I agree. Even with the two HORRID interceptions he threw today that cost us dearly, I still like him way better than Cassel. I feel like we have a shot to get a drive put together every time we have the ball. That feeling will increase once we get Charles and Moeaki back, along with getting some OL help.

We should definitely do everything in our power to get a QB in the draft, but if we MUST stick with Orton or Cassel for a year...I hope it's Orton.

Yeah, I agree.

I also feel like anytime the protection breaks down, the play is pretty much over.

I hate quarterbacks with lead feet.

A more mobile QB turns those awful intentional groundings into something.

Orton is not the answer, but he's miles ahead of Cassel

Your right. Being the best o line in the game shouldn't be the goal for an OL. Instead he should also be what........ a policeman?

Here's a footnote. Everything I spoke about last week was proven this week. Leaving many of you holding your collective pricks on the subject.

No, not everything you talked about was proven.

Not a damn thing you talked about was proven.

Orton was pressured a handful of times today.

We had over 400 yards of offense, and you want to act like you were right about the offensive line?

Bullshit.

The OL was fine. Not perfect, but they played well enough to win.

Orton screwed the pooch twice, and our FG team screwed it twice more. And Bowe also ****ed that dog. That's 12 points, minimum, we left on the field, and 16 if Bowe catches the ball.

So you hold everyone accountable but the o line (who had a shit load of penalties as well)?

How selective.

Orton may not be the answer, but he's a better answer than Cassel. He can at least be the response until the answer is found.

I'll hold the OL accountable when they are the reason for the loss, i.e. games like Denver earlier this year and Oakland last year.

They played well enough to win today. You don't rack up 400+ yards without solid OL play.

no to Orton .. but he's all we got ... until we see what Stanzi can do .......

mecca?

Since I haven't paid attention to everything you spoke about last week, I don't know what you think was proven this week. You aren't that important.

As to your first paragraph, having the best OL in the league and the highest scoring offense in the league, and the best running game in the league, and whatever other laurels seem to be so important to you didn't mean a goddamn thing. Nothing at all, unless NFL films wants to do a "Missing Rings" documentary about it. There isn't a single player on those teams that wouldn't trade every single offensive record achieved for a championship, or a playoff win for that matter.

So.......should they stop trying to be the best at thier job then?

I cant find where I said it was better than a championship.

Crazyhorse was ashamed of his post. LMAO

Agreed.

Meh....apples to oranges but if I remember correctly, Cassel had 115 yards, 0 TDs, 2 ints, vs Oakland in week 17 last year.

So regardless of how crappy Orton plays...Orton is a less crappier option than Cassel.

Please draft a qb.

It was a dandy, he was saying he was smarter since he didn't have 33k posts.