This is just sad. No other words for it. What a horrible year to be a chiefs fan. My thoughts go out to you all, the family, those who witnessed it and especially the baby.

I am sure they are still working on a decision but right now proceed as normal. If the players have to turn around and go back to Charlotte it's not a big deal at this point.

You decided to come into this thread and posted personal insults for no reason first. You need to check your internet bully and STFU.

He's a murderer and selfish prick. Doesn't matter how he got there. He's still a murderer and a selfish prick.

Just awful.

Alot of batshit crazy people in here.

Oh wow.

The mental toll on these guys is crazy.

You just never really know what is going on with someone.

This.

I have heard the name of Jesus mentioned in this thread.

Perhaps some of you all, should push back from the football table just a wee bit, and ponder the meaning and purpose of your lives.

Sobering, troubling, and shocking to say the least.

My condolences and heart felt grief to the families and loved ones involved in this tragedy.

I don't know enough to agree or disagree. I'm just keeping it as a consideration. Plenty of time to judge the facts when they are out there.

/BRC

I was having a good morning until I just logged online and saw this. Brutal. No words. There's no need for armchair psychology or to act like you're a badass who doesn't care. This is sad any way you cut it, and the facts will come out.

Beyond asinine. Batshit crazy. JFC people are insane.

Got drunk off drugs?
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Sports 810 radio has Belcher's picture on it's home page

I think that, along with not passing judgment on players and/or coaches, we shouldn't pass judgment on each other either. Some outlandish things being said here for sure, but people are kind of shocked and everyone processes information differently. Just let people say their peace and move on. Nothing that ANY of us thinks matters right now. Everything is just speculation until all of the facts are put together by the professionals.

Jack Harry was intimating that Pioli was trying to help Belcher. Knowing how much Harry hates Pioli I don't think that he'd be spinning for him at all.

I think this is going to big a huge wake up call to the local media haters and many fans.

From the Don Banks SI Article

:facepalm:

JFC. The man is dead, Don. The least you could do is get your information straight, you ****ing idiot

:spock:

The league should really reschedule the game.

I don't know since I'm not in their shoes. The dancing boys didn't appear too stressed the other day, at least not too me. You're the one claiming certainty. I have no idea as to whether the individual players' stress levels increased as a result of the fan movement, and neither do you.

For all you know Belcher had much bigger problems and didn't pay the SOC stuff even a single thought. How could you possibly know? Shit, maybe some of them liked it?

Go find the nearest tall bridge and throw yourself off of it. JFC

The Hunts could adopt the child.

This is awful. Wow.

I am not blaming the movement for this incident. I am not blaming Pioli for this incident. The only person actually at fault for this horrible tragedy is Belcher. He had issues FAR deeper than a stressful work environment, and something bad was bound to happen eventually.

I'm just saying that the huge combination of negative things happening around Arrowhead may have contributed in some small fashion to this happening when and how it did, and it makes my previous outrage and the team and its leadership seem shallow in hindsight. Those are my personal feelings on the matter, and if you disagree, that's entirely understandable. What I don't understand is the anger directed towards me.

I can't even describe how stunned and horrified I am at the news.

Human nature says cancel the game

Of course he was trying to help the kid. Are people this stupid? What do you think he was doing, giving him keys to the roof access so he could jump off Arrowhead??

Go **** yourself

In what way?

Just knowing that its a murder-suicide without any other details, we know enough to condemn him. If people want to pray on it, they should pray for those he hurt. Jovan Belcher should not be memorialized tomorrow.

You obviously should refrain from speculating. The fact that there was an unharmed witness actually lends more to the theory that it was passion/accident than pre-meditated.

Fece just blocked me on facebook after declaring his podcasts are over. All I did was post on COnnie Jo's status claiming Belcher was a good hearted man, that good hearted men dont kill people. NO MATTER WHAT happens.

Another thread ruined by a ****ing slampig whore Denise. Someone who pops up here for no reason other than to spew her ****ing menopausal rants.

You're the most insufferable pig to walk the earth.

I don't think this will effect anyone's opinion of Pioli in a football GM sense. You are a ****ing idiot
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And I would agree rescheduling the game would probably be a good idea... but Goodell probably won't let it happen. I do think these guys will want to get back to football but to do it 24 hours after this happened is brutal.

This is unbearably sad.

Why? This wasn't a reasonably foreseeable event. Pioli is still a shitty GM. The team is still awful.

I think you're desperate to connect this horrible event to other things that you don't like.

Please shut up.

that's just tragic. That poor kid, hopefully they have good grand parents or family. Very sad.

Well done, CBS Sports.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9Cz-4aCEAEJpKq.jpg:large

On Fox News as well

Holy shit

Wow

True.

I really don't have words.

Can we please ban Denise already?

Pioli may be a prick of a GM, but he's a human being and I'm sure he tried to help Jovan.

Jesus ****ing christ.

Wake up call? WTF are you talking about?

Chilling timeline.



Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Chiefs trying to organize meetings, prepare for game, and deal with this horrific turn of events.

Chiefs are shocked, Belcher had no history of anything like this, seen as a good kid, close to Crennel. he recently had child w/girlfriend..

The player shot himself in front of team facility. again police not yet confirmed it was Belcher but multiple sources say it was...


Snapped said Pioli and Crennel were talking to player, he thanked them and then officer on scene heard gunshot as he got out of car...


the victim died a short time later. At 8:10 call of armed suspect marching that description in parking lot at Arrowhead practice facility...


Officer Snapp said police called at 7:50am to 5400 block Chrysler Ave., were told a current Chief had shot his girlfriend "multiple times"..

of the player yet to allow time for family notification but team sources say it was LB Jovan Belcher, as reported.


KCPD say the player thanked both men before taking his life, and that Pioli and Crennel did not feel threatened. KCPD not revealing identity


KCPD Officer Darin Snapp confirms GM Scott Pioli and Coach Romeo Crennel were outside team facility at the time Chiefs player killed himself


The team was moved to Arrowhead Stadium in the wake of the incident. more details forthcoming at @CBSSports .


Chief LB Jovian Belcher was involved in a shooting involving at least one other person outside the team's facility today, source said...

How long do you give? Make it a Monday night double header? Wait until after the funerals?

Seeing the pictures just drives it home... Damn

can someone just ban her from this thread
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The furthest it could be pushed back is Monday

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 9167074) I think that, along with not passing judgment on players and/or coaches, we shouldn't pass judgment on each other either. Some outlandish things being said here for sure, but people are kind of shocked and everyone processes information differently. Just let people say their peace and move on. Nothing that ANY of us thinks matters right now. Everything is just speculation until all of the facts are put together by the professionals.

Quoted for truth.

I feel for Pioli the guy. He's going to have nightmares about this for years. Nobody should have to go through that.

I still don't care for Pioli the general manager, and I don't see that ever changing. But, that's really not important right now. So kindly get your ass down off your soapbox and stop using this tradgedy as an excuse to white knight Pioli.

You don't like the SOC movement. We get it. Nobody cares.

Oh for ****'s sake.

Let that go...

A very sad event, i have no words and cant imagine what the chiefs are gng through.

And maybe he got a parking ticket and that pissed him off. Doesn't mean the guy that wrote the ticket was responsible for what happened.

Agreed. Especially a guy Like Belcher who wasn't a star. Every week he's in danger of losing his job.

Sad situation for all involved. I refuse to pass judgement until we have more information. RIP....
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My prayers go out to her family. What a horrible season this has been for all of us. Just awful.

I am simply numbed and saddened by this. Don't know what to say but that I feel for the family and hope they find the strength in prayer and each other to get over this.

On this we agree. Pioli's job performance and him witnessing a violent selfish act are totally separate things.

ROFL

Well, just watching the local media this morning. Jack Harry seemed down right rattled and a tad remorseful. Their morning anchor saying OUT LOUD (how dare she) that these players need support and they aren't getting it.

Pioli and Crennel will never fully recover from this.

Damn, that is ****ed up.

Any word on the motive?

Holy ****.

I posted this earlier, and I'm not clear why this isn't possbile.

Push the game to the Thursday after the final MNF game of the season. The one just before Wildcard Weekend.

Neither team is playing the next Saturday.

This times eternity!!! How the fuck the worthless gash ever made it through the 9/11 days with out being banned is beyond me. It is way past time to do away with her. She brings nothing of value to the board.

You are seriously a worthless human being.

Well if he did try to talk some sense into Belcher knowing he had a gun and was working to save one of his players lives then in MY book his job as a human being trumps his shitty job as GM.

Stop trying to combine Pioli personally and professionally. He may be a really nice and caring guy, but he can't run a football franchise for shit.

Also, people trying to say the Chiefs on the field performance had anything to do with a crime of passion are ****ing braindead.

Sad, sad day in KC. Prayers for his family, his girlfriend's family, and especially his child.

this is dumb. why?

Your personal attacks do a lot to improve your credibility. Not.

The only thing I claimed to be "certain" of was the possibility of the environment at Arrowhead being one of many things that caused him to snap. I haven't claimed to be any more positive about his real motivations than you or anybody else in this thread. If you got that impression from my previous posts, then there's been a miscommunication.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/01...#storylink=cpy
**** each and everyone of you who made a comment with zero ****ing evidence assuming that Pioli wasn't trying to prevent the situation from escalating.

Just crazy news.

I can only think of a few reasons this would happen....

His girlfriend was trying to leave him

He found out the baby wasn't his

He was bipolar and on some sort of anti-depressant

Wow, I am glad to hear that the child was not harmed.
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You ****ers voted to keep her.

Enjoy...

This is gonna sound lame to most but fantasy football is too big, too much of a cash cow...the furthest this game goes is Monday

I'm not banned because I don't break the rules. Posting opinions you don't like is not a bannable offense. USE THE FREAKING IGNORE BUTTON.

Denise is trying to blame it on the fans LMAO

What a fat twat.