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Hootie 03-02-2013 10:42 PM

lol

I'm pretty sure you could go throw every one of Alex Smith's throws and find 5 throws just like that.

My ****ing God people. Give me a break. I loved Trent Green.

I've consistently said I see Alex Smith being somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green.

Hammock Parties 03-02-2013 10:43 PM

Sure, Alex Smith can run the Vermeil offense!

http://i.imgur.com/BBtjftw.gif

Hootie 03-02-2013 10:44 PM

lolololol

This is great.

now post 5 checkdown passes by Alex Smith to further prove your point

Hammock Parties 03-02-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9458989)
lolololol

This is great.

now post 5 checkdown passes by Alex Smith to further prove your point

Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

Messier 03-02-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459031)
Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

Is Cassel better?

hometeam 03-02-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9459043)
Is Cassel And two second round draft picks better?

FYP

Messier 03-02-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9459050)
Stupidly FYP

FYP

Hammock Parties 03-02-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9459043)
Is Cassel better?

Overall, no.

In 2010, yes.

Alex Smith has to surpass what he did in SF here. By a large margin.

It's scary as hell to think that Cassel was better at throwing the ball down the field in 2010 than Alex Smith has ever been.

Messier 03-02-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459084)
Overall, no.

In 2010, yes.

Alex Smith has to surpass what he did in SF here. By a large margin.

It's scary as hell to think that Cassel was better at throwing the ball down the field in 2010 than Alex Smith has ever been.

I'll agree Smith must build on what he's already done. He'll be throwing more here.

Fat Elvis 03-02-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459031)
Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.



http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/05...-deep-threats/

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THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)

(From Pro Football Focus)

AARON RODGERS, Packers (16 games): 129.1 QB rating

33 of 66, 1,264 yards, 14 TD, 1 INT

MATT SCHAUB, Texans (10 games): 125.3

14 of 37, 499 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT

TONY ROMO, Cowboys (16 games): 123.8

32 of 61, 1,166 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT

ALEX SMITH, 49ers (18 games): 111.4

21 of 51, 723 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT

Note: In 2010, Smith completed 9 of 36 passes for 316 yards with two touchdowns and three interceptions on throws of 20-plus yards (47.5 rating).

MATTHEW STAFFORD, Lions (17 games): 107.8

34 of 83, 1,187, 12 TD, 4 INT

DREW BREES, Saints (18 games): 107.3

44 of 86, 1,187 yards, 20 TD, 6 INT

ELI MANNING, Giants (20 games): 103.2

49 of 123, 1,675 yards, 15 TD, 7 INT

CAM NEWTON, Panthers (16 games): 92.6

33 of 89, 1,149 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT

PHILIP RIVERS, Chargers (16 games): 91.4

28 of 75 935 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT

TOM BRADY, Patriots (19 games): 87.7

23 of 73, 746 yards, 10 TD, 4 INT

JOE FLACCO, Ravens (18 games): 81.8

25 of 88, 816 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT

BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Steelers (16 games): 77.5

24 of 75, 818 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT

MICHAEL VICK, Eagles (13 games): 77.2

24 of 58, 769 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT

JAY CUTLER, Bears (10 games): 77.0

14 of 37, 425 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT

MATT RYAN, Falcons (17 games): 69.3

16 of 63, 518 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT
It is statistically proven that when he did throw it past 20 yards, he did it better than most QBs in the league.....

Hammock Parties 03-02-2013 11:29 PM

Now ask yourself why he doesn't do it more.

Because throwing it less down the field than anyone else in the league (save Ponder) isn't an attractive quality.

Kaepernick 03-03-2013 12:33 AM

I think Alex hasn't been the same since his 2007 shoulder injury and surgery. Whether it is physical or mental, I don't think he has been the same.

Here are highlights from 2006, before the shoulder injury. He throws a lot flatter and faster than today. He seems to have every bit the arm strength Trent Green shows in the highlights above.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KX-1RoWiJk8?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mav 03-03-2013 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459116)
Now ask yourself why he doesn't do it more.

Because throwing it less down the field than anyone else in the league (save Ponder) isn't an attractive quality.

Well, you just name two of the guys that have the best running games in football. So it goes to reason doesnt it that if Alex Smith is throwing less than other qbs, obviously hes going to throw DEEP less?

cdcox 03-03-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9459248)
I think Alex hasn't been the same since his 2007 shoulder injury and surgery. Whether it is physical or mental, I don't think he has been the same.

Here are highlights from 2006, before the shoulder injury. He throws a lot flatter and faster than today. He seems to have every bit the arm strength Trent Green shows in the highlights above.

You're right. His arm isn't nearly as lively as it was pre-injury. Even on short passes now he heaves the ball instead of snapping off the pass.

We've bought damaged goods. :doh!:

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9459254)
Well, you just name two of the guys that have the best running games in football. So it goes to reason doesnt it that if Alex Smith is throwing less than other qbs, obviously hes going to throw DEEP less?

If only he could have whipped out that deep throwing ability against the Giants in the playoffs!

Mav 03-03-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459259)
If only he could have whipped out that deep throwing ability against the Giants in the playoffs!

Touche.......Good call.

was not one of his better performances i have to admit.

whoman69 03-03-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen (Post 9457077)
1960! LMAO

1962

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459031)
Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

ALEX will never be a gunslinger type of QB...he is mechanical =one dimensional = stares down receivers = immobile =and thrived in a system of dink an dunk=checkdowns that got players injured=with arguably the most talented team in football EXCEPT for the QB position...this is why the 49ers benched Alex again for the 8th time in favor of yet another QB... this is why the 49ers traded off this dead wood....

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9459031)
Why do I need to prove anything?

Alex Smith checks down MORE THAN MATT CASSEL. He throws deep less than ALMOST ANYONE ELSE.

It's statistically proven.

But continue to ignore it.

You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460317)
You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

Wrong. They started throwing it deep more when Kaepernick came in the game. Almost twice as much.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9460330)
Wrong. They started throwing it deep more when Kaepernick came in the game. Almost twice as much.

You mean when Jim change the O for Kaepernick?

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 01:11 PM

THAT'S MUH QUARTABACK

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/alexsucks13.gif

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9460353)

I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

Direckshun 03-03-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460317)
You do know that the 49ers O doesn't call for a lot of deep balls right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460345)
You mean when Jim change the O for Kaepernick?

What the hell are you arguing?

"The 49ers offense didn't call for a lot of deep balls. It's not Alex's fault."

then

"They started calling for more deep balls when they changed their offense for a QB who can hit deep passes."

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460362)
I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

Well none of those guys have career highs that suck.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9460373)
What the hell are you arguing?

"The 49ers offense didn't call for a lot of deep balls. It's not Alex's fault."

then

"They started calling for more deep balls when they changed their offense for a QB who can hit deep passes."

They change it for a running QB.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460362)
I can show you gifs of all the top QB and your lover Geno making throws like that.What's your point?

The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-03-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9460387)
Well none of those guys have career highs that suck.

Can't wait till Geno is a bust.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9460398)
They change it for a running QB.

Kaep is not a running QB. He employs read-option, WCO. He does occasionally have a run play called for him....Kaep has a cannon arm unlike Smith...

opposition 03-03-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460400)
The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

Name one time Alex has ever gotten benched due to poor play please.

Messier 03-03-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460400)
The point is Alex does it over and over and over again....what does 8 benchings tell the average football joe???

Why didn't he stay benched? And why didn't JH just say, see ya Alex, and start over?

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460421)
Name one time Alex has ever gotten benched due to poor play please.

JT O'Sullivan

Shaun Hill

Troy Smith

Colin Kaepernick

Just off the top of my head....none of these players NONE were put in because of injury (Colin was then turned out to be a better QB Alex was cleared and ready to go)

What say????

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 01:45 PM

i love that there's a 49ers Alexbater named "opposition" LMAO

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460435)
Why didn't he stay benched? And why didn't JH just say, see ya Alex, and start over?

HE did thats why KC has him now!!! Next :clap:

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9460444)
i love that there's a 49ers Alexbater named "opposition" LMAO

WOW thats a new one...Prob just another ALEXSEXUAL and ALEXSCUSE disguised....ROFL

Messier 03-03-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460447)
HE did thats why KC has him now!!! Next :clap:

No he didn't. He made him his starter twice. Why?

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460454)
No he didn't. He made him his starter twice. Why?

Smith was the starter when Harbs took over, once Kaep stepped in Smith rode pine and held clipboard...there was no other starting QB even on the roster at all....which made Smith the obvious choice...once Kaep showed his skill set in the games, Smith was toast=benching #8....next :clap:

opposition 03-03-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460442)
JT O'Sullivan

Shaun Hill

Troy Smith

Colin Kaepernick

Just off the top of my head....none of these players NONE were put in because of injury (Colin was then turned out to be a better QB Alex was cleared and ready to go)

What say????

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie 20 comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

Direckshun 03-03-2013 01:54 PM

It should also be mentioned that the Troy Smith year was during Singletary's year, when it was clear Singletary had no clue what he was doing.

Messier 03-03-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460464)
Smith was the starter when Harbs took over, once Kaep stepped in Smith rode pine and held clipboard...there was no other starting QB even on the roster at all....which made Smith the obvious choice...once Kaep showed his skill set in the games, Smith was toast=benching #8....next :clap:

Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9460472)
It should also be mentioned that the Troy Smith year was during Singletary's year, when it was clear Singletary had no clue what he was doing.

Sure he did, he saw that ALEX SUCKED....

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460478)
Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

There was no one on the roster...hard to say, he would have been released this year due to cap issues and 8.5 million for a noodle arm and Kaep waiting patiently..

Rasputin 03-03-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460467)
Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injuryJTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone)Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back a couple games later.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

Jesus **** that is a lot of injuries. What a ****ing pussy he is. **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

Odds he doesn't finnish the season? I bet he doesn't play a full 16 game season this year due to injury.

Smith2Bench 03-03-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460478)
Why didn't JH go get a "good" QB when he first got there?

And would Smith have been benched without the injury?

He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460467)
Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone)
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back a couple games later.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.

That's what I say. Not once due to poor play.

Almost not quite..the shoulder was good to go, enter Shaun Hill...Sing benched Alex for boring play..JTO Mike Martz was OC and him and Nolin announced JTO starting ,, hey good try....Alex Smith was not concussed..

Colin hard to take him out is far and away a better QB with a higher ceiling than Alex....

So yes Alex was benched to poor play.

Messier 03-03-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460483)
There was no one on the roster...hard to say, he would have been released this year due to cap issues and 8.5 million for a noodle arm and Kaep waiting patiently..

Why not go with the better QB to start the season? What with how poorly Smith played, his weak arm, and poor decision making, he'd be justified.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9460490)
He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

THANKS for clearing this up bro....

Messier 03-03-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9460490)
He did. He went after Matt hasselbeck who went to Titans because he thought Niners line was bad because Smith takes so many sacks.

Then Harbaugh traded up for Kaepernick.

The Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning.

Basically, Smith was a good filler while Harbaugh found his guy and Harbaugh took evrey opportunity to replace Smith.

Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9460487)
Jesus **** that is a lot of injuries. What a ****ing pussy he is. **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

Odds he doesn't finnish the season? I bet he doesn't play a full 16 game season this year due to injury.

THIS he is not mobile in the pocket er or lacks pocket presence and takes sacks like an old lady takes farter starters..

Smith2Bench 03-03-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Land (Post 9460496)
Almost not quite..the shoulder was good to go, enter Shaun Hill...Sing benched Alex for boring play..JTO Mike Martz was OC and him and Nolin announced Troy starting ,, hey good try....Alex Smith was not concussed..

Colin hard to take him out is far and away a better QB with a higher ceiling than Alex....

So yes Alex was benched to poor play.

Pretty much. Singleterry put in Troy Smith in a critical game to make the playoffs.

The Alex Smith Nutt Huggers will say, "hahaha mike singletery, he sucked."

But Alex's best season statstically was with Singleterry before Harbaugh arrived. But that credit goes to Alex Smith and then QB coach Mike Johnson, who was promoted to OC after Singleterry fired Jimmy Raye.

Smith is responsible for 2 coaches and several OCs getting fired.

Smith2Bench 03-03-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460501)
Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

Yes. Kaepernick was playing in spot duties early in the year. I'm not talking about random plays. I'm talking about highly clutch situations in the early parts of game.

For instance, he cane in against the JEts in the redzone when we were tied 0-0 and scored a TD.

This move was coming. It was just a matter of time.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460501)
Was Smith about to get benched this year even without an injury?

MOOT POINT Colin was breathing down his back and it was obvious Alex was a stopgap to begin with =cause the Ninerz had nobody on the roster (and Alex was paid handsomely despite benchins and lack of talent 54 million )other than Kaep that could possibly take over the starting job..it is obvious the FO wanted to see return on the investment so start Smith...bear in mind the Ninerz have talent in all areas.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9460508)
Pretty much. Singleterry put in Troy Smith in a critical game to make the playoffs.

The Alex Smith Nutt Huggers will say, "hahaha mike singletery, he sucked."

But Alex's best season statstically was with Singleterry before Harbaugh arrived. But that credit goes to Alex Smith and then QB coach Mike Johnson, who was promoted to OC after Singleterry fired Jimmy Raye.

Smith is responsible for 2 coaches and several OCs getting fired.

YES crybaby Smith....

Smith2Bench 03-03-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460497)
Why not go with the better QB to start the season? What with how poorly Smith played, his weak arm, and poor decision making, he'd be justified.

Kaep looked bad in the limited time he had last year. Harbaugh experimented with Kaep early in the year when Smith was looking like...well.. Smith...

Kaep played in spots and eventually came in due to injury. Harbaugh was highly bashed for this move, even by the 49er fans. But it was the right one.

Some of the Alexsexual fans are still butt hurt over the move and thought their golden piss boy Smith would lead us to a superbowl titile. How delusional......

opposition 03-03-2013 02:15 PM

Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie. Defense failed to stop brees with 40 seconds left. He had a 20 something point comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.


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Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9460518)
Kaep looked bad in the limited time he had last year. Harbaugh experimented with Kaep early in the year when Smith was looking like...well.. Smith...

Kaep played in spots and eventually came in due to injury. Harbaugh was highly bashed for this move, even by the 49er fans. But it was the right one.

Some of the Alexsexual fans are still butt hurt over the move and thought their golden piss boy Smith would lead us to a superbowl titile. How delusional......

THIS is spot on...dead right....I also think the FO =since they paid in excess of 54 million already =wanted to see if their #1 overall bust at QB would pan out....

So year after year for 8 long dreadful years they started this sissy in hopes he would produce and almost every single year he got his pussy bruised or was benched..again and again and again...

Messier 03-03-2013 02:18 PM

We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460542)
We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

Hopefully for the Chief fans he does...in all reality he is a stop gap at best and it may not be long lived due to his lack of physical ability and talent level...hopefully the FO got a bargain for him..:hmmm:

Smith2Bench 03-03-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460542)
We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

He did. He went from piss poor bad to mediocre.

And it took an elite roster and coaching staff to get there.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith2Bench (Post 9460575)
He did. He went from piss poor bad to mediocre.

And it took an elite roster and coaching staff to get there.

CRAP forgot about the piss poor bad part....the mediocre part....and the elite roster and coaching staff...dang it!!!!

Well maybe he can bottle some really good BAR B QUE sauce and name it K C Alexsauce !!! ROFL

Rasputin 03-03-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460534)
Shaun Hill- Alex had a serious shoulder injury, team was 2-1. Was out the rest of the year. But many pin that season on Alex somehow.
JTO-Alex had a wire sawing into his bone(same injury from year prior. Dr. Andrews admitted surgery didn't fix problem. Obviously when a wire was sawing through the bone) This is preseason, Alex had another surgery to fix the problem and it did. Was out all year.
Troy Smith- Alex had a concussion I think(some injury) and David Carr came in and couldn't even finish the game Alex had the lead in against the Panthers. This was game 5. Thus Troy. Alex retained his job back when healthy. This is the year Alex nearly beat the defending champion Saints in game two. Had a game tying 8, yes the two point conversion, point drive to tie. Defense failed to stop brees with 40 seconds left. He had a 20 something point comeback against the SB champion Packers. Only problem was defense didn't let our offense back onto the field the last 7 minutes of the game. Since he's been back and started the team has been something like 24-8. Since that point I think Alex was one of the winningest Qb's in the NFL since he came back in for Troy.
CK-Concussion, had his team 6-2. Collin Kaepernick is just the better QB. CK made it to the SB. Had a chance to have A POSSIBLE elite, not good/sometimes great QB.


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opposition 03-03-2013 02:49 PM

Do you guys really feel like any Qb can really come in and make a difference? If so then who? By reports it seems like the organization and many others don't see Geno as a true #1 pick. Do you waste the pick just because you need a QB? Or do you draft somebody that you feel makes your team better in the long run?

Alex Smith weather you like it or not is/was the best QB out there. Taking a chance on Alex for what he brings to the table i think is worth the chance. If he doesn't work out then cut him. Make a effort at QB next year, maybe even draft someone this year.

Again you guys were 2-14. It's not like you guys are going to be contenders out of the blue, but with Alex there is at least a chance. You seem to have some talented players, and can add more with the number 1 pick(maybe more via trade), and 3 3rd rounders if I'm not mistaken. You also have free agents you can sign. Not to mention a decent/good HC(Very QB friendly just as Harbaugh).

Can Alex come in and get you guys to the playoffs? I dunno. I do think he can at least come in and lay the foundation for you guys. Be a leader in the locker room and not give games away with turnovers. I personally think he is a great fit, and even if he doesn't work out I think what he adds to a team that needs stability.

Paying a 2nd rounder for at the very least a decent "stop-gap", is a big risk, but at the same time it's worth what he will bring.

Rasputin 03-03-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460621)
Do you guys really feel like any Qb can really come in and make a difference? If so then who? By reports it seems like the organization and many others don't see Geno as a true #1 pick. Do you waste the pick just because you need a QB? Or do you draft somebody that you feel makes your team better in the long run?

Alex Smith weather you like it or not is/was the best QB out there. Taking a chance on Alex for what he brings to the table i think is worth the chance. If he doesn't work out then cut him. Make a effort at QB next year, maybe even draft someone this year.

Again you guys were 2-14. It's not like you guys are going to be contenders out of the blue, but with Alex there is at least a chance. You seem to have some talented players, and can add more with the number 1 pick(maybe more via trade), and 3 3rd rounders if I'm not mistaken. You also have free agents you can sign. Not to mention a decent/good HC(Very QB friendly just as Harbaugh).

Can Alex come in and get you guys to the playoffs? I dunno. I do think he can at least come in and lay the foundation for you guys. Be a leader in the locker room and not give games away with turnovers. I personally think he is a great fit, and even if he doesn't work out I think what he adds to a team that needs stability.

Paying a 2nd rounder for at the very least a decent "stop-gap", is a big risk, but at the same time it's worth what he will bring.

Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

Dixie Land 03-03-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9460641)
Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

Def not a forward thinking move by the FO...maybe use Alex as tradebait??:hmmm:

opposition 03-03-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9460641)
Geno Smith has the greater upside for long term success yes take Geno Smith. It's not hard to see that Geno Smith has the tallent and skills and the want to be great in him. He is coachable and wants to be coached up to maximize his success. I'd take a Geno Smith 10X before a retread like Alex Smith.

What are your feelings of Matt Barkley? You think possibly move back draft him and get your second back is an option?

ChiefsCountry 03-03-2013 03:19 PM

We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

Rasputin 03-03-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by opposition (Post 9460691)
What are your feelings of Matt Barkley? You think possibly move back draft him and get your second back is an option?

I wouldn't complain any if we got Matt Barkley he is not my first choice and if only he wasn't an USC guy. I'd be happy that we took Matt Barkley and be excited too draft a guy who has the accuracy skills that Matt Barkley has.

Am concerned about Matt Barkley shoulder injury.

Ming the Merciless 03-03-2013 03:22 PM

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9460704)
We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Holy shit i am so down

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 03:24 PM

5 offensive coordinator in 5 years!

Setsuna 03-03-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9459043)
Is Cassel better?

Cassel is slightly worse. NOW STFU you piece of refuse!

Rasputin 03-03-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9460704)
We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

Oooh I hope it's the Jetssssss

Messier 03-03-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna (Post 9460723)
Cassel is slightly worse. NOW STFU you piece of refuse!

Go **** yourself. Find a team you like, and root for them asswipe.

Thig Lyfe 03-04-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9460704)
We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

YES PLZ

Dixie Land 03-04-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9460704)
We should all go troll what other team's board picks up Matt Cassel and tell them how wonderful he is.

Just tell them the truth that he sucks....the truth always hurts..!!

Walrus 03-04-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9460542)
We'll see how well he does. He'll get a few years. I watched most of his games last year and thought he turned a corner in his career. Who knows.

:thumb:

Go Chiefs

Thig Lyfe 03-04-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 9463194)
:thumb:

Go Chiefs

**** you.

Walrus 03-04-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9463256)
**** you.

I'm happy. :)

Hammock Parties 03-04-2013 07:31 PM

Alex 3:16

Alex Smith is 3-16 as a starter when asked to throw 35+ times. Andy Reid's Eagles threw the ball 35.7 times per game over the past 4 years.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9464890)
Holy shit.

We went from Cassel 3:16 to Alex 3:16

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Ming the Merciless 03-04-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9464957)
Alex 3:16

Alex Smith is 3-16 as a starter when asked to throw 35+ times. Andy Reid's Eagles threw the ball 35.7 times per game over the past 4 years.

holy shit, not good

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-04-2013 07:48 PM

Alex Smith has won 1 playoff game in 8 season and is awesome, YAY!!!1111111


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