I used to agree with this sort of thinking. Given our results, I'm starting to lean toward trusting Pinkel's process rather than stars or even offers. I'm not sold it's the best approach since we haven't won the SEC, but we are in the conversation despite our lack of recruiting stars.

If true, I'm sure he'll flip ;)

I'll trust the staff's eye for players.

So every single recruit is a big time pick-up. Got it.

Pretty sure Pinkel could beat aTm with South Lake Carroll's squad.

Pretty sure Mauk is a Stephen McGee clone

They beat out Iowa State, TCU, Tulane and Houston for 2 star LB Sean Weatherspoon.

They beat out Iowa State, Colorado St and and Houston for 2 star LB Michael Sam.

Pretty sure Mauk has thrown more TDs before his Junior year than McGee threw in his career.

Pretty sure they played in completely different systems.

6-2, 220 and has shown well at several combine events in athletic drills. I know he made the top 10 at a Houston combine earlier this year (first time I heard of him in connection to Mizzou).

It's hard to say much about a football player's offers in June before their senior year. Most of the elite guys are identified by that time, but there are a lot of good players still being evaluated at that point.

What system equates 33 TD passes in 4 years with 36 in 2 years?

He's also a guy that changed schools and got lost in the shuffle a bit.

Marquise Doherty drafted by Royals in the 15th round.

Love my royals, but the kid should go to mizzou.

Not what I said at all, but ok.

If the Royals offer him 500k, he actually should sign with them. That's the better long-term move unless he thinks his pro future is much better in football than baseball.

What is the signing bonus for a typical 15th rounder? 500K sounds way high.

As of right now, I don't think there's any risk of him leaving Mizzou, unless a scenario like Duncan's takes place.

It's 100K, but the draft works like this now:

Rounds 1-10: Every pick has a slot value. Each team's picks in this round are totaled up to form a bonus pool.
Round 11-40: Each pick has a max signing value of $100k. Anything over that signing bonus must be counted as part of the team's bonus pool.

If you do not sign a player in rounds 1-10, you lose that slot's money from your bonus pool. So, basically, teams do not draft tough signs in the first 10 rounds. They wait until rounds 11-40 and then steal money from the pool to sign those kids.

Each of the Royals 5-10 picks are guys who can likely be signed for underslot value. It's possible KC could free up 750k-1,000,000 of pool money (including round 2 pick Josh Staumont, who likely signs for about 1/2 of slot).

They'll need some of that to sign Nolan Watson, the comp. pick for Shields. But they could end up with enough left over to make either Doherty or 11th round pick Ben Johnson (UT, jr.) an offer that convinces them to sign.

3* offensive guard Dylan Powell commits to the Purdue. He was a huge Mizzou fan and really wanted to be a Tiger. He never got an offer, though.

The Cards zagged the trend this year.

They took guys in 9 and 10 that have been obvious 11th round 'tough sign' guys in years past. The thought process, as I see it anyway, is pretty clever. I think they knew that they weren't going to get a stab at those guys in the 11th picking at the back of the round, especially not with the Astros being so aggressive in how they target those rounds. They got a good Comp! pick and commensurate salary slot, as well as the extra 3rd rounder from losing Megill last year so the Cards have a little money to play with in the top 10, not to mention permission from ownership to pay the tax on the 5% overage that doesn't cost them draft picks.

So they took those guys hoping that they'd maybe get one of them locked up (I'm thinking they like Kep Brown a lot).

It's bold and in my mind a pretty sharp strategy.

lolz, trying for the royals thread? intriguing nonetheless

Per PowerMizzou, 2016 offensive lineman Mackenzie Nworah has committed to Missouri.

Updated OP with all 2016 commits in separate spoiler. Stupid **** interface is jamming all the text together, despite me manually entering in spaces. Apologies.

****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****
 

Pinkel is on fire!

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1732900/...s/203971392/v2

Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.

Certainly an under-the-radar type with a projectable frame.

I understand the strategy from this point: the state has a dearth of high-level talent this year. Thus, if you can secure a solid-ish class early, you can focus more resources on the guys who would be better gets.

Basically, "a bird in hand" philosophy. If you go all-in on guys that are lower percentage plays, then you run the risk of having a Kim Anderson recruiting class.

Under-the-radar types are fine, but when just about the entire class so far is that type it's really puzzling to say the least.

I just don't think this recruiting strategy is going to get it done in the SEC.

Maybe it's because the in-state talent sucks this year? Either way, we can't just rely on in-state talent so we have to be able to pull higher end talent from elsewhere.

Why do you think this guy is average? Honest question. A guy I know and trust was raving about him in camp. I don't understand why Mizzou fan isn't thrilled with this commit. I mean, if you do nothing else, watch his film.

It is JUNE. I'd be willing to bet at least 2/3 of these guys pick up more offers as the year goes on.

Other staffs and the recruiting services realize Missouri excels at identifying talent. Rankings and offers follow most "out of the blue" guys Missouri offers.

Seeing big offer lists is great, but our staff's ability to project what guys like this will become is very well established. I'll take another Britt or Morse every time.

24/7 Sports has Newman as our highest rated recruit (with 4 stars). I suppose that will make some on here feel better. Of course, it's still the same kid.

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Saw this on PM...I like it :thumb:

For Father's Day.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/zig...n-fathers-day/

Thank you.

Awesome.

Missouri junior defensive lineman Harold Brantley has been injured in a car wreck, according to KRCG13 reporter Ashley Zavala.

Mizzou Women’s basketball player Maddie Stock was also in the car with Brantley.

Zavala’s Twitter timeline included details and a photo of the accident:


According to the report by Zavala, the car Brantley was driving — a 2000 Chrysler Concorde — traveled off the left side of the road when he overcorrected to the right side. The car then struck a guardrail and overturned.

Brantley is one of the Tigers’ anchors along the defensive line for 2015 after posting a fantastic sophomore season in 2014.

We’ll keep you updated as new information is released about his status.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/miz...ley-car-wreck/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pictures from the crash site of the car Mizzou DL Harold Brantley was driving this afternoon: <a href="http://t.co/z8W3ju8ayM">pic.twitter.com/z8W3ju8ayM</a></p>&mdash; Ashley Zavala (@ZavalaA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZavalaA/status/612748350635569152">June 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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****.

Bitch's new av?

Man I hope he is ok. Per PM, not wearing his seatbelt...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> spokesman, Harold Brantley’s injuries not life threatening. At this point, no more to share, when there is, will pass it on.</p>&mdash; Gabe DeArmond (@GabeDeArmond) <a href="https://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/612792218634424320">June 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Exactly, that sack of shit.

From PowerMizzou:

University of Missouri junior defensive tackle Harold Brantley is in good condition and recovering nicely following surgery performed for injuries he sustained in an automobile accident Sunday afternoon in the Columbia area. We’re pleased to report that the prognosis is very good long-term, and that Harold should be able to make a full physical recovery.


I received the following update this morning from Rex Sharp, Associate Athletic Director for Sports Medicine, and our Head Football Athletic Trainer. Please share this with your readers/listeners/viewers as you see fit:


·The injuries sustained in the accident included a fracture in his lower left leg (tibia), and this was successfully repaired surgically last night...

·Harold also sustained some ligament damage in his left knee which will require surgery at a later date, perhaps within 3-4 weeks…

·Additionally, Harold sustained multiple rib fractures and is naturally pretty sore from those…

·If Harold continues to progress as scheduled, he will be out of ICU Tuesday and moved into a regular room…

·It’s too soon to put a timetable on a planned return to football activities, so we’re going to leave that open and focus all attention on helping Harold recover and get back to full health first. When that information becomes known, we’ll certainly share it with everyone…

·Harold is receiving world-class healthcare from Mizzou team orthopaedists Dr. Pat Smith and Dr. Jim Stannard, in addition to the healthcare team at University Hospital. We are grateful for the multitude of prayers and well wishes from all over the country for both Harold and Maddie Stock, and are very thankful that they are both okay…

Thank-you for your assistance in sharing this with our fans. They are encouraged to share comments at our Facebook page atwww.facebook.com/mutigersdotcom

Sounds to me like Harold will be a part of the 2016 team instead of the 2015 team. That hurts, given our lack of depth on the D-line, but it could make for another outstanding line in 2016.

That's the way we have to look at it. I just hope he is able to make a full recovery.

US 63 is much safer than it used to be. He's lucky he wasn't driving that road 20 years ago. What a death trap it was.

Do not Google broken tibia. Bad pictures appear.

Maty Mauk's dad was diagnosed with colorectal cancer.

http://www.missourinet.com/2015/06/2...keep-coaching/

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...rospect-061515

Nice bump for our newest football recruit.

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(-11) vs S Car
(-10) vs UF
(+8.5) @ UGA
(-6) vs Miss St
(-12) vs BYU
(-2.5) vs UT
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The only line there that makes sense to me is UT.

Also, the Arky game is away.

Wow, he's suddenly a much better prospect! As a 2* recruit, he was a massive reach. Now, as a 4* recruit, he's a HUGE get!

Another low star/offer guy:

http://www.macon.com/2015/06/21/3807...-two.html?rh=1

West Laurens’ Smith elite in two sports, even undecided

BY MICHAEL A. LOUGH
[email protected]e 21, 2015

When Missouri offered West Laurens’ Justin Smith a football scholarship, there’s no doubt fans of the Tigers were a little worried.

When he committed in the middle of January, stories noted that he had not earned a “star” in assorted recruiting ratings, like from ESPN.com or Rivals.

By the time National Signing Day rolled around in early February, despite not having played football since November, stars appeared next to his name, mostly three stars.

Smith was then, and still is, unbothered by the perceived lack of attention. After all, he might’ve been more of a basketball player than football player up until the middle of the fall of 2014.

“I never really worried about stars all that much,” Smith said. “I knew the reason why I didn’t have any.”

Because his summers were filled mostly with playing travel basketball rather than making the summer camp circuit at colleges or competing in assorted 7-on-7 competitions, Smith understood the lack of attention.

“I was out of state and always on the go,” Smith said. “I didn’t really have a chance to go to the ... camps every year. I was always playing basketball. That’s probably the main reason I don’t have any stars or why my recruiting wasn’t as good as it could’ve been.”

There was also a perception that he favored basketball.

Football eased ahead of basketball during the fall, but Smith’s impact in both sports was huge. Throw in a sixth-place finish in the GHSA Class AAAA track and field meet, and it was a pretty full year for The Telegraph’s Selby Buck Athlete of the Year.

Smith was a first-team Georgia Sports Writers Association all-state selection and a second-team All-Middle Georgia receiver last fall, following up with All-Middle Georgia honorable mention in basketball.

Then he finished sixth in the high jump in thE GHSA meet, earning honorable mention All-Middle Georgia in that event.

Competition for the top athlete honor was tight, with male and female multi-sport standouts at Veterans, Fitzgerald, Northside, Jones County, Lamar County and Hawkinsville, among others.

Ironically, Smith’s senior season at West Laurens almost didn’t happen.

Basketball had always had the edge over football for Smith, who didn’t play football as a sophomore and spent summers playing travel basketball. Then suddenly, West Laurens football head coach Stacy Nobles heard last summer that Smith was heading to Hargrave Military Academy, a prep school in Virginia, to focus on improving his basketball skills and his stock.

“We almost didn’t have him,” Nobles said. “For 2- 1/2 weeks, he was gone.”

And then he was back.

“He came back in town and talked to me and (basketball head coach O.J.) Hall. ‘I’ve decided to stay here at West Laurens and finish my senior year with my friends and see where the football and basketball thing can go.’ ” Nobles said.

That certainly paid off for Smith and West Laurens.

Smith helped the football team to a 9-4 record, the program’s best since going 10-3 in 1994 and only the fourth nine-win season in its history. The Raiders went 5-1 in GHSA Region 2-AAAA and broke the 30-point mark in five games, matching the total of the previous two seasons.

They won a pair of playoff games before losing 31-13 to St. Pius X on the road in the quarterfinals. It’s a game he’d like to replay.

“We should have jelled a little bit more than we did,” Smith said. “We should have done certain stuff a little bit harder, like running routes or run the ball harder. Just do more.”

Smith finished with 65 catches for 1,038 yards for the resurgent Raiders. Transition time was minimal for Smith to trade in cleats for high-tops.

“As soon as the football season is over with,” Hall said, “(you) step off the field on Friday night and (are) back on the basketball court on Monday.”

Smith said his numbers could have been better, but he thought it best for the team if he pulled back a little bit, which would force more teammates to expand their own game, leading to more success.

Hall said that’s typical Smith.

“He’s very selfless guy,” said Hall, a sentiment echoed by Nobles. “There’s not a selfish bone in his body. He’s always been willing to sacrifice what his abilities allow him to do in order for everybody else around him to be better.”

West Laurens was the No. 2 team out of the region in the playoffs and beat Westover in the first round before losing by 15 to Johnson-Gainesville in the second round.

The 22-8 record was the Raiders’ best since before Smith reached high school.

Then came spring.

Smith reached 6-foot three times in the high jump and 6-4 twice, tying his personal best. He also competed once in the 200 meters and in the 400 and ran a leg in a relay at the state meet.

The focus on football, as well as finishing up his senior year in high school, meant Smith wasn’t on the track every day. Hall can only imagine what the resume would have looked like if Smith had more time for track.

“In between everything that was going on, he would jump on the days that he didn’t have anything else going on in either one of those two sports,” Hall said of Smith’s basketball and football work.

Smith realized that there are substantially fewer 6-7 football players than basketball players, which played a big role in him finally picking football. And that final football game left him wanting more.

“He told me the night we lost to St. Pius that he had made his mind up, that he wanted to play college football,” Nobles said. “I know that made a lot of college recruiters real, real happy. There were a lot of people that didn’t offer Justin, I think, because they weren’t sure what he was going to do.”

Nobles and Hall are convinced that Smith escaped to Missouri under the radar and will be on the radar soon enough. Finally, however, it will be the radar of just one sport.

“I think his upside in football is going to be remarkable, just because he’s going to be playing the game full-time,” Hall said. “He’s going to be in the weight room getting stronger. His route-running is going to get better. I think there are so many things that’s going to be an upside for him in football ...”

Both talk of Smith’s high ceiling on the next level.

“At 6-7, a wide receiver that can power clean 310 pounds and run a 4.5 40, you’re a special player,” Nobles said. “He didn’t reach his potential in high school. (Football) was always a second deal for him and something he almost didn’t do.

“He hadn’t even come close to being the player he can be. He can start reaching for that ceiling now.”

Anybody see the thing about Ondre Pipkins supposedly being asked to quit football by Harbaugh?

Maybe don't commit to Michigan and you wouldn't be dealing with that crap.

Yeah. He ended up being a massive disappointment there. I bet he wishes he could have had four years of coaching under Kuligowski and a coaching staff that treated him like a human being.

UGA is going to have a tough time playing with all the national media packed in their ass.

Just another example of a highly ranked Missouri kid getting stars in his eyes and not having things work out for him in the end.

For every Ezekiel Elliott and Laurence Maroney, there are 5+ Pipkins, Dan Tapkos, Ronnie Wingo Jrs, Nick Pattersons, etc.

Spent the afternoon hanging out with an old tiger back up qb at our country club pool. Any of you guys need a dentist in Columbia, dr Patton is your man. Super guy

You know you're living right.

Titans long-snapper hits hole-in-one, wins barrel of Jack Daniels

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...f-jack-daniels

What's better than hitting a hole-in-one? Hitting a hole-in-one and having someone give you an entire barrel of whiskey for it. Welcome to the dream, Beau Brinkley. The Titans long snapper recently sunk an ace while playing golf and as a result he's going to claim a prize of AN ENTIRE BARREL of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Select.

A whole barrel! Brinkley was playing in a Nashville tournament where Jack was a sponsor, so he knew there were some stakes involved where he could hit a hole-in-one and win a mammoth prize.

But when he stepped up to the 182-yard Par 3 he didn't plan on soaking in whiskey for the next year (or four).

"You could see the flag but you couldn't see the hole," Brinkley told ESPN after hitting the ace. "After I hit it, it felt really good. Probably the most accurate golf shot I've ever hit.

"Walked up there ... I kind of creeped in, saw it and just went crazy. Threw my hat, chest-bumped all my teammates."

A full barrel of whiskey is appromixately 250 bottles (!) of Jack and Brinkley gets to head over to Lynchberg, Tennessee and pick out samples from the Jack Daniels Distillery to claim his barrel.

Rough offseason for Brinkley.

****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****
 

Pinkel on ESPN.

Justin Smith may join University of Missouri coaching staff

After taking a few months to contemplate his future, defensive end Justin Smith told the 49ers that he wouldn’t be returning to the field for the 2015 season.

His next step may not take him too far away from a football team, however. University of Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said at Wednesday’s installment of the SEC media days that Smith may join the team’s coaching staff. Pinkel said that Smith would work with players on conditioning if he does come aboard.

“I think he wants to get involved in the weight room a little bit with our players and help us out,” Pinkel said, via NFL.com. “That would be great if he can do that. He would be a tremendous asset to us. He’s from Jefferson City, the state capital, about 25 miles south of Columbia. He’s going to be living right in Columbia and we’d love to have him come back. I talked to Andy Hill, who recruited him, our quarterback coach, and we’ll see.”

Smith played three years at Missouri before becoming the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...issouri-staff/

Brantley out for the year. We all knew it but it was confirmed by GP yesterday. Said he was lucky to be alive.
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I'm concerned about the 2015 season at this point...

No Brantley and no Loud has me concerned about the DL, which is rather unfortunate considering how good I think the back 7 on D is going to be.

The nice thing, I guess, is that I think Barry Odom is a lot more creative about generating pressure, based on his work at Memphis, and the blitzes they showed in the spring were a lot more effective than anything we've seen at Mizzou under Pinkel (and apparently those were the 'vanilla' looks).

But that DL has gotten thin. I was confident DT would at least be a strength with Brantley, August and Hatley forming a strong top 3. That looks like a tougher gig now.

Depth at DE is now terrifyingly slim. Hopefully Harris and Frazier can give some good production, and they can find at least one bench guy who can produce.

Pair that with concerns about WR and Mauk in general, and it could become a "disappointing" season pretty quickly.

RE: Justin Smith...

I'd expect his "event coordinating" will involve showing up to do some unofficial recruiting work at recruiting events (he's involved, the host of the recruit visits, which allows him to interact with recruits as much as he wants). It's a clever way to get another selling point on staff without making him an official football team staff member.

Similar to what OSU does with Stacey Elliott, only more legit, since he's an actual employee and not a dad (who has all the time in the world off of work to be on-campus and spend hours talking to other recruits and parents).

I'm with you. We are likely going to take a big step back this year. The schedule is kind of strange this year. Nearly every game is winnable, but nearly every game is losable. If we lost to BYU and Arkansas State, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Of course, we could beat both of them and Arkansas and grab at least a share of the East again, and I wouldn't be shocked.

With WR being such a huge question mark, the season could go either way. Personally, I'm expecting a bit of a letdown season. Not a losing season, but I don't expect we'll win the East again. 8 wins.

How many times during games this year will the TV crew talk about Mizzou's D-Line and then show a picture of Brantley's car wreck?

Every game.

This is just the type of shit that happens to this team. You'll probably never see Alabama or Auburn lose one of their best players to an accident right before the season, but it sure as hell happens to us.

Is BYU supposed to be good this year?

I don't know how good they will be, but if Hill is healthy, they're a very dangerous team.

I'm expecting 7-5 this year. The skill positions are as weak as they've been since Gabbert's Junior year, and our DL is now thin and inexperienced.

It just seems like a lot of dominos are falling the wrong way. Some of it is also reaping the rewards from the awful 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes, though.

The DL worries me but Odom will probably institute the 3-4 defense to compensate for the DL losses. WR is another worry too as they are so young & inexperienced.

I predict a 9-3 record thru my black & gold colored glasses.

I would jump for joy with 9-3.

I doubt they ever go to that as a base defense. And they don't have the DL personnel.

Augusta is the only DT they have who fits what you want at the nose in a 34 in the SEC, and he already has stamina issues. AJ Logan has the size but is completely unproven.

Hatley can play one DE, but after that you've got a bunch of light/quick 43-style DEs and not really anyone else who fits the 34 DE spot (maybe Beckner?).

Just not enough depth to run a 34 consistently.

Now, I could see them using some 3-man front looks on passing downs to try to be confusing and mix up pressure... but running it as the base? Nah.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye-...llege-football

1-step box jump for Stribling IV.

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