That the league purposefully rigged this game against us? No.

That there were a handful of awful calls/non-calls against us? Yes

Purposefully rigged the game? Never said that.

Handful? ****ing bullshit.

Rigged to get the Rams the early lead, no doubt about it

Yeah it’s totally not Andy!

The Chiefs average 9 penalties a game and have committed 10 or more penalties in 5 of their 11 games. Basically half of our games have 10 penalties with different ref crews officiating these games LMAO

Couldn’t be Andy huh? It’s a league wide hit job on the Chiefs!

Have you met Blackop by chance?

If the Chargers are within the division title on the Thursday night game...it'll make the Patriots/Rams officiating look legit. Maybe the NFL will create a "nostalgia" crew headed by Triplette....

My biggest issue with it, is how the broadcast and such just gloss over it. Alteast Collinsworth will call them out on it from time to time.

But, can't rock the boat I guess.

We average 9 penalties a game....and somehow we had that in the first ****ing quarter of the Rams game.

The broadcast team definitely had something to say about one of the penalties on the Rams though! I believe it was the helmet to helmet call late in the 4th (that if anything made us score faster leaving more time on the clock).

NFL needs competition in the worst way.

I guess I don’t give a shit about it bc it hasn’t mattered anymore. That would be a death sentence if we still had Alex but no more. We came right back in the 2nd quarter like it was nothing.

We overcame penalties in Denver and barely lost in NE and LA with a chance to win in the end.

Bullshit calls like the Titans game doesn’t matter with Mahomes because we score in the 2nd half.

I feel optimistic. We lost with 2 chances to win or tie. Mahomes ain’t making those mistakes a second time.

They blew another spot in our favor early in the game. It was 3rd and 3 we got a 5 yard penalty and I was still 3rd and 3. All Star officiating!

The guy that gave us the bad spot on the kick return also gave the bad Tyreek spot. He also didn’t call the false starts. Maybe that one guy has some gambling debts or something.

Well, that's a FASCINATING theory...except I heard the NFL fired a guy for a single bad call this year.

If that's the standard, then the guy who gave the bad spots and didn't call the false starts must be doing exactly what the league wants.

Judging by the length of this thread I'm going to assume others noticed the several false starts by the tackle as well as the illegal blocks?

Houston probably had hand prints all over his back from guys hitting him from behind... which is apparently not a penalty now.

Or are we just talking about how the refs spotted the rams a 2 touchdown lead?

All that + Dee Ford getting put in a headlock, Donkeykong Suh's punching Mahomes et al

The only way to put an end to this shit is to win the Super Bowl.

Time to move on.

What about the 2 horrid block in the back penalties? it's like the energizer bunny of shit.

**** that game! I get to a point where I am over it but then I read these threads and my blood gets boiling again. Anybody who doesn't see what was going on in that game is ****ing naïve.

The league doesn't give a shit about the Chargers. Nor do refs usually come out like that against the home team. This game was a very unique situation being LA and all this first responder stuff.

Suckadong Suh punched Mahomes?

The ****!? I didn't see THAT!

Gave him a hammer blow on top of his head/face as he was being tackled. Pretty ****ing blatant.

You have battered fan syndrome/Fish-Cochise


lalalala lalalala, Santa Claus is coming to town, nothing to see here. Just a couple minor errors by the officials lalalalala, lallalala

I think they are the very definition of Haglunds...

The NFL's reply = "So ROFL"

Well, I don't think i'ts a massive conspiracy nor do I think the NFL is 'rigged'.

I think, sometimes, the NFL has results they desire and they have officials pull strings to ensure those results occur.

It's not something that frequently targets the chiefs. I don't think the Chiefs were 'targeted' here.

After the sob story in the pregame, the pining about Goff's firefighter daddy, and all the other emotional ploys caused me to predict the officials would try to prop up the rams, seeing it as the more marketable story.

It was worse than I expected and any time I predict the future It tends to cause me to lend validity to any theory or hypothesis that my prediction was based on. I expected the refs to pull some shit, and it was easily one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen. It could be a coincidence sure.. but geezus that's one HELL of a coincidence. Christ, there were like three penalties on Goff's TD run and this is the THIRD TIME this year the refs have called awful one sided games (pittsburgh, NE, and LA). Bad officiating is more convincing when it's swinging both ways. When it goes one way it's just biased officiating, which should be unacceptable. This crew embarrassed the NFL on Monday. I'm skeptical such one sided officiating was 'accidentally' that biased. It was bad.

Maybe Kansas City just doesn't have enough tragic stories to win the favor of NFL officials!

Maybe we could run a weekly saga of Berry's list of issues that keep him from playing? Might that garner some non-existent unnecessary roughness calls against the opposition?

Again, I'm sure the NFL is reading the rantings of a small market, fly-over team with Hunt as an owner, and ROFLing!

In this context WHO is 'the NFL'? You're talking about it like it's a sentient entity and not just a collection of owners with a commissioner.

KC HAS HAD the favor of officials in the past. It's game to game a lot of times. This time it was "Oh the rams had to train in another state and then had the fires and some of them lost their homes... did you know Goff's dad is a firefighter? What a courageous team!

It's not like the whole NFL is conspiring against the Chiefs dude.

That is what rigged means :hmmm:

During the first 19 minutes of the game, Kansas City was flagged nine times for 92 yards while the Rams were penalized exactly zero times.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...-against-rams/

Yes, the owners with a commissioner. Why do you think I keep saying that this won't end until Hunt ends it? Until he walks into a meeting and says he thinks his family has gone long enough without being the favored franchise, this won't end. If that doesn't work, as a free American man, he can become less of a hermit in the press. IOW, he can do battle in the owners meeting, and out of it if necessary, if they don't make sure the agenda/drama/saga doesn't have the script writers shift the NFL script to favor the Chiefs for a few years. IOW, Hunt needs to become more effective in his silence, or quit being silent.

Then again, I don't think Hunt cares, he's fine being an NPC owner.

No. One game does not make the entire NFL rigged.

To prove that you have to show me that every game is rigged because 'the NFL' encompasses all games played by every team every season.

The NFL thanks you for your support and faith. Lord knows they're counting on it... :clap:

It was in 2000 I believe. I’m talking more crowd noise. We all know arrowhead can be intimidating. Need to bring out the 90s crowd noise

While disgusting, it's sad that fans really don't have any recourse against NFL officials short of not watching anymore. IT'S NOT OK to do that, but if there was something else those asshole idiots could have done (realistically), I'm sure that might not have happened.

But hey, like the Chiefs players and front office took the Steeler and Titan playoff games in stride, some fans (us...) can't even count on the franchise making a stink about bad officiating. At least not in the moment or while it matters.

Absolutely untrue.

FAX

Care to back that up with something that shows me where he made a stink in private or in public?

Nope.

Still untrue, though, Mr. GloryDayz.

FAX

Chiefs two biggest national games were Patriots and Rams...

Their combined offensive penalties were 2 for 15 yards.....15 YARDS in two games. Chiefs got 66% of that on their first offensive snap...

Not very convincing. Well OK then. I'm sticking with he doesn't care.

The NFL calls everything it sees, but only sees what it wants. It's not hard...

So in the first 79 minutes of KCs two biggest, prime-time games (NE/Rams)...Chiefs have 14 penalties for 150 yards vs. zero.

Nothing to see here...

Again, the NFL machine just laughs at KC and their upset fans. #1 Small market. #2 Hunt family...

Yes it does

Did they rig plays to manipulate the outcome? That’s rigged.

Chiefs have committed 10+ penalties in half of their games this season.

Part of the problem is that the Chiefs aren't well disciplined; they are known to commit a lot of penalties so the refs, which were terrible, are going to be looking for an excuse to call them.

The Chiefs had multiple chances to win the game and didn't. The Chiefs have a QB that has started all of 12 games in the NFL and has a record of 10-2 in those games.

Time to let it go, it's over and done. The Chiefs have had a history of losing big games and until they are able to stop committing penalties and take advantage of the opportunities, nothing will change.

Does it make everyone happy to think that the Chiefs are just the redheaded stepchild of the NFL?

First thing my 88 year old aunt harps on our Monday morning game chats.

Is that a form of bias? Is that professional?

And I'm not sure the Chiefs are any more or less disciplined that other teams, I'd argue that their "holding of the tongue" with the officials is very tempered.

Seriously, when Ford or Houston have a defenders arm wrapped around their neck, why no flag? And when there isn't a flag, why aren't they going full-on Tom Brady on the head official?

Yeah Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers look very professional and disciplined as they chew the officials asses lol. They never get penalities called against them.

If the league had a true LA agenda, why are the Chargers 30th in penalties?

Hell if it's just the LA Rams agenda, why is this the first year out of the 3 years they've been in LA they've been higher than 16th in penalties?

A lot of these agendas make no sense when you really look at the numbers. Like the supposed Steelers agenda when they're 31st in the league in penalties.
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Missing a false start on a 3rd and goal that results in a TD..is different than a false start called on 2nd down at the 45 yard line.

The timing and implications of each individual call/non call is more important than quantity.

There were no holding calls in the 2nd half in the Steelers playoff game...until the Chiefs tied it late. Very timely officiating...it's the way it will always be for the Chiefs. This season is no exception.

NFL corporate has made it evident that KC will not get a fairly officiated game in a high stakes atmosphere. I will not be watching KC in the play-offs this year...from Triplette to the Steelers game to the "all-star" crew and the zero penalty NE game.. I wont give the NFL the joy of watching them screw over a small market team for a 3rd straight year. It's coming...and it'll add to long list of new and creative ways to **** the Chiefs. I thought Mahomes would change things...it hasnt. They are just scoring more points...

They threw 9 ****ing flags against zero in the 1st quarter...

It's a coping mechanism.

The writing is on the wall....Monday night wasn't an accident...if anything, it was predictive programming.

I cant watch refs winking that the opposing QB after they blow a crucial play...and send Reid to near stroke level just to get a proper call.

I had optimism to start the year...it's looking like the same old shit though.

It's not...

We just had the NFL sell the public that they were putting a hand-picked crew together to deliver an error-free game.

It turned in the biggest botched contest of the season...and, of course, KC was the negative recipient of it. Just like when Triplette invents a play to kill a sack fumble that has never been called...then retires after the game. Costs KC 3 points...and they lose by 3 points. Or the refs call zero penalties on NE even though there is glaring evidence that there were some at crucial moments.

I realized after the resident Patriot-douche chimed in on the officiating thread...that they have a completely different NFL experience. They went to a SB after the tuck rule was called in their favor and haven't looked back. The NFL always rules in their favor.....just last year the refs let them back in the Jags game. They dont go into a big game expecting to get ****ed by the refs..because it never happens to them.

Chiefs fans are left playing the what if game after it happens over and over and over...and are doing it again right now.

I'm only watching KC in 2018 because Mahomes is setting records...but in the end, nothing has changed. KC is still getting hosed in big games and losing by 3 points...

Tell us again how the league rigged the 2017 playoffs to have Brady face Rodgers in the Superbowl.

That was such a great story. And can you tell us who the league is rigging to be in the Superbowl this year?
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Lol so the refs way of rigging the game was to call 9-0 penalties on the chiefs in the first quarter and then 8 penalties on the Rams to 4 penalties on the chiefs the rest of the game? Shouldn't that be the other way around if they were truly trying to make sure the Rams won the game? Especially after we caught back up/took the lead.
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Keep the faith...NFL is "banking" on it.

As for me...I've seen this movie before and frankly, the NFL product kind of sucks now anyways. I sure some were "enthralled" by the TD fest...but I found it rather monotonous. This isn't the game I enjoyed for 40+ years...it's dumbed-down and feels fake. I dont care how many mouthpieces try to sell me on the "new" NFL...it's lame.

I've been waiting for KC to land the miracle QB for that entire time... and now realize it wasn't the issue. Chiefs haven't had the crushing losses due to anything other than a deliberate agenda...and I've often wondered if it was payback for Dawson burning the mafia to the FBI. Whatever it is..I'm too old to follow this anymore. The NFL became more of an avenue to expose fraud than enjoying the game....the beginning of the Rams game was it for me. They arent even trying to hide it anymore...and Mahomes isn't going to solve it.

Dont hold your breath when the play-offs roll around....if two record setting collapses in 5 years wasn't enough proof along with the Steelers holding call and Triplette making shit up ..maybe this year will end the debate.

I dont want to watch a game where I have to hope the officials "let" the team I root for win because the QB sells Pepsi....that's ****ing stupid and Orwellian (actually Huxley but that topic isn't for this forum).

Dont blame me...blame corporate greed. Maybe the NFL will ultimately achieve it's end game and Darnold pans out. They can have NY/LA SBs for 10 consecutive years...

Cool. I expect you not to comment on any games the rest of the season? Talk about a win/win.
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Clark Hunt is a polished and well educated man. He has proven that time and time again. He has shown proper leadership repeatedly by empowering the people he has hired and letting them do their jobs and then making his wishes known behind closed doors .

If he made the stink in public, it would have negative results both with the NFL and his employees.

I don't believe any of this is on Clark, but may have something to do with the "Kansas City Shuffle" discussed in the book that Nzoner mentioned and profits. I think Randallflagg did a good job of pointing out the marketing that went on Monday night.

I can totally relate to everything you are saying. Time and again I have said that is it, then they hook me in again with new hope. Well, the forward progress call finally did it. First time I have not purchased a commemorative piece of gear, hat or sweatshirt for "winning the division."

Now i just watch it for what it is, entertainment. Knowing the outcome, since we have seen this show repeatedly has allowed me to enjoy the entertainment and it will set you free. It is just a game played for our entertainment and their huge profits.

WWFL....

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How about no, we'll comment all we want.

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Or maybe Clark's a pussy? Or maybe, as I've said, he's fine with the losses because he's not a football guy, but he's pretty-much making stupid mega money anyway?

I can't imagine if he has the least little bit of passion for the game that he could remain silent like he does. Like I've said, the other owners appreciate him fielding a pretty-much NPC team.

We used to bring people on the boat when we went rock fish fishing, not to fish, but to increase the amount we could take. The Hunts are like that ride-along; give them some of the take for the ride along and they're happy.

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Time to move on

How does that fix the problem?

The Chiefs are having a good season, the past is the past. The Chiefs have a QB and the players on offense to overcome bad (or biased, rigged, etc.) referees. The Chiefs have had opportunities to win in all of the heartbreaking losses they have had. If I had one thing to blame it would be the Chiefs themselves; passing in the Colts game when Marcus Allen was tearing them up on the ground, replacing Gannon with GrBac against the Broncos, continued throwing the ball and no deep safety help against the Colts, being unable to score more than 18 points against the Steelers, etc. The Chiefs have had a big hand in all of their losses.

I am not going to let the failures of the past ruin my enjoyment of the Chiefs now.

I'm sure that Clark doesn't care that he's never held the trophy that bears his father's name.

Riiiiight...

It will never be fixed until we win the Super Bowl.

Well if it bothers him it hasn't bothered him enough to say it publicly, or even speak-out publicly about the things that continue to keep others marring his father's name with their fingerprints.

I'm thinking that it bothers him very little. Very very little perhaps. I suspect he's far more interested in the name of the ownership sheet and the cash it pours into his checking account than something etched into some non-soccer trophy.

I think Clark's ambitions/desires, in his own mind's eye, are much bigger than the city of KC and some football fans, his loyalty to football is nothing bigger than the cash if brings him to enable other personal interests.

That will certainly be confirmation that we got a pass for at least one year. Perhaps to use a timely defense against pesky claims that the NFL is rigged and/or favors large market teams (because profits).

I don't know if its funny or scary that you actually believe this.

Like I said earlier, it's a coping mechanism.

Being a loud mouth, in your face owner that is always flapping to the media only appeases the neanderthal fans that drive 4 wd camaros and chew red man tobacco.

It will do nothing but alienate the NFL, the team and employees. It pretty much works this way in the business world as well.

Of course you can. But Blackops is talking about not watching yet we know he will. You talk about others giving the NFL what it wants, but what are you doing if not the same thing by watching?

Do what you want, but acting like others are sheep while you are watching as well seems confusing. If anything, I think it makes less sense that you believe it's rigged and are still invested.

Nope, I'm done. Something clicked after watching the Chargers/Donks game...where they invented an OPI call with :37 seconds left. Instead of letting a team legitimately make a comeback, which is why I watch football....the refs actively attempted to intervene and ruin the game. They were instructed to do this out of greed.

The beginning of of the Rams game was the same thing....and I just realized how lame this is.

I didn't call anyone sheep...it's not the fans fault that the NFL's greed has steered the game in this direction. It's on them...their wings of wax will melt eventually. They are the ones who think the fans are sheep...

Don't get we wrong...I've watched KC for decades. I think football is greatest sport ever created. It's just morphed into something where the officiating is actually more influential than the players. I mean they gave the Raiders 3 plays after time expired...and removed a legit strip/sack in the play-offs. It's been a long time coming...but it's gotten to the point where the NFL is overtly using the officials to get the results they want...and they've set up a system where nobody can actively complain about it without ramifications. The announcers cant, the coaches cant...the players cant. The actual officials are gag-ordered....

So you are done watching? Like if we get to the AFCCG or the SB, you are not watching?

What about the refs? Can they ruin it for you now? Given the chace, they will.

I think there needs to be an investigation on Rams paying off the refs. Blatant missed calls and a wink from a ref. I think there is a conspiracy.

Quit committing stupid penalties and things will change. The bias (unconscious or not) will change. When your team is at the top of the league in penalties per game, the referees are going to keep looking for it. It's like driving a red sports car and complaining about the police giving you speeding tickets.

Only I can choose to ruin my own enjoyment. This might be the last QB that I live to see for the Chiefs, why would I want to ruin that?

Why the **** would ANYONE believe that "the Rams paid off the refs"?

have you been paying attention?

The refs were HANDPICKED by the NFL because these refs call the games the way the NFL wants them called.

The refs have these ear pieces in their ear...The league office in NY watches every single play...and communicates to the refs on the field. There was a Patriots game last year where the league actually stopped play on the field to initiate a replay - the order came from NY.

So, every eye in the football world was watching on Monday Night. Including the league office. The refs had their earpieces in...

If ANYTHING had happened, official-wise, that the league didn't 100% cosign to, they would stop the game to "make it right".

Speak for yourself only.