he's shit or anything. I just wonder what this guy's ego is like. I wouldn't want him for my head coach.

Deberg_1990 01-16-2025 05:15 PM
Sounds like the next Josh McDaniels. Remember how sexy he was about 14-15 years ago?

Eureka 01-16-2025 07:55 PM
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I saw someone earlier mention that a negative against the Raiders is that is a cluster**** organization. You mention that someone would be crazy to take the job because of Mark Davis.

Look at the other openings, which isn't a cluster**** with huge question marks in ownership and administration? Pats is filled.

Jets stuck with Rogers or have no QB. A worse owner than Davis.

Jaguars have a worse owner and a GM everyone hates

Dallas has Jerry Jones and are stuck with Dak's contract.

Bears have a front office is complete disarray where no one trusts each other and everyone is looking over their shoulder.

The Saints are in salary cap hell. I mean true hell not a couple of cuts and restructures and we are good. They are in, we can't sign anyone mediocre unless we cut some good players kind of hell. Plus their QB situation I would speculate is worse than ours.
Maybe, the Raiders do make sense for a team to be built from the ground up and aren't the worst landing spot for Johnson to get his shot at being a coach.

SHOWTIME 01-17-2025 02:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">���������������� ����������:<br>We are hearing the Vegas offer for HC Ben Johnson beats Andy Reid&#39;s current deal. <br><br>It would reportedly be the biggest coaching deal in NFL history. <a href="https://t.co/D3fodKKV3j">pic.twitter.com/D3fodKKV3j</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1880332824827584894?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 01-17-2025 02:56 PM
This is great. Pay him a fortune, you're still the Raiders

PHOG 01-17-2025 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17914304)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">���������������� ����������:<br>We are hearing the Vegas offer for HC Ben Johnson beats Andy Reid&#39;s current deal. <br><br>It would reportedly be the biggest coaching deal in NFL history. <a href="https://t.co/D3fodKKV3j">pic.twitter.com/D3fodKKV3j</a></p>&mdash; NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLNotify/status/1880332824827584894?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Was probably necessary to get him to even consider going to the same division as Reid, Harbaugh, and to a lesser extent, Payton.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17911994)
Oh...it's Florio?

Get the **** outta here, then...

Wake me one someone who knows his ass from a hole in the ground has something to say.
The lesson, as ever, is that Mike Florio is a ****ing hack.

staylor26 01-20-2025 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17911984)
Still pure speculation. Still not buying it. There's a reason he's still the overwhelming favorite to be the Bears HC, which makes more sense.

Also, Florio has zero sources.
.

Chris Meck 01-20-2025 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17913303)
Sounds like the next Josh McDaniels. Remember how sexy he was about 14-15 years ago?
Every single front office person and coach from the Patriots dynasty has been a complete and utter failure...except Tom Brady.

Every single one.

The answer for who's responsible for that run is clear.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17926027)
Every single front office person and coach from the Patriots dynasty has been a complete and utter failure...except Tom Brady.

Every single one.

The answer for who's responsible for that run is clear.
I do think Brian Flores might actually have some coaching chops. He'll likely get another shot at the big chair some day.

And of course Vrabel is a solid coach, but he was never a coach on the BB staff, IIRC. Played for him, but didn't coach for him (if he did, it was a position coach not coordinator).

But yeah, it ain't much of a batting average.

dlphg9 01-20-2025 06:45 PM
****ing Florio is a joke of a lesbian.

Pepe Silvia 01-20-2025 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17926134)
****ing Florio is a joke of a lesbian.
He and Sean Payton are huge lesbians.

Buehler445 01-20-2025 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17926041)
I do think Brian Flores might actually have some coaching chops. He'll likely get another shot at the big chair some day.

And of course Vrabel is a solid coach, but he was never a coach on the BB staff, IIRC. Played for him, but didn't coach for him (if he did, it was a position coach not coordinator).

But yeah, it ain't much of a batting average.
Nah. What he did to Tua - labeling him the “starter” then pull him and hope for Fitzmagic when there is any leverage in the game at all should be a death penalty for any head coaching opportunity for perpetuity.

DC, sure. Fire away. HC, no way.

dlphg9 01-20-2025 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17926439)
Nah. What he did to Tua - labeling him the “starter” then pull him and hope for Fitzmagic when there is any leverage in the game at all should be a death penalty for any head coaching opportunity for perpetuity.

DC, sure. Fire away. HC, no way.
It was far more than that. He treated Tua like trash and went well beyond the normal being negative to get the most out of a guy.

He's a psycho.


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