I thought someone said they had to get to within 5 percent of the cap this year?

Completely depends on the contract. If they were smart, they'd take as much of it in the first two years as possible.

A bunch this year, to get them close enough to carry over the remaining cap space into 2013, then use the rollover primarily on those 3, getting us all the players we coveted, and leaving our future cap situation bright.

They need to be within 5% if they want to carry the remaining balance to next season.

That sounds like the complete opposite of something that Scott Pioli would do.

Who are you guys kidding?


We have a .500 team that competes every Sunday. Why should Clark put out any more money if he is still getting paid?

It's an easy 30 million in his pocket. That's why he overpaid Pioli, so that he can get value.

Well he is gonna have to pay, eventually.

Duh. We HAVE to reach next years floor. Do you really think Pioli will go into next season 30mil below the cap again and be FORCED to pay guys contracts they don't deserve? We have less "dead" money than anyone in the league. Do you think it got that way by Pioli paying guys contracts they don't deserve?

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If Pioli thinks that they are worth the money they are asking, he will pay it. If not, he'll let them walk, ala Shaun Smith. Pioli seems to have been right. Smiths production looks to have dropped by roughly half, whether by fault of his own or not, and Amon Gordon came in and produced for us. Not only him, but Allen Bailey too.

I'm not a huge Pioli fan, but he's done a stellar job thus far.

Not only that, but why on earth would he decide to activate the cap rollover clause in order to give us roughly an extra 20 mil to spend this year?

Because the real ****ing dough comes from a FULL Arrowhead, PO wins, merchandising, etc. etc.
That 30 mil comes back in fold when you put a contender on the field.
Montana took us to the AFC championship game, and the stadium stayed packed until Herm showed up.

Probably a repost so I'll save posting the entire article.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...module=HP11_cp

The REAL dough, for both the NCAA and the NFL, comes from the TV contracts.

Period.

No offense, but you could pretty much replace Pioli with Peterson and this post would sound like 10 year ago all over again.

Peterson wouldn't have upped Charles, Hali and Johnson with plenty of time to spare.

He re-signed quite a few players proactively over his time. Nobody gives him credit for getting Derrick Thomas into the fold early in 1996 because it required letting Neil Smith go...

This is true.

Suitable for a good back up. :thumb:

TV revenue is shared. Stadium Revenue is not like TV revenue.

I wouldn't mind that a bit. It would be a win win situation for all involved. Tghat said, we need to make sure we have a suitable replacement for his position. Either through the draft, FA, or some ascending DE we already have on the roster. Could Baily be that?

Let me repeat this in terms that I understand. This means that only 5% or less can be carried over to next year's salary purse, correct?

Just found this jewel from 2009 from one of our most prestigious posters.
Strange and ironic.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=164

Stadium revenue isn't NEARLY what the TV revenue is.

Stadium revenue is actually shared. Ticket sales are split 60/40, home team gets 60, visitor gets 40. Teams though get to keep all luxury box money for themselves, its not shared.

That's a silly post really. Ten years ago we were up against the cap ceiling in cap hell. Year in, and year out.

I have a theory that the new numbers are coming out so there is no backlash when we don't spend money again. I think the figure is closer to the $63 million than Pioli wants to let on, so he lets the Star have his false numbers.

We were never in "cap hell" under Carl Peterson. We were always right up against it (or they at least would have us believe they were) but we were never in a bad place at all.

And while he never re-signed guys without a certain amount of negative fanfare in the media, he did retain guys (think Priest Holmes) more often then not.

But aren't those numbers supposed to be public?

A little off tangent here but just an observation: Peterson's best FA signings = Dan Saleaumua and Priest Holmes.

Agree?

That dude has be posting as one of these noobs. Has to be.

You don't remember going into the next season 3mil over, having to cut guys after June first to spread the cap hit, then make moves? You don't remember guys restructuring deals in order to help the team? Yes, Carl Petersen did retain guys, and he did lock them up before their current contract had expired. He did so to make the players short term cap number lower by back loading the contracts so that we could have more wiggle room with the cap now. I'm not saying he screwed us, but we were always right up against it, and it hindered us from making any real big splashes to get the one guy who might put us over the top, b/c our team was made up of FA's who we had to pay good money to get us close.

Carls problem was always looking for the quick fixes.

Trade a first round pick for a ****ing coach? why not?

A first for a 36 year old quarterback? sure

A first for a 37 year old quarterback? sure

In almost 20 years, NEVER ONCE drafted a quarterback in the first round.

This team will NEVER learn.

Yes, we were always up against it. But we were never in a "fire sale" situation under Carl.

Whether he did so for short-term gain or not is really irrelevant. He retained his guys. (But as I already mentioned, HE never did it quickly and quietly - Pioli should get some credit for the way he handled Hali, Flowers, DJ, etc.)

As for "making a splash" did you forget Chester McGlockton? Shawn Barber was the very first player signed in free agency that year and even though his impact wasn't what many hoped, he was one of the biggest name LBs available. There's Derrick Alexander, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana, and more. Carl gets mis-characterized an awful lot.

Jason La Canfora‏ @ JasonLaCanfora Official 2012 salary cap numbers set to be released to teams by Friday Will be close to the $120M from '11

What number have we been basing it off? Do we have more or less cap room now with this number?

Yes.

Been based off of 120 million. Could go up slightly, but not down.

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And Kansas City Chiefs fans should know they only have $32.2 million in cap space because of Bowe.

Only.

Should be enough to sign Manning and two other quality FA's.

Pioli was implying it was in the 20's 2 weeks ago. Wonder if he even knows

How are the draftees paid? Is it a separate pool?

And we'll be sitting on that much money NEXT year as well.

Got that wrong. CLark will be sitting in his new business jet

Anybody get the sense that next year when the league minimum goes in place, the Chiefs are going to be $.03 over that minimum?