Your solution to all the Chiefs' woes is, "Whatever the GM decides, I'm good with it."

Get an opinion. You don't seem to have a problem with that stuff when it comes to politics.

Hilarious thread. Destined for the CP Hall of Fame.

And Hootie can **** straight off. He rode Geno dick until it became obvious that we weren't taking him.....then Geno was worthless. I don't trust Hootie's evaluation on anyone.

how about you give us a new opinion/prediction? where do you think Geno goes now and when?

too funny

..are people still equating race to ability?

wow. what a bummer.

I'm actually more upset that we wasted those picks on Alex Smith now. We would have been in a position to get a quarterback today, be it Geno or Barkley. And we'll be in the same exact position a year from now, sitting in the second round, saying "wow, there's a really great player available but we gave this pick up for Alex ****ing Smith."

Peyton Manning

This

I do love how Geno didn't go in the 1st round so now he's a horrible ****ing QB.

Welp, I may have to change my avatar.....

Unless you go cheer for the team he ends up with....

i got neg repped to hell for saying he wasn't a top 10 pick a couple of months back

who knows, maybe he wears a Chiefs jersey anyhow later today

So the Jags will (possibly) get the LT that protected the freshman Heisman in the SEC and Geno Smith with their first two picks. Chiefs get a MAC LT and Alex Smith for 3 draft picks. Why are we laughing.

Nah. As hopeless as they are, I like my Chiefs.

that's nice, good to see you can't handle it that you were wrong, suggest you neg rep me some more now for being right in the 1st place...


edit: too late! hehe

The argument that many really good QB's have been drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds lately was used by people skeptical of drafting Geno at 1, and dismissed by the Geno crowd. You can't have it both ways.

Exactly! Too many fans willing to settle for mediocrity can't see this though.

I never neg repped people if they put up legitimate criticisms of Geno's game.

Judging by your rep, I imagine the extent of your football conversation was "lol geno suks"

That's because it was assumed the QBs being drafted in those rounds were the likes of Zac Dysert, Matt Scott, and Landry Jones.

Not Geno Smith and Matt Barkley. Who are BOTH still available.

To everyone but us, and our brilliant "we got a QB in the second round!" alex smith trade. (Dorsey said this last night...)

I LOVE the Fisher pick and seeing how it all went down and who's still available, I'm with ya regarding your QB take.

nope, wrong again, i'll go back and get it if you want, you neg repped me simply because you didn't like my opinion although i did give legitimate reasons or at least a legitimate opinion

my basic stance was that #1 was way over the top for Geno although i think he COULD still be a good or even great QB, i hoped for a trade down that still involved potentially grabbing Geno albeit at a later spot OR as it turned out a trade for another QB as a stop gap for a year or two while we find the franchise QB



alas, no hard feelings bro, it is what it is, i'll delete that other post if you like, just say the word

Your mocks were a who's who of select posters' favorites. Don't act like you had any true opinions of your own.

:spock:

Pest is one of the more knowledgeable posters here. If he didn't have any football opinions, then you may as well say nobody on here does.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m

West Virginia QB Geno Smith has decided to remain in New York and will be attending the draft tonight in Radio City Music Hall.

I still don't think #1 was over the top, because I don't think there's any real talent separation between the players available now and the players drafted in the top 10 yesterday. That's just the kind of draft that this was and is. Which is why not having a 2nd round pick is such a travesty.

Good advice from his PR people there.

Seriously?

wow

You're comparing apples and potatoes. And poorly at that. Geno's new team: http://www.arenafootball.com/

Sounds like his agent gave him the Don Corleone "act like a man!" speech

Looks like this needs to be bumped every 100 posts.

Every team in the league passed on him. Oakland, the Jets, and the Bills passed on him twice. Minnesota, who boast Christian Ponder and Matt Cassel, passed on him three times.

Good. I'm glad he's going to be there today. Shows character.

Thanks for providing this breaking news update.

He's wishy-washy.

What are those stats again about QBs that win SB and being selected in the first round?
A 2cd round QB was not and has not been good enough before. Why should that be good enough now?
Geno is not horrible but his chances of going to and or winning a SB dropped dramaticly now that he is a 2cd round QB. He was not a good enough quality of a QB to be drafted in the 1st.
The desperation for a QB along with stubborn bullheadedness around here has blurred a lot of judgement.

Not when you were going to take your ball and go home, until people with sense were able to talk you into staying.

Done pouting...

Jax prolly called him telling him that he was going to be their pick

Indeed

this is actually the final proof, even these draft dopes passed on him

bottom line is that he just simply isn't a 1st round draft pick, not with what he has showed so far ; that does NOT mean he won't go on to win SBs and have a HOF carreer, would be awesome if he did that in a red jersey and i ain't talking about the Cardinals

Yep, and the one thing I've learned over the years is that NFL teams are never wrong.

We should have postponed the Douche of the Year until after the draft.

I think there could actually be some truth to that.

First round tackles don't win Superbowls. People who draft tackles number 1 overall do it to play it safe and go 8-8, 10-6.

These geno radicals amaze me lol

Yep that is the ONLY reason. It had nothing to do with talent and being tied to a player long term.

Well you are one of the douches I am talking about.

It seems extra douchey today. I guess from one perspective that's people taking their medicine, but it's like nobody knows how to win gracefully anymore.

ya, leaving doesn't show much leadership...

pretty unfrotunate move on his part...that said, he needs to look at the big picture..he'll play in the NFL...

If you believe their coaching staff and the staff's comments in the press, they are committed to Gabbert. That's what they say anyway.

Gabbert has never had any stability around him, they've had one offensive system after another, and they have a lot of holes on defense.

Sure, maybe they didn't expect Geno Fontaine to be available and will decide they can't pass on their next David Garrard, but I'd be a little surprised.

I didn't want Geno, but drafting a left tackle is safe. The Chiefs picked the wrong year to suck.

So not true. It's all timing and building a foundation. Makes more sense to draft a stud Tackle than a medicore QB. If Luck or RGIII type (or even Flacco) would have been there, the Chiefs would have drafted a QB. Now they have folks in place who can protect said QB.

And BTW Michael Oher was a first round Tackle - and the Ravens won the Super Bowl. I bet if you look at the rosters of Super Bowl Champions, many have Tackles drafted in the first round...

He left with two picks left which was Dallas and Baltimore. It was okay to leave the green room at that point.

Well, there is certainly that, AND he also sucks.

How is that Matt Barkley of yours doing? Where was he drafted in the first again?
Those guys on the QB side that wouldn't hear anything. Just wanted to curse and slam deserve a lot of distain for their actions along with the reality of where those QBs will be taken eventually.

THE ALL SUCK AND ARE NOT AND WERE NOT WORTH THE #1 OVERALL.
Not even Tyler Wilson that I originally hoped would be good.

It will be interesting to see whether Gabbert can be salvaged now that he'll have both Joeckel and Monroe protecting him. He always seemed to have a lot of trouble when pressured at Mizzou, but when he has time, he can be pretty impressive.

Yeah they PICKED that year and it is their fault. They have to pay more than there not being a QB worthy of the pick.

I've been reading this forum for about a month or so, and I must say - seems like like all the Geno supporters now are eating serious crow.

I'm a Texan fan myself and have nothing against the Chiefs. The Fisher selection seems solid even though people on here were pouting left and right not to get him. Fans here ARE passionate though and that's terrific.

AR prioritizes OT, DE, and CB along with QB

he obviously just didn't think Geno was the guy and apparently everyone else in the NFL agrees with him

don't be surprised to see a QB taken by AR in this draft, it ain't over yet

eh..that could go either way..you take it like a man and show up confident/unfazed the next day...

You won't get any argument from me on that, I am just summarizing the local press's material on it.

Obviously he hasn't shown much, but he is still only 23.

They outright rejected any and all Tebow talk with strong statements that Gabbert was their guy, and if Gabbert had been in this draft I don't think there is any question he'd have been the top QB selected.

Part of that is because when the QB gurus were and have been proven wrong they never backed off. They didn't learn any grace from being wrong multiple times while spewing hateful stuff all over the planet over and over. So they will not be given any for they do not deserve it. They didn't earn it because they have shown the same vial behavior to all.

Not in the last 12 years. First round left tackles just don't mean you are headed for a superbowl. It is a safe pick to try and keep jobs.

Moreover The first round QB was the reason the Ravens won the superbowl.

That's where our philosophical difference lies. First I don't think Fisher's a stud (or Joeckel or Johnson). I think they're middling prospects available anywhere from 15 to 45 in every draft. Although that's really neither here nor there. Second, I think a 'mediocre,' as you put it, quarterback prospect has more draft value than a good line prospect, because the upside value potential is so much greater. Basically I think positional value is a real and key thing.

Obviously the league disagrees with me, but the league is also slow to change and extremely risk averse. Whereas I have nothing to lose if a player I like doesn't pan out.

And I think everyone is making the same mistake they always make at draft time, judging these picks immediately. You judge these picks in 4 or 5 years, as the players head into their second contracts. If Fisher's an all pro, it turns out that the pick was okay (I don't think I'll ever call it 'great', it's such a meh position to draft #1). If Joeckel or Johnson's a better tackle, then we picked the wrong horse. If Geno never sees the field, the league was right, and if he's a pro bowler, the league was wrong.

Seriously? The entire league passed on him.

This is the same as people rationalizing the Alex Smith trade.

Sure, Flacco playing well down the stretch last year got the Ravens over the hump. All due respect.

But, Baltimore is a solid organization from top to bottom that arguably evaluates talent better than any team in the league, that's why they won the Super Bowl.

They won the superbowl because Flacco went all great QB on them. Something Alex Smith will never be able to do.

and they didn't have to spend 1.1 to get Flacco.

32 GM's and Coaches all agree that Geno wasn't first round worthy

Maybe the Chiefs will pick one in the near future:D

Nope, but they did spend a first rounder on him.

You don't just draft a QB in the first round to say that you have a 1st round QB. There has to be 1st round talent there.

Alex Smith was about a quarter away from playing in a Super Bowl himself. It's not crazy to think he could elevate his game just a bit and win two more games than he won a season or two ago. He has been playing at a fairly high level in the Harbaugh era.

Bullshit. All I ever said was that they shouldn't take him if they weren't sold on him as their franchise guy, and that it was a repeat of 2009 without Stafford, and you asshats were all over me.

And now you look as stupid as you were acting.

SNR is reaching Frankie "broke in mid-air" levels anything to correct.

That season of dump offs and playing in the worst division in football was his ceiling.

You have to contextualize the Akili Smith stuff. It started with Pro Football Weekly's scouting report of him, which was posted on ESPN's site.

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying that part of my rationale for having him at #1 was that I don't think there are any can't-miss star players in this draft (including him). I think if you shift the entire round from yesterday around, just shake it up and let the names fall to whichever team, it wouldn't make any difference at all, meaning I do not think there's very much of a dropoff from the players taken in the top-5 to the players taken at the end of the round. Which is, coincidentally, why I desperately wanted us to trade down (but expected that we couldn't, because...who would anybody trade up to #1 for...). And I think there are still players on the board now who fall into that group as well, including both Geno and Barkley. I think we're going to sorely regret not having that 34th pick, if only because I think it would have tremendous trade value.

BREAKING: Geno Smith's conversation with his agent last night leaked.

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Who are you again?

Geno mafia has a hit on Tomahawk