Those were the things he was teaching at his camp. The little stuff.

No Super Bowl run in 2019 without him.

If the Chiefs were relying on Hardman in 2019 as the #2 WR…they are ****ed.


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How did Sammy do in the playoffs in 2019 dumbass? How did Hardman do in the playoffs in 2020?

You’re such a ****ing moron when it comes to Hardman.


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Learn to ****ing read dumbass.

I’m talking specifically about his regular season production.

Mike Hughes? LMAO

Compare the guys Dorsey drafted/signed to those squads vs Veach and whoever the cleveland GM is. Not even close.

Yes, getting what is essentially a starting nickel corner for a late round pick deserves mention.

Yeah of course because he is shit in the playoffs.

Mecole must give you a helluva reach around when he’s got his cock up your ass.


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You reach so hard you mentioned Niang who's played exactly 1 game. Compare that to Dorseys picks and then name 1 good first round pick Veach has made.

What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
 

Wrong thread

I was clearly talking about the positives from game 1.

Just to be clear, you are also already making judgement off of Brown after 1 game. What’s the difference?

Also, Veach has literally had just 1 1st round pick.

My point was simply about Watkin’s production in comparison to Hardman’s in the regular season. It’s been the Kelce and Hill show during the regular season, and will continue to be regardless of who our 3rd option is.

Nah I'm hoping Brown will be somewhere between average and really good for conteact purposes

I have said this a lot, but watching the all-22, defenses just played us differently with Watkins on the field.

So, numbers don't tell the whole story when it comes to the contribution Sammy made to the team.

Even with Hardman's speed, he just doesn't command the attention that Sammy did.

I have defended Hardman because it's his 3rd year, and he didn't have a training camp between his 1st and 2nd year, plus he just wasn't asked to be a bigger part of the offense because we had Sammy.

But, after rewatching the game, I am ready to see Kemp, and even Fountain, getting playing instead of Robinson and Hardman. Because, they really couldn't do any worse than Robinson, Harden, or even Pringle.

How will we even know if they can play on offense if they don't get game reps? I know people have a hard-on for Pringle, but he doesn't really get separation outside of plays when Mahomes scrambles.

I know that Hill and Kelce will always be the 1st, 2nd, and sometimes maybe even the 3rd option, and for very good reason, but we could be even better on offense if we could develop a legitimate WR2.

Or hell, even a legitimate TE2.

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Patrick Mahomes is on the sideline. Andy asks him, 'Who do you want as an option to throw to after we put Kelce and Hill on the field? Watkins or Mecole?'

Regular season, post season, Super Bowl, take your pick of the game.
Both players healthy, Mahomes gets to choose who he thinks is the better option.

Who do you think Patrick asks for?

Now ask the same question of Kelce and Hill, who do THEY want on the field either getting open or just drawing attention to make their lives easier?

Ask anyone in the league, assuming Watkins is healthy enough to take the field, who they want????

Mecole adds a wrinkle. He's not a real extra receiver out on the field.

Many of you seem to think I’m arguing that Hardman is as good or better, even after I’ve already acknowledged that Watkins stepped up big when it mattered most.

That wasn’t the point.

I’m simply talking about regular season production.

He actually fell forward and got a first down on Sunday. Baby steps. 😂

You’re assuming Watkins is healthy. He never is, so the whole discussion is moot.

This dumbass can't even keep track of his helmet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dave Toub said Mecole Hardman was wearing Tyreek Hill&#39;s helmet on his punt return on Sunday.</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1438546388854448128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If he was talking to his posistion coach or OC and didnt realize the down and distance im not even mad.

Gotta lay off Sammy.

He was our leading postseason receiver (iirc) during our SB run and could line up against guys like Sherman and beat them one-on-one.

Robinson and Mecole ain't doing that.

Thats his problem. Being a sprinter got him to the NFL. He's not learned how to be a football player yet. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed but he's smart enough to learn routes and the playbook. Athletic enough to run a route properly. So what's the hold up?

He had a decent game on Sunday. A bunch I go"real" WR plays and catches instead of them having to dial up special plays for him. Still had a few dumb moments but good game overall

He always plays well vs Baltimore for some reason. It's the other 30 teams that he struggles against.

Limited snaps but I honestly thought Pringle looked better. Guess he was up against their absolute wasters, but still.

He stuck a spoonful of Jiff in his mouth. Skimmed some off the top and put the spoon back in the jar. Disgusting as hell, but effective.

Hardman was not bad at all. 5 for 8 for 65ish if i remember right. I woldnt be pissed if he did that in the fashion that he did it, all season. It didnt feel like they were trying to force him the ball.

Credit where it's due, he ran hard today. Looked like a football player with the ball in his hands.

We'll still need him to develop legitimate WR skills but even if he never does he is still one of the better gadget guys in the league.

He didn’t do anything to dispel the idea that he’s a gadget guy, but he did prove that he can be a damn good gadget… he ran with real power on that td, his speed alone created so much momentum that he became unstoppable

They felt comfortable with him running a gagdget behind the LOS play...when it came to being a WR not so much.

We have nothing at WR past Hill. Jag city compared to other teams in our division and around the league. The group sucks bad.

The best question is what had he shown to be given the #2 job without a backup plan for a team with Super Bowl aspirations?

They did try to acquire Juju

What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
 

I think staylor26 has sucked the manhood out of him. Once staylor26 wraps his mouth around your cock & starts sucking…it’s over. He sucks the cum right out of these guys.

We need to put him on Brady & Herbert. He will suck them dry.

Come on you little bundle of sticks! Start sucking!


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The fact that Pringle and Kemp are getting open is still a positive development for me. Rarely see Hardman getting that open. I think he is what he is at this point - a gadget guy that might catch a dump off once in awhile. He isn't going to be hauling in a lot downfield unless it's a broken play.

I like the trendline of our running game and Pringle going forward. And Fortson too.

I think the offense will be as good as it has been in three seasons at the end of the year, how much the defense improves will determine if we have 10 wins or 13.

I get that it’s annoying to pass on someone like DK in favor of Hardman, but teams miss way worse than that in the second round all the time.

At least this not great pick is still effective at what he does. Sure, he’s a gadget, but he’s a good gadget. Plenty of second round picks don’t even last 3 years in the league, let alone actually make a positive contribution occasionally.

He is what he is. A good gadget player. But a bad WR. Not being able to take advantage of Hill and Kelce being doubled is pathetic.

Wonder what the Texans would want for Brandin Cooks.

We need to bring in a proven receiver. We did it with Maclin we did it with Watkins. Both contributed more than Hardman ever will.


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Hardman may be the only player in the league that could have gotten that TD running through that much traffic because he can make himself small and run tough for his size.

That was an awesome play.

He is who he is. A slender guy who is super fast and is great with the ball in his hands. He could help the Chiefs win and he could remain affordable enough to re-sign.

tons of untapped potential on this OL...by year's end their blocking is going to be a nightmare with our speed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This jet sweep pop pass, was just on backside block away from going the distance. If Trey Smith gets Hardman’s defender. Thuney can work up to 24 and Hardman houses this. Smith doesn’t realize how strong he is sometimes. He sends 98 tumbling. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/Le7PfNY9KH">pic.twitter.com/Le7PfNY9KH</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1442917395580915713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s the only play he is good at.


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Dude has long TD receptions on unforgettable plays in games against playoff teams, the Patriots in 2019, the Titans in 2019. The Ravens in 2019 and 2020. And the TD against the Saints in 2020 was not a long play, but was a clutch catch on a pass that only Mahomes would throw.

I guess it takes 50 years between Super Bowls to create a fan base that has so many guys that make up their mind to badmouth a player all the time and never give any credit even on great plays.

The Georgia Bulldogs probably would not have made that National Championship game without Mecole Hardman.

future comp pick

9 yards a catch for a 4.3 guy is just awful

he will never be more than go go gadget upscale mccluster

Like I said in the game thread, Hardman over DK Metcalf will forever haunt me...

He's too quick and too fast to not be open semi-consistently when he's running traditional routes.

The big issue is that he's JAG at every moment up to the point in which the ball is secured in his possession, and then he becomes a very dangerous weapon.

At this point, just send him deep on any play he isn't used as the gadget guy. Maybe then he can at least clear out one of those deep safeties for Kelce or Hill to work the intermediate.

He has zero football awareness. It was pure luck, not skill that he got both feet down on that sideline pass

It seems like too often he bobbles the ball before securing it.

We've began using him as just a speedster you flare out to the flat. Throw when almost wide open, and see how many yards he can run straight due to his speed. There is a role for that when you have Kelce and Hill blanketed, but he's never going to be the player we all hoped he would be.

Yep, which is why I was careful with my word choice lol

I opted for “secured in his possession” as opposed to “the ball touches his hands” because he’s dropped, bobbled and muffed too many passes/punts for me to say otherwise.

yay

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It wasn&#39;t our night on Sunday, but <a href="https://twitter.com/MecoleHardman4?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MecoleHardman4</a> displayed how he&#39;s continuing to develop into a complete receiver ⤵️ <a href="https://t.co/Eiezph8qgO">pic.twitter.com/Eiezph8qgO</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1447987136783912965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shady McCoy is that you?

Yep, I believe it/sarcasm

Or does not look for the ball when it’s there. He has poor awareness on the field. Wish he was able to improve in a big way for KC, but seems like he will probably end up somewhere else at the end of his rookie contract.

8 yards per catch is elite.


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He’s probably one of the best gadget players in the NFL.


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He’s really only good at one thing- those shovel-pass/end-around type plays

It’s too bad he hasn’t developed his route running, catching etc because he’s clearly a great athlete and is very dangerous with the ball in his hands

It is blatantly obvious how much Mahomes doesn't like him.

dropping two passes that hit you right in the hands in the same game is pretty bad

i also saw a play where mecole looked unsure where to go and mahomes yelled out before the snap "GO THERE!" LMAO

Mecole is a dumbass

He just doesn’t end up where he’s supposed to end up when he runs routes 8 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. Anything past that and it’s like he forgets where he’s supposed to be. He doesn’t play well off script either. He is fast though! I don’t think he’d do any better with any other quarterback or in another system. This is the best version of him unfortunately.

this will probably never happen, but i'd love for him to bulk up and play RB

To be honest it truly seems like Hardman doesn't take his craft seriously making rookie mistakes, thus pissing Mahomes off and only trusts' Tyreek and Travis to make the catch

Let Hardman run more deep routes as a decoy. (Rather than Hill.) He can pull one or more safeties deep. Open things up for the others. Anything to get Hill/Kelce less attention from the opposing defense. Go route. Post. Skinny post. Rinse. Repeat. Open up the underneath for those that know where & when to be in their routes.

Nov 2 trade deadline fodder? Some team could use him, but enough?

Two good games in a row. If Gordon can take the WR2 role, Hardman can be dangerous facing the opposing teams 4th best corner.

For the record I still like him and still have high hopes for many big plays in his career as a Chief and help us win Super Bowls.



If they get rid of him it won't hurt my feelings but will remember him in high regards for his contributions his rookie season that helped bless us with a Super Bowl LIV victory and game changing momentum in the playoffs.

He’s been a lot better this year than last

One bomb doesn't change a mostly disappointing season.

He has as many catches as his first year and has more than half his total last year and it’s only week 6. His average is way down but he’s becoming more of a possession receiver

He made that awesome grab down the sideline against WFT and I was ready to get my hopes up with Hardman again. Then he fumbled shortly after. Those vertical throws on the sideline will be there against a Cover 2 favoring Hill/Kelce. And oftentimes it will be against a team's third-best coverage player.

He's a gadget dumpoff guy....that is not a possession receiver. Mecole has made maybe three plays over 10 air yards this year.

Travis Kelce is a possession receiver.

He also had the deep ball sideline play against Buffalo. Very fortunate to get his toe down inbounds on that one, but it's still 2 games in a row with those type of deep plays for him. The fumble against Redskins was a bummer though. The whole team seems to be snakebit with that stuff this year.

And then there's THIS asshole!

I was patient, but now I'm done. **** this guy.

I was done with Conley when he couldn't hang on to the ****ing football. And now I'm done with Fartface Hardman.

Metcalf, Johnson, McLaurin.

We got Hardman.

Good ****ing job Veach.

Can't find a solid Number 2 WR for this team!

Could be Gordon. Hard to say though since Andy won't play him.

I can only imagine this offense with Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, DK Metcalf, and Jonathan Taylor. That should've been a reality. Instead we got Mecole Hardman and Clyde Edwards-Helaire out there coughing footballs all over the turf.

Gordon was blanketed by a LB for like 5 seconds on the Mahome's INT.

Jonathan Taylor, or at the very least DeAndre Swift over CEH should've been obvious.

Hardman was a panic move over the Tyreek shit which should have been our first clue that Brett was in over his skis. Good GM's don't panic and reach to fill a perceived need.

Oh he played today? I thought I saw him out there for a play or two. It's been a month and this guy barely sees the field. It's feeling a whole lot like this years edition of Shady McCoy or LeVeon Bell. A big splash acquisition on offense that is the "missing piece" and by week 13 he's a healthy scratch for the rest of the season. I hope that's not the case and this guy starts getting playing time and produces.