Value goes out the window when he wouldn’t be there at 63.

And don’t give me Dobbins, Swift or Taylor because they don’t fit in this offense as well as CEH does.

I agree with you. I think they played the toughest schedule I have ever seen. And that team, with so many post season award winners, picked CEH as their team MVP. That's says a lot to me.

I just remember watching him eat up the Clemson defense and thinking how awesome it would be if he was a Chief. And now he is.

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Dude is living the best football life. From National Champion to Super Bowl Champion.

Yea to do what he did last year out of nowhere, win a NC, then get drafted by the SB champs has to be the biggest confidence boost ever.

Peter Schrager says we won the whole draft.

So our roster has Sherman and Lovett listed as FB, and at RB we now have Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Damien Williams, DeAndre Washington, Darwin Thompson, Darrel Williams, Mike Weber, Elijah McGuire, and Marcus Marshall. All your runningbacks belong to us!

Anybody who is mad about the value should be pissed at the Packers and the Ravens. Queen being gone and Love being gone forced the Chiefs hand.

cool... we got us a modern era super gnat

Maybe. And I gotta figure Jones will be awfully tempting for cincy to protect Burrow.

But teaming CEH with Mixon could've been too much for them to pass on. I don't think you get CEH past 35. Seeing how excited the staff is about the pick- I don't think they'd have risked a trade down.

How many RBs can we keep?

CEH
Damien
Washington
Thompson
Sherman

?

Man Mixon and CEH would be unfair lol

Oh I get that. He would have been gone by the time we picked after a trade down.

Mixon would have been gone. He’s going to hold out.

I’m still intrigued by Thompson, so hopefully he can at least make an impact on STs to keep a roster spot.

Probably something like that. Should be an interesting camp. I know Clyde and Darrel Williams have a pretty strong relationship don't they? That might put Thompson on the outside looking in.

Screw Thompson. If Darrell is healthy, keep the big back with sweet pass-catching skills. Washington can spill Clyde, Darrell can spill Damien. The only upside Thompson has is that he got a lot of experience on specials last season.

wheee

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Exactly. I certainly won’t miss the RB by committee. If you have 3 starters at RB, you have none. That’s about to change.

Dude was voted team MVP by the LSU players.

Read that shit again.

I know he's only 5'7" and 205. It's why I kind of thought another back might be in the cards.

But as short as he is, he's pretty stoutly built at that weight. And with Mahomes as your QB, does that fact that he's short even matter? Not in this offense.

His presence means you can't double Kelce all the time. Or you have to leave Hill one on one. or Watkins. Or Hardman.

We might not punt all season.

LOL.

No, boo-boo, no.

First, the OL came together in the last quarter of the season and in the playoffs, and we were able to run much more effectively than in the first half of the season.

Second, as a pure runner, CEH has the kind of vision, football IQ, acceleration, balance, and shifty-ness to find creases to run through that no one else in the RB room has. Which you would know if you had watched the Brett Kolmann video, which explains this in a way that even dummies can understand. There's pictures with arrows and everything. You should go watch it.

So even if the call is an interior gap run, this kid has the tools to find yards that our RB group couldn't find last season, other than Shady, who is also elite in those respects.

In fact, CEH is exactly the kind of RB you want on the field when your OL isn't playing very well. This kind of ankle-breaker can effectively hide a lot of OL issues as far as the running game goes.

RBs:
CEH
Damien Williams
Darrel Williams
DeAndre Washington

Darwin’s either gone or off to the PS

Yeah, he's got that elusiveness and change of direction to make something out of nothing. It's a rare talent, and that's what you have to have if you've got a middle of the pack at best OL.

We're also not going to suddenly hand off 30 times a game. I mean, that's just not what Andy Reid does. I don't care if we had Barry Sanders and Walter Payton.

And Clyde's got a little of both of those guys going on.

Watching tape of this guy and my god, his routes as a pass catcher are dirty. His jukes are other worldly.

maybe I need to quit watching his highlights.

I'm starting to get kind of silly. Funny in the head.

I'm seeing Barry Sanders and Walter Payton.

with Marshall Faulk added in.

I've lost my mind.

Tell me I'm crazy.

Darwin Award Thompson sucks and has the worst ball awareness of any RB I've seen in decades.

CEH and Damian are locks

I assume the rest of the spots are up for grabs with Washington having an inside track, they may only keep 3 as honestly Darrell Williams and Darwin Thompson haven't shown all that much.

All the times it appears the defense has him reeled in 5 yards behind the first down marker and he always finds a way to pick it up anyway (or get damn close) is my favorite thing about him.

Just watch his tape against Bama if you're in doubt.

Agreed, but remember this name...Tim Ward, a free agent DE on the roster who was injured last year. Coaches were impressed before he went down.

Him and Darius Harris both got stashed last year and are likely to be on the team this year.

It should be noted that the corpse of Lesean McCoy averaged 4.6YPC behind this line last year.

CEH will be fine.

Spell.....literally.

Lol

Yeah, at this point, I see CEH, Damien Williams, Washington and Sherman as their RB's on the 55 with the possibility of Darrel Williams ending up on the PS.

Although I won't be surprised if they grab at least one more RB once the UDFA signings are announced, maybe two.

If history tells us anything about the Chiefs under Reid, it's that they can never have enough running backs.

McCoy looked better because he was shifty and what do you know we draft a shifty guy.

His change of direction defies logic. And that spin move is filthy. He flat out abused Xavier McKinney for a walk in TD.

Call Houston and see what BO'B would give for Thompson :)

This guy doesnt fumble though. I think McCoy cost us two games with that issue. And he nearly lost a fumble inside the 10 in Mexico too. This kid is solid in that regard. Like Kareem solid.

You ever watch Walter Payton?

It's like that.

The Chiefs offensive line was Bottom 5 in sacks given up last season.

The Chiefs didn't have a true Feature Back, which really hurt their running game AND their passing game because LBer's and Safeties weren't "cheating" by giving a look into the backfield because no one was afraid of 200 year old LeSean McCoy or Darrel Williams or Darwin Award Thompson.

I ****ing hate you "Offensive Line!" dipshits. This isn't the 1970's, moron.

CEH is going to run behind Damien and Washington this season. He'll see about 15 snaps a game. Remember he has to learn the playbook, and he has to make EB believe that he can pass pro just to get on the field.

But even if he jumps into the 2nd slot behind Damien, he still won't see 20 snaps a game because Andy isn't a run-first OC. There's only about 25-30 runs total in Andy's game plan from week to week.

So you're right, even if we had Barry freaking Sanders (how ridiculous would that be) Andy still wouldn't run much more than what we've been seeing for the last couple years, because he has Mahomes/Hill/Kelce.

Heh. Watch his games against Arkansas or Texas A&M. I was ****ing giddy like a school girl watching that shit.

For those of you who are reminded of Barry Sanders when you watch CEH, you have to watch those games. He does his best Barry Sanders impersonations there.

And btw, when asked who he modeled himself after, his answer was Barry Sanders.

I gotta not watch it anymore.

I'm seriously seeing Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk's receiving ability.

I've lost my shit.

The moment Damien tweaks a groin CEH will be inserted and the Chiefs will never look back.

Like Kareem Hunt after Ware went down.

there's a lot of that in his change of direction and elusiveness.

But he'll just drop his shoulder and plow for the extra yards too, and that's kind of what makes me think of Payton.

Shady began the season averaging over 5.4 yards/carry. His average dropped to under 5 yards/carry after he tweaked his ankle against the Colts.

We have so many RBs now we won't have to keep calling CJ Speller. Or Tori Spilling. Or anyone else for that matter.

It's a very real possibility they don't see OL as a big need. They seem to be banking on LDT returning to form and might be high on Rankins. They'll add an OL if it's BPA no doubt, but might not be in such a hurry to do so.

I think you're right.

Veach said the OL has value well into the 4th.

I’d expect us to take one in rounds 3-5.

Yes but none of you people have bothered to read the new CBA.

If any first rounder reaches two Pro Bowls in his first three seasons, his 5th year option then equals the Franchise Tag number.

So if CEH lives up to his potential, he'll likely be with the Chiefs for only 4 years but the Chiefs should get a high Comp Pick in return.

3 of Belichick's 18 First round draft picks have been RB's. The only other position he's drafted MORE of in the first round is Defensive Tackle.

It's not all about the First round. Like others have said in this thread, it's about where in the First round. When you're at the end, you have your choice of elite RB's.

So, all 19 games

I think they view IOL as something they can plug-n-play off the scrap heap. They've been treating IOL that way since Reid has been here.

And i think Veach is a "rare, uncoachable trait" kind of guy when it comes to the draft. You don't find many "rare uncoachable traits" when looking at IOL in general.

Hope they do. Can never have enough OL prospects.

I'm all about positional value but some people act like you can't draft Barry Sanders in round 1, Arizona played that game taking a LT over Adrian Peterson, they'd have a SB title had they taken Peterson.

That would be my assumption as well.

Keep your eye out for Nick Harris.

I called CEH being the best fit for this offense, let’s see if I can go 2 for 2.

If he lives up to his potential I doubt they cut him loose.

They'll just pay the man for another couple years.

He'd only be 26. The way we'd most likely use him? He'd still be in his prime.

I'd love to draft Shenault but they'll need to give up a 4th and a 5th to jump to 48, which may not be high enough to get him.

I'm hoping he continues to fall.

I was re-watching the SB coaches film, and noticed that LDT actually played pretty well for most of the game. I didn't specifically watch him on every snap, but there were several snaps, including the WASP play where I had to rewind it and realize that LDT was more than holding his own. I mean he stoned his guy on several consecutive plays, handed off smoothly and took the hand offs just as well. Against the best DL in football.

It's possible that Andy believes that LDT will play at that level this season, and that Rankin is coming back. Maybe they think they just need one OL from this draft. Or maybe none, as we do have a couple guys from last year (Allegretti and someone) that could fill in until Rankin comes back.

If that's their thinking, then our remaining picks might be targeting a CB, LB, and maybe a WR.

He's going to be polarizing because for a team like us with Reid, he's a weapon to be used all over the place, to a team like say Tennessee, he's a middling WR they can't figure out how to use.

I think we'll see the Chiefs trading up in days 2 and 3.

There's only so many roster spots available on this team. These 5-7 round guys may not even make this squad so the picks may be more valuable as trade compensation for a guy they think can contribute.

I don’t really like Shenault for this offense personally.

I think it’s best CB/LB/S available in R2, all day long.

Exactly.

I don't get all these people that say this wasn't a need.

Who the **** was going to be the feature back in 2020? 28 year old Damien Williams, the guy that's had 1,200 rushing yards and 12 TD's in SIX Seasons?

No ****ing way.

I'm curious why you don't like him....

The new CBA doesn't allow for holdouts

This is the only problem I have with the pick. Ideally you want to draft players, especially in the first rd, who you give 2nd contracts to. You want those guys there for at least 7-8 years ideally.

It seems like nowadays it isn’t wise to give a 2nd contract to a RB compared to drafting a safety, corner, or pass rusher that is far more difficult to find.

You know how many guys get a second contract with the team they start with? about 20%..the Chiefs currently have 5 of those guys on their roster, 5.

And who says we can’t give a second contract to him? It’s not like RBs can’t get second year deals....you just have to be careful who you give them to.

Holy shit, this is just an absolutely ****ing awful take.

Good ****ing God.

But if you hit on your 2nd and 3rd rounder at higher positions of value, the 2nd contract can go to them.

Which will likely happen on the first day of training camp as he's walking from the lockerrom to the field.

There are some seriously dumb mother****ers in this thread.

JFC.

If he was a 4th round pick, it's an accurate take, at 32 no, he's going to play a lot right away.

Pretty obvious they viewed RB as a problem as much as a ton of fans did.

I think they want elite or near elite athleticism from their receivers moving forward and that’s not Shenault’s game. I don’t see him being a great separator from coverage at the NFL level.

Damien Williams is a really nice role player, change of pace, 3rd down back etc, he's nowhere near a feature guy.

Yea is anybody saying the Ekeler deal is bad?

If you’re going to pay a RB, a guy that catches passes like a slot WR is different than a workhorse 25+ carries guy like Henry.

He actually is a great athlete for his size, if he lost 10lbs he'd be ridiculously fast.

What I like about him is he brings a playmaker in a different body type.

No offense but that rarely happens with any draft pick, especially a running back.

Furthermore, the Chiefs second Super Bowl Window is open right now. They're bringing back 20 of 22 starters and the only thing the offense is missing is a true Feature Back, which they have in CEH.

Now, their window is wide open for the next 4 seasons, which I'll take every single day of the week.