Me three!!

Tyreek should be suspended but kicked off the team nope. Imagine Hill and Watkins with Hardman and D Rob with Kelce!! Unstoppable

Browns fans are already defensive about the Hunt pickup. They defend it by saying it wasn’t domestic violence and he was never charged, which is actually true. But a lot of those same Browns fans defending him were probably calling for his head the moment that video dropped. Violence isn’t a laughing matter but I can’t help but to laugh at the hypocrisy.

Make no mistake...this ABSOLUTELY carries weight with the Chiefs...Hill is just that talented.

He's the scariest player in the NFL...they were about to make him the highest paid WR in history.

You cant just give those players away to other teams....hell, Von Miller likely killed someone. All that will happen in a years time, is everyone will regret letting him go. I dont see too many people, now, happy that Hunt plays for the Browns.

It's the harsh reality of the situation....you may hate him as a person but he's in the business of winning football games. KC doesn't win that Ravens game without him...some will say "this is bigger than football"...it actually isn't because he will still be destroying defenses in the NFL...just for another team.

Literally the point I've made all along (including early on with Hunt).

I would say that I can't believe Chief Fan is stupid/emotional enough to want him cut, but I've met Chief Fan and they clearly are.

Dont disagree with you one bit but "due process" means nothing to GODdell and the NFL anyway....

Now some dust has settled I wonder how this poll would look like if it was started over again? I thought Monday was gonna be a pivotal day as far as Tyreek's future with the Chiefs is concerned. But that day passed without anything happening and then we had the farcical "report" by KC5 yesterday which probably helped Tyreek more than hurt him. And now today we hear the NFL will not be moving to put Ty on the exempt list. If anyone would have told me last Friday that we would be in this position today I would have found it very hard to believe. There's still a few hurdles to jump of course, But to me it looks like more and more Chiefs fans are beginning to see that releasing Hill hurts us and only us, and we're not falling for the Kareem Hunt trick again. Hopefully the case will be thrown out once again and then we will see what happens. I can't see how the NFL can ban Hill for a long period when there is no evidence involved. And as the days go by the more the heat around Ty will slowly subside.

I'm still happy with my vote... Save Tyreek...

Honestly, if you fell for the Hunt “trick” the first time, you’re either really ****ing stupid or too emotional to be making most decisions.

No excuse to abuse women or children. Bye Reek.

Still happy to be part of the sane minority who doesn't want to watch the organization eat shit when Hill's earned redemption with another team and is such a cuddly and stand up guy now and gee, we're just thrilled to have him, because everybody deserves another chance as long as they're not playing for a small market midwestern team that dares to challenge New England for conference supremacy.

I kind of feel like this has already blown over.

A month from now no one will be screaming for his release.

And to boot...we will sign him at an incredible discount.

I think Clark'$ front office $en$e overrode his boy scout programming.

Down to only 128 tweets about Hill in the last hour

we're no longer the shiny thing

SJW outrage moves fast

And the world might have just figured out how crazy the team on the chick's half of the story is...

I don't think you are catching on to the current mood. Move along.

Will he be suspended at all?

The report of the NFL not making a decision on it in the near future kind of tells me they want to try and weather the already decreasing storm. But the ruling of the CPS decision might play into factor. I honestly have no idea what to expect with this but I will be fine as long as the Chiefs retain the rights of this POS.

So if he's only suspended for a few games in even half the season, you wouldn't want to keep him?

If we're waiting for the NFL to take action and the result is that he's suspended for 8-10 games, then we would be dumb as hell to release him.

The alternative is for John Dorsey to sign him and for the media to suck Buddy Boy off for building the team that led the Browns to the Super Bowl.

Guarantee you there wouldn't be a thing said about Hunt or Hill.

So no, **** that. IF Hill is continued to allow playing, and that's a huge if, then it needs to be for us.

What's your reason for wanting to release him right now?

I’m guessing his emotional side and trust in the media got the best of him.

Is it too late to change my answer to a resounding NO?

We all make mistakes. It's all good.


I mean, I didn't make a mistake. I'm the ****ing king.

I seem nice

Internets outrage, lol. Y'all who voted "yes" and still say "yes" should put up a frame on your Facebook profile pic in support of having him kicked off the team. That'll show em.

Why would anyone say yes in the first place? Honest question. How would that help the Chiefs in ANY meaningful way?

This. I said NO right out of the gate. Innocent until proven guilty. IF he did indeed break his son's arm (which i do not believe) then YES get the hell out of dodge.

He is a HUGE part of this team. Losing Peters did not change anything. Losing Hunt changed some but not enough in my opinion. Losing Hill would change this team immediately.

The Chiefs were wrong to release Hunt as well. That was clear from the beginning.

Some people want to do the right thing even if it doesn't immediately provide some benefit to them.

The Chiefs learned from their mistakes (if mistakes were made) with the Hunt situation as well. I think the Chiefs did exactly as they intended after finding out KH lied/mislead them and was willing to take the player loss. I think the Chiefs have given TH more room because he has been "straight up" with them and everything TH has told them is accurate. I'd almost bet the way the Chiefs dealt with KH affected how TH has handled his business with the Chiefs and it's why he's suspended pending but still on the team.

Some people think doing the right thing is what they believe, and they don't wait for facts.

For me, doing the right thing is not immediately condemning a man based on hearsay.

How is it the "right" thing?

It feels right man!

I’m basically the Pit Boss of this entire forum.

When this whole story broke, I voted "No," because I felt that we didn't have all the facts. But if evidence was brought that proved his guilt, then he should be released, ASAP.

However . . .

If what I'm hearing/reading today concerning the possible/probable guilt of his fiance concerning the injuries to their son is correct, then I'm emphatically not in favor of Tyreek being released. If in fact his fiance was largely responsible for their son's injuries, then Tyreek should be reinstated to full participation in team activities ASAP. He should also receive public apologies from the media and much of the fan base for jumping to the wrong conclusions. Of course, none of that'll ever happen.

However, I feel that his son should perhaps be cared for by a family member rather than Tyreek or his fiance. Should be "ex-fiance;" they should part ways immediately for their sakes, as well as their son's.

Absolute failure ROFL Toke up Smoke

If he’s completely cleared (which appears like it’s coming) I will retract my statement of the NFL not letting the Chiefs go to the SB.

Well, things just got interesting with Hill's denial to the NFL....he may yet remain a Chief...

If youre one of the crazy, it's rigged types, I think we can safely say the NFL won't want this story dominating Super Bowl week. If there remains any question about who did it the national assumption is going to be him.

If Espinal caused her son's injuries, Hill is still a rat bastard for not immediately going to the cops, just as she should be imprisoned and lose her parental rights for not reporting abuse.

The irony of people being immediately willing to believe a statement by Hill's defense attorney is absolutely flabbergasting.

It's not terribly difficult for any parent that is remotely involved in their toddler's life to establish if abuse is occurring. One or the other knew and did nothing. On top of that, we also know for a fact that Hill has abused her before, and we know that he has threatened her recently.

You're an idiot that probably also thinks your First Amendment rights extend to your job.

ROFL

That's almost as funny as watching Donger lead you around on a leash in CPDC, every single day.

:spock:

This really is ridiculous. Until he is proven guilty there is nothing that can be said YES or NO. I see his fiance as unstable. He had to call 911 because she was passed out with a 3 year old running loose in their home? Really? Yes, I have 3 kids and 4 grand kids. I would never in a million years condone this type of behavior. Yes, they were terrible 2's and one even did a beautiful mural on our new homes wall. Still, I did not take excessive force. It can always be fixed and it was - for $$$. My point is that as a man, as a human being, I can't see harming a child intentionally - I refuse to believe that. Being rich or being poor, kids are kids and we have to deal with it as adults.

I just want to know the no bullshit bottom line so I can get away from this subject once and for all. Keep him, release him, whatever. Just let it be done.

Amen

You forgot extend him :)

Bottom line....


You will be seeing the peace sign a lot this coming season.... I hope

I really hope Tyreek Hill doesn't talk to a single media member all season long.

As far as I'm concerned they were all complicit in trying to **** our Cheetah.

I hope not. I think he got flagged for a 15 yard penalty last time he did it.

Unless he is released, this will never be done. It will now get brought up literally every time he touches the ball just like his first year. It seemed like it only stopped this year once the prior incident was off the books.

The Kingdom is going to support this kid.

You watch.

If people try to start shit they are going to feel our full wrath.

Personally I think that stain should take awhile to wash away but that is not for any of us or the media to judge him. That is up to his family, loved ones and if necessary a court. Who will or has brought this up every time he touched the ball his first couple of years? I didn't hear much from the media past the draft and everyone else seemed as enamored watching him play as we were in my opinion. He was good enough to make you forget about his history.

You don't know what the right thing is. you didn't know it on that day, and you don't know what it is today either.
You, like the rest of the emotional ninnies, completely jumped the gun and gave everyone a wonderful display of why this country is slowly becoming a pile of s***. Congratulations!
It was absolutely impossible to get any kind of reasonable, comprehensive discussion out of the ladies that day because they were so charged up on their CP man estrogen.

Now, let's see who persists in the ultra-****y double down!

What I don't get is that if KC doesn't release Hill we're the bad guy. KC is immoral.

But once Hill is released someone else gets an all pro WR for next to nothing and they're "giving someone a second chance." For KC it's a no-win situation and for the team that signs him it's a no lose...

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Exactly

I don’t see anyone complaining about the Browns signing Kareem Hunt.

This is one of those cases that a lot of times, guilt or innocence doesn't really matter to a ton of people. He is accused of a hot button issue so everyone knee jerks. With where society is today convicting someone in the court of public opinion is hard for them to come back from.

Also even when new stuff comes out people dig in and refuse to change an opinion, it turns into oh well he's a shithead anyway.

You must not watch many games on tv. Pretty much every announcer the first year mentioned it when he made a play. Not always more than once a game, but it was often. I just remember wondering if they were going to do this his entire career.

Also to add to what I said, we are in a society now where no proof is needed. Even if he were to be completely exonerated in this whole thing..people would still say he did it and his money or fame saved him.

Go look at twitter or reddit, everyone is saying all his lawyer info is bullshit, ban him, etc etc.

No news or reporter will ever have to apologize because everyone will still say he is guilty.

I think in the end it’s very simple for me, I’m either for home being locked up for years and dropped from the team if they convict him of child abuse or keeping him on the team and trading for a first or second in a sign and trade like Clarck was from Seattle . If he is cleared of all charges some team will not be able to contain themselves from giving us a first for him. Hell if the cowgirls are giving a first for Cooper we should get that and more for tyreek. I just want him on the team long enough to get compensation . That would make most fans happy in my opinion.

You do realize for this to be a bowl team we kinda need him right now?

I'll accept apologies.

While having Tyreek Hill makes them MUCH better, they're not a pretender without him. That's silly.

I don't think they're a pretender but if this incident isn't what everyone thought I wouldn't be so quick to just want to get rid of him.

I agree with that. The Chiefs did the right thing for now - suspend him and get all the facts.

I still feel personally that he's going to be punished by the NFL - even if he didn't abuse the kid, it appears he conspired with her to cover up her abuse. Goodell is going to make an example out of Hill simply because he can.

I'm not in favor of releasing him now simply because the whole situation is way more confusing even now than it was before and because I don't think another team should be rewarded for the Chiefs trying to do the right thing.

Good luck with that in this house.

I voted no let the court system playout quit assuming someone is guity before having all the facts.

Man, this dude was on a jihad to set the record for most SJW points per post. Damn.

Welcome to modern day America.

I voted no because I don't jump to conclusions before all the facts have been given.

Agree. Due process seems to be dead in this country. The media works themselves up into a hysteria and demand immediate action.

Don't think that hasn't crossed most people's minds. Of course, his attorney is going to say things that support him. Even so, if what he says about having those texts is true then I don't see how any of this can be pinned on Tyreek.

As of right now it at least bought us time to keep him. I don't think people will care too much if we didn't cut him as long as he's suspended, which Id be shocked if the NFL didn't do. We should be exploring any and all offers to trade him away and also exploring a trade for another wr like AJ green. Another team can get away with the second chance thing, the Chiefs can't as much... And that starts to matter big time when we're talking about long term contracts. If we're talking expensive deals I'd much rather give that to someone who can be reliable. Even those who think he's totally innocent have to see the warning signs that he could easily do something stupid in the future.

Hamas used to be the most un-PC person on this board. Sadly, too many years at college, studying to be faculty I presume, has shifted his outlook on things quite a bit. But hey, someone has to take crazy, redheaded, former professor's spot at Mizzou, amirite?!

Lawyers going to lawyer and didn't change a thing.

The text conversation has changed my viewpoint quite a bit. I'm human, perhaps it's because I want to believe.

Honestly, I don't care what people think of us. All that matters (as it relates to those players who will ultimately be allowed to play in this league) is that we finally win a SB.

And I think other teams (and their fans) always knew the Hunt's totally cared about what other people thought, so the other teams and the virtue signalling press always knew that with the Chiefs they had opportunity to possibly improve their competitiveness (either by getting him, or playing us without him being on our team), or advance their agendas (virtue signalers).

Let's pray Clark just sticks to the code and forces the league make the call on what will happen to his career as it relates to the entire NFL. If we jump the gun (again), they'll almost certainly allow him to play again thus gifting him to another team, and it'll all go down exactly as you described.

It's because the flimsy bullshit that was presented in the media doesn't mean a damn thing now.

Crystal tried to appeal to the court of public opinion, the media saw a chance to make a few waves, and they just got smacked down by cold, hard facts. Now it's time for them to scurry off into whatever dank little cold hole they came from and live out the rest of their pathetic, miserable lives.

Tyreek is going to come out of this vindicated and with more support than ever before.

I think you are right.

There will be fake-rage throughout the league, though. The opposition thought the Chiefs were about to be weakened.

Welp…...