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OKchiefs 02-10-2025 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17962311)
The Chiefs are currently paying 3 players on the OL.

Joe Thuney - excellent and worth the money. Got exposed and worked last night (there's a reason he is not a LT and it showed in the way he got dominated by a long DE).

Creed Humphrey - excellent and worth the money. Best C in football.

Jawan Taylor - had some struggles last night but was good in pass protection during the Super Bowl run last year and in the run to the Super Bowl this year.

The other two spots have been cheap bandaids.

There's space between "Veach sucks" and "dang it, that didn't quite work out." Which is where we should all be living.

I have a hard time accepting "Veach failed" when the approach since Fisher went down has been to take swing after swing.

He traded a 1st for an established, younger vet and then tried to sign him long-term. Didn't work for the player, he moved on, and honestly it was for the best. (That was also an atrocious T draft, so the 1st they shipped out for him can't be squabbled over too much, especially considering the Chiefs got a pick back that was used to take a 4-year starter in Nick Bolton).

When that T walked, the Chiefs pivoted to replacing him by giving that money to the best available pass-blocking T on the market. He hasn't performed to expectations, primarily in the penalties area. Getting targeted on national TV by Cris Collinsworth put a target on his back that he hasn't shaken.
How was that an atrocious T draft when Darrisaw was taken at 23 and is a top 5-10 LT when healthy?

htismaqe 02-10-2025 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962319)
How was that an atrocious T draft when Darrisaw was taken at 23 and is a top 5-10 LT when healthy?
When healthy? That's one hell of a qualifier. Kind of disingenuous actually.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-10-2025 09:09 AM
Honestly, I don't want to hear shit about the salary cap when discussing the left tackle situation. We're well past that point, we've tried to do it the right way, it's time to just bite the bullet and do what needs to be done. The Eagles managed to put a freaking dream team around Hurts after making him the highest player in the NFL, the Chiefs can kick some damn money down the road and sign a freaking NFL caliber left tackle. It's not as hard as some of you like to make it out to be.

I'm pretty sick of watching them humiliate themselves on the biggest stage while wasting the best QB on the planet by having to make him a damn game manager. Enough is enough with this shit. If they don't go balls deep on someone this offseason, I'll be utterly shocked. That was a devastating performance for this franchise and it's the SECOND GODDAMN TIME this has happened. I hope Clark steps in and tells them to never, EVER let it happen again, no matter what the cost.

OKchiefs 02-10-2025 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17962320)
When healthy? That's one hell of a qualifier. Kind of disingenuous actually.
He’s been healthy more often than not, this year was his first serious injury that kept him out much of the season. I’d take him at LT in a heartbeat.

OKchiefs 02-10-2025 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17962324)
Honestly, I don't want to hear shit about the salary cap when discussing the left tackle situation. We're well past that point, we've tried to do it the right way, it's time to just bite the bullet and do what needs to be done. The Eagles managed to put a freaking dream team around Hurts after making him the highest player in the NFL, the Chiefs can kick some damn money down the road and sign a freaking NFL caliber left tackle. It's not as hard as some of you like to make it out to be.

I'm pretty sick of watching them humiliate themselves on the biggest stage while wasting the best QB on the planet by having to make him a damn game manager. Enough is enough with this shit. If they don't go balls deep on someone this offseason, I'll be utterly shocked. That was a devastating performance for this franchise and it's the SECOND GODDAMN TIME this has happened. I hope Clark steps in and tells them to never, EVER let it happen again, no matter what the cost.
Clark is the primary culprit as to why they don’t manipulate the cap more. As far as NFL owners are concerned he’s a cheap ass.

duncan_idaho 02-10-2025 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962319)
How was that an atrocious T draft when Darrisaw was taken at 23 and is a top 5-10 LT when healthy?
Look at the 6 "OTs" taken after Darrisaw. None has worked out as a T in the pros. 1/2 haven't even worked as Gs. That's what I'm referencing.

In hindsight, would it have been cool to go get Darrisaw? Yeah. And crow advocated hard for that.

I don't think it makes sense to assume the Chiefs WEREN'T checking around to see how much they could move up. We've seen them move up for their guys when they can.

OKchiefs 02-10-2025 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17962339)
Look at the 6 "OTs" taken after Darrisaw. None has worked out as a T in the pros. 1/2 haven't even worked as Gs. That's what I'm referencing.

In hindsight, would it have been cool to go get Darrisaw? Yeah. And crow advocated hard for that.

I don't think it makes sense to assume the Chiefs WEREN'T checking around to see how much they could move up. We've seen them move up for their guys when they can.
Is Spencer Brown one of those 6? Because he’s one of the best RTs in the league now and I feel like he could play LT in a pinch if Buffalo didn’t have Dawkins around.

RunKC 02-10-2025 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962351)
Is Spencer Brown one of those 6? Because he’s one of the best RTs in the league now and I feel like he could play LT in a pinch if Buffalo didn’t have Dawkins around.
No the **** he can’t. Switching to play LT from RT is extremely difficult. Did I mention that Spencer Brown got his ass kicked by Mike ****ing Danna 3 weeks ago?

God you people are just so ****ing dumb. But of course you don’t post most of the year unless the Chiefs lose.

Bc that’s what type of poster you are.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-10-2025 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962330)
Clark is the primary culprit as to why they don’t manipulate the cap more. As far as NFL owners are concerned he’s a cheap ass.
I have definitely wondered about that, hopefully having his franchise get humiliated for the second time on the grandest stage will loosen his pockets a little.

duncan_idaho 02-10-2025 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962351)
Is Spencer Brown one of those 6? Because he’s one of the best RTs in the league now and I feel like he could play LT in a pinch if Buffalo didn’t have Dawkins around.
No, he's not. There were 6 T taken in round 2:
Teven Jenkins
Liam Eichenberg
Walker Little
Jackson Carman
Sam Cosmi
Dillon Radunz

Jalen Mayfield was also taken before Spencer Brown.

Brown was pretty rough early on. Didn't really become a standout until Brady took over and they became a much more run-focused team. I don't see a LT there.

fadeaway 02-10-2025 09:30 AM
Do not draft a LT with any of our first three picks. Yes you can get a talent, but the success rate is so slim, just go in on a position you are more gauranteed with.

maybe swing at a T prospect with a fourth, if it works amazing, if not who tf cares.

that leaves two options, FA or trade.
FA: Jackson? Robinson? Stanley?
Trade: it's going to take 1 first, maybe more

GordonGekko 02-10-2025 09:34 AM
LT is the achilles heel of these Superbowl runs, every effort/expense must be taken by the Chiefs, Clark Hunt, Veach, Andy, to figure it out the best they possibly can this offseason. They really need a super HIGH IQ answer to this issue, twice we've absolutely roached in the Superbowl because we failed to bring pass protection.

Also, we don't just need to acquire a way above average starter at LT, we need to acquire quality depth in case of injury to avoid the Buccaneer Superbowl scenario again.

OKchiefs 02-10-2025 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17962374)
Do not draft a LT with any of our first three picks. Yes you can get a talent, but the success rate is so slim, just go in on a position you are more gauranteed with.

maybe swing at a T prospect with a fourth, if it works amazing, if not who tf cares.

that leaves two options, FA or trade.
FA: Jackson? Robinson? Stanley?
Trade: it's going to take 1 first, maybe more
Trade for who exactly?

And if Jackson, Robinson, or Stanley either are extended or tagged or sign elsewhere? You still do not draft a LT after the shit show we just saw?

The process of drafting a LT is fine, it’s been the execution that’s the issue. The FO needs to do their damn job.

fadeaway 02-10-2025 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17962380)
Trade for who exactly?

And if Jackson, Robinson, or Stanley either are extended or tagged or sign elsewhere? You still do not draft a LT after the shit show we just saw?

The process of drafting a LT is fine, it’s been the execution that’s the issue. The FO needs to do their damn job.
This is what i mean, who can you trade for? Slater is a FA from 2026 but no way would LAC fix our biggest hole.

Go all in on FA. Just fix the issue. We do not need a top 5 LT, we just need a good, solid LT who can offer Mahomes 3 seconds of freedom. If we then hit on a LT in the fourth round, trade the FA and move on with some more rookies.

kccrow 02-10-2025 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fadeaway (Post 17962374)
Do not draft a LT with any of our first three picks. Yes you can get a talent, but the success rate is so slim, just go in on a position you are more gauranteed with.

maybe swing at a T prospect with a fourth, if it works amazing, if not who tf cares.

that leaves two options, FA or trade.
FA: Jackson? Robinson? Stanley?
Trade: it's going to take 1 first, maybe more
Trade for?

The only guy I could fathom being on the market is Braxton Jones from Chicago. I wouldn't hate it but I wouldn't love it either and I wouldn't be giving up a 1st for him.


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