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Why Not? 10-18-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 14537031)
Wrong. You're confusing the knee and the knee cap.

I think a lot of twitter and message board doctors are doing this.

Mecca 10-18-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14537024)
you cannot dislocate a kneecap without there being structural damage. The chances the knee will need surgery are 100%. The only question is whether they will put the surgery off and have him play for this year at significant risk of worsening the injury, or if they will play it safe. he should have the surgery today and be fully recovered in time for the start of camp.

Well that would open my Sundays up for other things.

Aspengc8 10-18-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14537024)
you cannot dislocate a kneecap without there being structural damage. The chances the knee will need surgery are 100%. The only question is whether they will put the surgery off and have him play for this year at significant risk of worsening the injury, or if they will play it safe. he should have the surgery today and be fully recovered in time for the start of camp.

unless it was patellar subluxation that caused the kneecap to move.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 14537034)
That is 100% inaccurate. I dislocated my knee cap last month playing in a rec basketball league. I got it popped back in at the hospital, I had to immobilize it for 1 day. Went and got MRI, no ligament or structural damage. I was told to take it easy for the next 2-3 weeks, and have had no issues.

I trust your medical analysis 100%

TambaBerry 10-18-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537045)
I trust your medical analysis 100%

this is what happened to me in high school, popped it back in bad pain for a couple weeks and was good to go after

warrior 10-18-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14537024)
you cannot dislocate a kneecap without there being structural damage. The chances the knee will need surgery are 100%. The only question is whether they will put the surgery off and have him play for this year at significant risk of worsening the injury, or if they will play it safe. he should have the surgery today and be fully recovered in time for the start of camp.

This is complete bull shit

CasselGotPeedOn 10-18-2019 09:36 AM

chiefsfan15 smells like a turd to me....

YontsRBake 10-18-2019 09:38 AM

What if we just ran a gimmick offense against GB, kinda like the Dolphins used to do a while back.

Come out in wildcat every play with Hill at QB, motion Mecole across. Zone reads to McCoy, Jets Sweep fakes to Mecole, Jet Sweeps, run some RPO quick out 3 yard route to Kelce.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 09:38 AM

The Packers aren't even particularly good.

17th in offense, 21st in defense.

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537063)
The Packers aren't even particularly good.

17th in offense, 21st in defense.

The Packers are probably gonna come in as favorites. bet the house on the Chiefs baby. We got this.

FloridaMan88 10-18-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14537024)
you cannot dislocate a kneecap without there being structural damage. The chances the knee will need surgery are 100%. The only question is whether they will put the surgery off and have him play for this year at significant risk of worsening the injury, or if they will play it safe. he should have the surgery today and be fully recovered in time for the start of camp.

Matthew Stafford dislocated his knee in a game 10 years ago (his rookie season), he only missed two games and waited until after the season (which in Detroit's case was a week before their final game since they had long been eliminated from playoff contention) to have surgery.

10 years later it hasn't affected him.

Hboosboy 10-18-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14537064)
The Packers are probably gonna come in as favorites. bet the house on the Chiefs baby. We got this.

Without Patrick?

arrwheader 10-18-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14536984)
Yeah so if there are no tears, would he even need surgery down the road? Haven’t read on that.

That would be amazing...

No tear no surgery, just rest.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537063)
The Packers aren't even particularly good.

17th in offense, 21st in defense.

Chris Carter said that the Broncos are so bad that the Chiefs can’t come out of this game with any positives. Dude is ****ing reeruned

Mecca 10-18-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14537068)
Matthew Stafford dislocated his knee in a game 10 years ago (his rookie season), he only missed two games and waited until after the season (which in Detroit's case was a week before their final game since they had long been eliminated from playoff contention) to have surgery.

10 years later it hasn't affected him.

And that quack Doctor basically called Stafford a dumbass for doing that and said he damaged his knee more.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 09:42 AM

When is his mri?

ClevelandBronco 10-18-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14537068)
Matthew Stafford dislocated his knee in a game 10 years ago (his rookie season), he only missed two games and waited until after the season (which in Detroit's case was a week before their final game since they had long been eliminated from playoff contention) to have surgery.

10 years later it hasn't affected him.

Except that he plays like Matthew Stafford.

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hboosboy (Post 14537069)
Without Patrick?

yes

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14537071)
Chris Carter said that the Broncos are so bad that the Chiefs can’t come out of this game with any positives. Dude is ****ing reeruned

Cris Carter is a conceited cock sucker who thinks he's an all time football expert.

Still has as many rings as the idiots who post here LMAOLMAOLMAO

Strongside 10-18-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14537073)
When is his mri?

Noon, CT.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14537073)
When is his mri?

75 minutes

Chris Meck 10-18-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14537061)
What if we just ran a gimmick offense against GB, kinda like the Dolphins used to do a while back.

Come out in wildcat every play with Hill at QB, motion Mecole across. Zone reads to McCoy, Jets Sweep fakes to Mecole, Jet Sweeps, run some RPO quick out 3 yard route to Kelce.

No, man.

We line up and beat 'em Alex Smith style.

We run screens, and slants, swing passes and run the ball, and take an occasional play-action deep shot.

KChiefs1 10-18-2019 09:45 AM

How long after the MRI will we know the results?

Strongside 10-18-2019 09:45 AM

Arrowhead is probably going to be a wild place next week. The fans need to rally around this team, and I don't doubt that they will. NOISE.

Dayze 10-18-2019 09:45 AM

maybe we can trade for Alex Smith so he can be the Check Down Quality Control Coach.

FloridaMan88 10-18-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 14537074)
Except that he plays like Matthew Stafford.

But nothing to do with his dislocated knee + waiting until after the season to have surgery 10 years ago.

KChiefs1 10-18-2019 09:47 AM

https://www.stltoday.com/news/archiv...e31eea984.html

RunKC 10-18-2019 09:48 AM

If it’s 3 weeks, just hold him out the 4 games and bring him back after the bye on 12/1.

The Broncos are done, the Chargers already have 4 losses and are not good and the Raiders play the Packers and Texans the next 2 weeks both on the road.

We’ll be fine

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 09:49 AM

Are they live streaming this mri?

arrwheader 10-18-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14537100)
If it’s 3 weeks, just hold him out the 4 games and bring him back after the bye on 12/1.

The Broncos are done, the Chargers already have 4 losses and are not good and the Raiders play the Packers and Texans the next 2 weeks both on the road.

We’ll be fine

If he doesn't have a tear then this is what they will do or should do. IMO.

KChiefs1 10-18-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14537100)
If it’s 3 weeks, just hold him out the 4 games and bring him back after the bye on 12/1.



The Broncos are done, the Chargers already have 4 losses and are not good and the Raiders play the Packers and Texans the next 2 weeks both on the road.



We’ll be fine



Agreed

The division is ours.

I’d like a first round bye though.

Marcellus 10-18-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14537020)
The fear is that his already unsteady knee takes on a play where Mahomes has to scramble and his knee buckles. That’s what happened to RGIII.

Of course that is very hard to diagnose, but after this I don’t expect Pat to be the same in terms of effectiveness. We saw him throwing bad balls bc of a sore ankle. Now imagine a sore knee and how that will affect his movement and planting that leg to make throws?

Not trying to be Debbie downer here, but I might keep him out a month if they don’t feel good about it here in a few weeks.

RGIII had freaking torn ligaments in his knee, and a completely different injury.


Matt Stafford had the exact same injury as Mahomes and missed 3 games and did not have surgery.

Marcellus 10-18-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14537100)
If it’s 3 weeks, just hold him out the 4 games and bring him back after the bye on 12/1.

The Broncos are done, the Chargers already have 4 losses and are not good and the Raiders play the Packers and Texans the next 2 weeks both on the road.

We’ll be fine

If its 3 weeks its 3 weeks and you play in the 4th game.

arrwheader 10-18-2019 09:53 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last thing on Mahomes until the MRI:<br><br>Dr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif said a key is how quickly the kneecap is put back. There&#39;s a lot of tension on those tendons, so the time to put it back in place is a big factor in swelling. Chiefs staff got to him quickly.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1185220843556589568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kcclone 10-18-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14537107)
Agreed

The division is ours.

I’d like a first round bye though.


If we're healthy, a wildcard game is not the end of the world.

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 09:54 AM

LDT should have diagnosed him when he was on the field

Kman34 10-18-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14537121)
LDT should have diagnosed him when he was on the field

LDT should have popped it back within seconds...ROFLROFL

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 14537120)
If we're healthy, a wildcard game is not the end of the world.

It sucks that we won't get the dream of an AFCC at Arrowhead, most likely.

But we will have a shot anywhere.

All you can ask for.

Bwana 10-18-2019 09:59 AM

Chiefs Center Austin Reiter Describes What It Was Like To Have An Injured Patrick Mahomes Laying On Top Of Him

Patrick Mahomes suffered what looks to be a rather serious knee injury during the second quarter of Kansas City’s 30-6 win over Denver on Thursday night. At the moment it has been reported that he is expected to miss at least three weeks pending the results of an MRI on Friday.

The injury occurred during a 4th and 1 play and immediately following we could see Mahomes grabbing his knee. While the focus is certainly on the knee of last season’s MVP, it was an interesting situation as Mahomes actually landed on the back of his center, Austin Reiter, and laid there for quite some time.

It’s quite the scene with the game’s most talented quarterback lying on top of his center’s back due to the fact he’s cautious to do anything with his leg that featured a dislocated kneecap.

Reiter spoke to the media after the game about what was going through his head during the moment.

“I think I was just yelling, ‘Get off me,’ but I didn’t realize it was him. And everybody’s telling me, I’m hearing from the refs, ‘Just stay still, stay still.’ And I’m just laying on my stomach face down. I just had to listen to the refs and not move. As soon as I realized it was his voice, I was like, all right, I’m not moving an inch.”

I’m sure Reiter went from angry because someone wouldn’t get off of him to extremely nervous in the snap of a finger after he realized it was his own quarterback that was unable to move off of his back. That’s certainly a story he can hold onto for the rest of his life.

According to Pro Football Doc, Mahomes’ type of injury typically requires surgery and if he and the Chiefs decide to go that route he could be looking at a six to nine-month recovery window.

FloridaMan88 10-18-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14537100)
If it’s 3 weeks, just hold him out the 4 games and bring him back after the bye on 12/1.

The Broncos are done, the Chargers already have 4 losses and are not good and the Raiders play the Packers and Texans the next 2 weeks both on the road.

We’ll be fine

Agreed, assuming the MRI shows up okay.

Hopefully the Chiefs can go at least 2-2 during that stretch, sustain no additional key injuries and return post-bye with Mahomes and be ready for the stretch run.

chiefzilla1501 10-18-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14537116)
If its 3 weeks its 3 weeks and you play in the 4th game.

If we win 1 or 2, I'd be fine with Mahomes sitting out one more to make 200% sure he's fully healthy. Getting this team through the bye week without putting mahomes on the field would be awesome. I love mahomes but he's so tough that I honestly don't really trust him to tell the team when he's truly ready. No need to rush this thing.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:01 AM

Who says we can’t get the #1 seed?? If Matty Ice runs the table while Mahomes is out and Mahomes comes back rapes Brady Dec 8 we are getting HFA!!

RunKC 10-18-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14537116)
If its 3 weeks its 3 weeks and you play in the 4th game.

After what happened to Justin Houston, I’m not chancing anything.

jdubya 10-18-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14537071)
Chris Carter said that the Broncos are so bad that the Chiefs can’t come out of this game with any positives. Dude is ****ing reeruned

Carter is a little bitch and whiner but I dont think he is entirely wrong. One game doesn't define if the defense is suddenly great and ready for the super bowl. Flacco and company looked worse than inept. Let`s see how the next few games go. All a backup QB needs to do is win enough to stay in the race until Patrick returns. I think the QB whisperer will have him prepared to do well enough for a few weeks.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-18-2019 10:05 AM

Carter plays the Chief hater role cause he sits across from Nick Wright.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-18-2019 10:06 AM

I’d really love the bye but at this point you just have to hope Mahomes comes back and you’ll take your shot. They can beat anyone.

ChiTown 10-18-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14537159)
Carter plays the Chief hater role cause he sits across from Nick Wright.

He also has borderline CTE takes....

Kman34 10-18-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14537071)
Chris Carter said that the Broncos are so bad that the Chiefs can’t come out of this game with any positives. Dude is ****ing reeruned

Yeah they’re so bad that it was a 3 pt spread and people were picking them to win outright... ****ing talking heads

Buehler445 10-18-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 14537140)
Chiefs Center Austin Reiter Describes What It Was Like To Have An Injured Patrick Mahomes Laying On Top Of Him

Patrick Mahomes suffered what looks to be a rather serious knee injury during the second quarter of Kansas City’s 30-6 win over Denver on Thursday night. At the moment it has been reported that he is expected to miss at least three weeks pending the results of an MRI on Friday.

The injury occurred during a 4th and 1 play and immediately following we could see Mahomes grabbing his knee. While the focus is certainly on the knee of last season’s MVP, it was an interesting situation as Mahomes actually landed on the back of his center, Austin Reiter, and laid there for quite some time.

It’s quite the scene with the game’s most talented quarterback lying on top of his center’s back due to the fact he’s cautious to do anything with his leg that featured a dislocated kneecap.

Reiter spoke to the media after the game about what was going through his head during the moment.

“I think I was just yelling, ‘Get off me,’ but I didn’t realize it was him. And everybody’s telling me, I’m hearing from the refs, ‘Just stay still, stay still.’ And I’m just laying on my stomach face down. I just had to listen to the refs and not move. As soon as I realized it was his voice, I was like, all right, I’m not moving an inch.”

I’m sure Reiter went from angry because someone wouldn’t get off of him to extremely nervous in the snap of a finger after he realized it was his own quarterback that was unable to move off of his back. That’s certainly a story he can hold onto for the rest of his life.

According to Pro Football Doc, Mahomes’ type of injury typically requires surgery and if he and the Chiefs decide to go that route he could be looking at a six to nine-month recovery window.

You're goddamn right, he's not moving an inch.

FloridaMan88 10-18-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14537116)
If its 3 weeks its 3 weeks and you play in the 4th game.

That 4th game would be in Mexico City on a questionable playing surface.

Not worth the risk.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14537180)
That 4th game would be in Mexico City on a questionable playing surface.

Not worth the risk.

Chargers gonna be hung over anyway.

KC Hawks 10-18-2019 10:19 AM

Send Mahomes to Germany like Kobe. He'll be back in a jiffy.

-King- 10-18-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14537180)
That 4th game would be in Mexico City on a questionable playing surface.

Not worth the risk.

That field will be in pristine condition this time. The NFL does not want a repeat of what happened last year.

The Franchise 10-18-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14537186)
That field will be in pristine condition this time. The NFL does not want a repeat of what happened last year.

Still not ****ing risking it. Not to mention that the Chargers games are always tough ones.

Let him sit and bring him back for the Raiders game.

rabblerouser 10-18-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14537085)
No, man.

We line up and beat 'em Alex Smith style.

We run screens, and slants, swing passes and run the ball, and take an occasional play-action deep shot.

****, Reid could make Mandy Moore look like Alex Smith...

And trade him to someone like Tampa Bay or Tennessee.

O.city 10-18-2019 10:36 AM

If Foles comes back and is gonna play in Jacksonville, I might inquire about Minshew.

The Franchise 10-18-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14537213)
If Foles comes back and is gonna play in Jacksonville, I might inquire about Minshew.

They aren’t going to trade him.

O.city 10-18-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14537216)
They aren’t going to trade him.

I doubt it, but I'd ask.

Lets just hope the MRI comes back clean.

Bwana 10-18-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14537216)
They aren’t going to trade him.

Exactly, not happening.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:40 AM

I’m sticking with Moore. He knows the offense already. Call Shurmur up to be the backup. In Moore’s career he is 15-15. He’s a decent QB. Game manager is what we want rn

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-18-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14537216)
They aren’t going to trade him.

ROFL no way.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 10:42 AM

15 mins...

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-18-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537229)
15 mins...

17... your clock is fast

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:43 AM

I wish they live streamed this

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:44 AM

Remember it may take a couple hours afterwards to process the images and to get a complete diagnosis.

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537229)
15 mins...

Ah **** saw the MRI was scheduled for twelve but forgot that it was central time, I’ve been refreshing Twitter for the past fifteen minutes LMAO

rabblerouser 10-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14537213)
If Foles comes back and is gonna play in Jacksonville, I might inquire about Minshew.

Minshew is their starter. You'd be inquiring about Foles.

crispystl 10-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14537213)
If Foles comes back and is gonna play in Jacksonville, I might inquire about Minshew.

LMAO. They haven't had jack shit for QB prospects in 2 decades but you think they'l trade us Minshew for a late round pick? GTFO

St. Patty's Fire 10-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14537240)
Minshew is their starter. You'd be inquiring about Foles.

Foles is gonna start when he comes back. Guarantee it

Go Royals 10-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14537024)
you cannot dislocate a kneecap without there being structural damage. The chances the knee will need surgery are 100%. The only question is whether they will put the surgery off and have him play for this year at significant risk of worsening the injury, or if they will play it safe. he should have the surgery today and be fully recovered in time for the start of camp.

This is 100% false. I dislocated my kneecap last year. I didn't have a trainer rush to me and reset my kneecap within minutes. After it happened I had no ability to walk on my own after it happened. Doctors determined I did not have to have surgery. I had to have a large amount of blood drained from my knee, dealt with mobility issues, and had to wear a brace, and do physical therapy.

I would imagine that the doctors Mahomes is dealing with are even better than the ones I did. They'll know a lot more than some dumbass poster on a fan forum.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hang in there <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> we’re all wishing you a speedy recovery!</p>&mdash; Joseph Montana (@JoeMontana) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeMontana/status/1185233251285139456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

suzzer99 10-18-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan15 (Post 14536965)
This is not our super bowl season. Despite the Broncos making them look good, we don’t have a defense that can win the Super Bowl. The right thing to do with Mahomes is to play it safe and have the surgery now. The Chiefs never do this, they rush people back before they are healthy (like with Houston), but we are talking about the franchise here. Come back next season with an NFL-caliber defense and a completely healthy MVP.

Did you not watch last night? Our defense is FIXED! Fixed I say. Good day SIR!!!

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 10-18-2019 10:49 AM

Honey Badger should get a statue outside of Arrowhead if this defense can play like this the rest of the year

CasselGotPeedOn 10-18-2019 10:50 AM

O.city's ideas:

https://im5.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-5-9d934d9c0891.gif

suzzer99 10-18-2019 10:50 AM

But we were told E. Berry was a great leader and said all the right things.

BleedingRed 10-18-2019 10:52 AM

****

The Franchise 10-18-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14537258)
****

The **** is this bullshit?

FringeNC 10-18-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14537243)
Foles is gonna start when he comes back. Guarantee it

Even if that's true, which is debatable, Minshew would fetch A LOT in a trade, and there's no way we pay the price. IMO, they'd be more likely to trade Foles.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-18-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14537261)
The **** is this bullshit?

******* **** ********:mad:

BleedingRed 10-18-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14537261)
The **** is this bullshit?

Hindsight I should have typed out I'm dying inside waiting.


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