This sucks. I'm not taking sides, I'm just saying it sucks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a text I got this morning from a MLB agent on the lockout: <a href="https://t.co/4T0IKSTxbc">pic.twitter.com/4T0IKSTxbc</a></p>&mdash; Michael Mayer (@mikemayer22) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/status/1499049010576953352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clearly the actions of those who wanted the season to start on time. The owners will undoubtedly start seriously shifting their positions in a few months but not before then.

Don't get me wrong, **** the owners, but if they didn't lock the players out, chances are they'd strike during the season.

Yes, technically the owners could have kept business as usual.

If anyone has been following this, both parties had adversarial talks for the shortened pandemic 2020 season. Since spring 2021, they've made no progress in talks for this CBA up until Dec. 1, 2021.

There's no way the owners and MLBPA would have made any head way on a new deal without the pressure of a lockout or a deadline.

If they chose the business as usual route, a strike could have happened in August and been a repeat of 1994.

I would rather get this dark cloud of that way first so we can have five years of labor peace. There's still a chance they get something done and we get a respectable 154-game, 142-game season.

let me get this straight…..An agent thought MLB should have continued to let players sign contracts? I’m shocked :eek:

I love baseball but I think the season starting at the end of April/first of May would be better for the sport. Royals playing in the shitty ass AL Central means those road games in Detroit and Cleveland are played in the middle of the day for April.

I have no doubt, but let’s not pretend that there was any real good faith attempt to start the season on time from the owners. Locking the players during the actual season and making them hurt has clearly been an essential part of their CBA negotiation tactics the entire time.

Raise the salary floor, put in an actual cap. Get rid of ridiculous blackout restrictions. Keep playoff structure the way it is

I’m thinking it will be closer to a 80 or 100 game season given how adversarial both sides are, but I’d be surprised if this goes on all year. Owners won’t give up that playoff revenue at the end if they can help it (and they certainly can help it).

The Jays project as one of the best teams in the league this year, so it would also be nice to get something in for that reason too.

Because owners liked the status quo of the CBA from 2017-2021, while players did not like the status quo.

So with status quo in place without a lockout, August would have rolled around and the players could have boom, hit the owners with a strike.

I totally agree that 80-100 games is likely. My post about 144, 152 games is wishful thinking, being an optimist.

I feel like the shutdown the entire season issue -- five-year free agency -- is off the table, so I don't see a 2004-05 NHL scenario either.

It's just sad that we have a fun, young core of players like Juan Soto, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Fernando Tatis Jr., Ronald Acuna that are going to have two of their prime years be potentially the two shortest seasons in baseball history. Good luck evaluating their Hall of Fame resumes in 20 years.

With the shortened season, it puts pressure on the Jays to perform because losing skids, slumps are devastating in an abbreviated season. They also play in a division where the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox are all capable of playing at a high level.

Woof. I haven't followed this too much overall, but it seems like it could be a win for everyone with the right approach.

The MLB players might have it a bit 'too' good and I am almost always 100% pro player.

MLBPA union reps are the players making the most money.

**** the Agents!


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You realize Brett hit left-handed don't you? Oppo for him would be left field.

NFL, MLB and NBA players are greedy ****s. MLB most of all. If they wanted a deal done so they could play then it would be done. They play a game for money and clout and that's it. They don't care about the fans or any of that shit no matter what they say. They want as much money as they can get. Ward is a perfect example. He will get overpaid by a loser team instead of taking a good deal with us. He could care less about winning just give me the money. That attitude will make him suck.

All this shit is on the players and their attitude. No other job would employees get to act like they do.

Dammit! I even thought it out. “Brett was a lefty, oppo gonna be out toward Tyler O’Neill…”

And then STILL typed in RF.

Yeah, the shift is rarely used against righties anyway. So it really is lefties that have to deal with it.

Oh. Well if an AGENT says it…

You sure do have a type when it comes to the sources you choose to believe.

Again - this is the same approach the owners attempted in ‘94. The players wouldn’t come to the table and eventually the strike happened. To act like the owners could just plod bravely forward especially in light of how aggressive and strident the players have been in this process is to ignore history.

Okay. So you made up your mind on Day 1 and have ignored anything that didn’t come from an agent or MLBPA mouthpiece since.

Got it.

I have a hard time backing the MLBPA. They have fully guaranteed contracts and basically no salary cap. The CBT is the flimsiest version of a salary cap you can have and even if it was more of a deterrent to keep teams from spending, it's still millions of dollars more than the NFL salary cap.

Raising the CBT doesn't do much for the average player, but putting an actual salary cap with a floor forces teams to spend more.

Say the floor was $120 million last year. 13 teams would have been under that number.

These are the teams and how far under they are

COL $4 mil
MIL $21 mil
TEX $25 mil
KC $29 mil
ARI $29 mil
OAK $30 mil
DET $34 mil
SEA $37 mil
TB $50 mil
MIA $62 mil
PIT $66 mil
CLE $70 mil
BAL $78 mil

I see the owners had proposed a $100 mil floor and $180 mil CBT. If the MLBPA countered with $120 mil floor and $180 mil CBT, then MLB might agree.

Last year only 8 teams would have been over the $180 mil

LAD $86 mil
NYY $25 mil
NYM $21 mil
PHI $17 mil
HOU $14 mil
BOS $7 mil
LAA $349k

Teams that didn't meet the floor the total is $535 million
If the floor were $100 million then the total would be $275 million

Teams over CBT total is $170.349 million

That's between $105 million and $365 million more for the players.
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I'm not sure what the big pushback is from the players is.

yup

Nothing more than a mindless dogmatic refusal being pushed primarily by a few superstars and powerful agents.

Again - it’s amazing that suddenly a union is ARGUING for trickle down economic theory.

You're such a dipshit.

They get paid what they get paid, because without the players there is no product and the billionaire owners wouldn't be taking in hundreds of millions to billions of dollars a year without them.

MLB owners need to take a page from the NFL owners playbook and target the average players.

The players need better representation, because it seems like they're not playing just because the CBT isn't high enough. That literally effects like 1% of players, possibly 5% at most. It's ****ing dumb.

This whole thing reminds me of how the highly paid QBs hated the newest NFL labor deal. It worked for 90% of the players but those QBs wept about it.

The MLBPA should focus on helping the vast majority not the privileged few.

OMG you idiot. Owners own in all billion dollar businesses. Only in sports do the workers demand such high salaries. If you become a billionaire does that mean you pay massive millions to every employee? **** no. But without the workers there would be no product? So ****ing what? There are thousands of players that would play for a lot less. Players are greedy ****s with big egos and they make a shit ton, even the bad ones. The only reason the season is not starting is players greed.

That's why the latest CBA for the NFL was done so quickly. The owners catered to the JAGs.

Everyone go tell your boss that you want what these greedy ****ing players want and see what happens.

At this point in my life I could careless if MLB ever plays again and the same goes for the NBA.

Gave up watching years ago.

The players (most of them) have been millionaires since their late teens early 20’s and have never worked a hard day in their life. They don’t understand the value of a dollar.

There's about 1200 people in the world that can fill the spots in the MLB. Anyone can work an office job.

I was gonna ask if you were really this ****ing stupid, but I already know the answer.

True dat.

Ted Williams or Juan Soto.

Damn I love watching that guy hit.

And I spoke to that as a by-product of the floor as well. It would alleviate some of the service time manipulation and get young players paid sooner because teams would use the floor to extend their own guys more often than they'd dip into an inflate FA pool.

It solves SO many problems.

And the players just won't see the forest for the trees.

This is a player issue. They're getting in their own way.

For the 2021 year, the MLB base salary was $570,000, the NFL was $660,000 and the NBA was $925,000.

These are salaries are prorated. So if a player gets to the major league level, they don't make $570,000. They make that salary divided by the amount of days they are at the MLB level.

Just two years ago, 398 MLB players out of 1267 in the MLBPA earned at least $1Million. That's 31%. The players representing the player's union in negotiations are all living on very healthy contracts. They aren't negotiation their own contracts though, they are negotiating more topics than most of us have clue about.

The narrative that all players are greedy scum bags isn't true. They are physically gifted far more than you and I, and bring their owners millions of dollars with their talents.

Few people, if anybody at all, are arguing against the idea of players near the bottom of the scales getting paid more or sooner.

The dispute is whether or not anything the MLBPA is pushing for or digging their heels in on would have a meaningful impact on that.

These middle relievers that spend their early/mid 20s working through the ranks, get called up at 26 and then ride the AAA shuttle up and down through their 3 options seasons so they accumulate maybe a year total on a major league roster - boy that's tough. Those guys will be 29 years old, still 5 year removed from being MLB free agents and with the way bullpens are managed, they've probably burned hot and bright and will be shot by the time they're 2nd year arb eligible at 32 yrs old.

Granted, they'll have made a couple million by then so it's not nothing, but it does seem like something can/should be done to help later arriving prospects who teams are going to ride until they cost real money and then replace.

But that's just not where the majority of the effort seems to be going right now.

In what ways do you feel the MLBPA should be pushing more on that topic? I'm not using a sarcastic voice when I ask this, I'm genuinely curious of your thoughts.

Would the increased minimum salary proposal address it? Or the bonus pool for pre-arb players address it? And weren't both areas something the union was working to address?

I think the players offering to raise the pre-arb bonus pool from $10 million to $100 million (down from $105 million) isn't any sort of 'offer' at all. That's an invitation to go **** yourself. Get serious about that conversation.

And at last check, the owners had accepted the minimum salary proposal.

Well they aren't same for one but you are too ****ing stupid to realize that. You are just labor. You are not the cost of goods and labor combined like baseball players are.

Labor costs in normal business is 25%
Cost of Goods in normal business is about 30%.

Ballplayers essentially should equal 55% of the revenue expenses but keep being a jackass.

Only 1,200 people in the world can play baseball? Every player in AAA can fill a spot and would for a shit ton less. I am only pointing out the fact that players are greedy ****s and are always trying to get more more more money. There is no gun to their head to play. They don't like the deal then quit. Just like NFL players crying about their battered up bodies. You can quit, you don't have to play.

If you think the current players are not replaceable then your wrong. Everyone is replaceable in any job. Product may not be great for a few years but they all can be replaced.

Ever watch college baseball? I have season tickets to Mizzou.

And let me tell you, you might as well be watching little league. The gap between excellent college teams and bad MLB teams is absolutely immense.

No, these guys are nothing resembling replaceable if you expect the sport to continue. The quality of play would be disastrous.

Only an idiot defends the owners and the billions that they’re making each year.

And minor league baseball is a step above that and it's not that good. That's why they have to market them as events with the silly promos and food. The product is bad.

I love college baseball because you can literally sit at the fence and talk to the guys as they're in the on-deck circle. It's amazingly family friendly. And really, high level college ball (SEC caliber play) is probably akin to A+ or maybe some pretty shitty AA teams. It's a lot of fun.

And as part of that you get to sit behind home plate and watch this stuff at field level.

And I have played a lot of ball in my time but let me tell you, TV makes baseball look SIGNIFICANTLY easier than it is. You get yourself down at field level and watch it, suddenly you realize just how hard the game is and the insane amount of skill it requires to make it look as easy at it is.

Honestly, I don't feel like any of us can truly put ourselves in the shoes of these guys. I'm good at my job but I ain't MLB baseball player good at my job. These guys are just crazy good.

Regardless of what any agents or MLBPA mouthpieces may say about anything, the owners' strategy with regard to these negotiations has been obvious from day 1. Delay, delay, delay. They never had any intention of starting the season on time and there's plenty of evidence to indicate that much.

Only for a little while. I'll live with it if it results in a level playing field across MLB. Shut it down for 5 years if that's what it takes.

OK, now I see. So people that own a sports franchise should be slammed for making money even though that's the point of any business? So owners should just not maximize their profits? Every big business on the planet does what they have to do to max out profits but in sports the owners are perceived as evil for trying to get the most bang for their buck.

I am not defending the owners. They are just as bad as the players. They all are greedy ****s.

The owners aren't evil for trying to make money. They're completely full of shit, though, for sending out their errand boy Manfred out to argue that they're not making loads of money off owning these teams.

So the MLB was going to raise the pre-arb pool from 5M to just 10M, and the players were originally asking for 115M. I don't think that's fair to say they weren't asking for enough when it's 115% more than the MLB's lousy 5M increase. I know the MLBPA backed off the proposal for super 2 status qualifications, but do we know where they had supposedly settled on the pre-arb pool number? Or is that still one of the hang ups?

I personally don't like watching people strike out. I just hate it. If the ball was constantly in play it would be much more entertaining. But it's just a boring sport, it is what it is. We wouldn't like it if it wasn't America's past time when this nation started to be a world power. The only reason any of us like baseball is because our parents watched it.

Parents never watched baseball. I started watching it when I was 13 or 14 because I loved to play.

You are just so dumb that it's pointless to have a discussion with you.

respectfully disagree.

I love watching baseball because I played the sport for quite some time, and can appreciate a 9-8 game full of home runs, as well as a 1-0 pitcher's duel.

A strikeout is somewhat equivalent to watching a D-lineman stuff a run for -1 yard (you hate to see it happen to you, but love to see it when it's your team doing the stuffing).

Not true. Maybe I'm speaking for just myself, but I love baseball. Played it since I was 5. Played catch with the old man and my best friend in the front yard. I can still hear the sound of that loud pop when a hard thrown ball hit the mit in the sweet spot. I had a 'foolish' childhood dream to play pro ball, eventually realized my potential wasn't good enough, and when I watch games now, it is somewhat of a satisfaction of someone living out my dream. I still get goosebumps when I drive through a small town and see the glow of the lights in the distance. There, some kid isn't satisfied until his uniform is dirty. The smells, the sounds, the feel of hitting the ball, the chatter in the dugout, the feeling of wearing the uniform, all of it. I loved it all.

So I watch baseball because I loved to play it, and I enjoy watching it. Even in today's style, I get satisfaction in admiring a nasty slider or changeup that buckles a hitter at the knees. There's more strikeouts today, but I still find things to admire about the game. And someday, they will make some changes to the rules to 'add more excitement'. I won't like it at first, but I'll still watch. And I'll find new things to admire.

I won't deny, it's lost a lot of popularity, and to the younger generation it's probably 'boring'. But I watch it because I love the game.

I think a lot of people are baseball fans because they played it as a kid.

In small town rural America, especially before the late 1990's, the only option for kids to play organized sports was little league. Basketball and football weren't nearly as accessible and in most cases, didn't even exist for kids younger than junior high.

Baseball was the defacto kids game everywhere I ever lived.

Nailed it. Football will always be my favorite, but baseball was different for the reason you are saying. I was wearing a uniform at the age of 5. That didn't happen in football or basketball until I was in the 7th grade.

I figured the emergence of traveling baseball over the years would have led to a bigger audience, but it really hasn't. It may have hurt it. It may have caused too big of a gap between the better players and the average players turning the average players away too soon.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Before delivering &quot;best and final offer,&quot; 30 MLB owners gathered on a Zoom call, per 3 sources.<br><br>4 voted no, because they thought it was too generous (!).<br><br>More will vote no if CBT over $220. So, a DOA offer was too high for some owners.<br><br>Details:<a href="https://t.co/KFx9WaBdjW">https://t.co/KFx9WaBdjW</a></p>&mdash; Andy Martino (@martinonyc) <a href="https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1499497290972684291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Angels, Diamondbacks, Reds and Tigers owners opposed MLB luxury tax increase to $220 million. MLB also proposed including player meal money in calculation of luxury tax, which irked players. <a href="https://t.co/gBKrqAx9wV">https://t.co/gBKrqAx9wV</a></p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1499624274298126338?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Back yard baseball games with all the kids in the neighborhood were ****ing lit!

I couldn't care less about what you think about anything. CP is a message board. Not real life for anyone.

The problem was that we could always find at least three guys to go play some form of football.

Baseball takes at least 5 or 6 along with a bucket of baseballs and a damn big open space.

The logistics were just a lot tougher

That’s why we played wiffle ball! 2 on 2. Small yard worked. “Ghosty” runners. Nobody wanted to go retrieve the ball when we fouled it into the old lady’s yard next door. Man she was mean.

Man we had a group of 8-10 every night and a giant back yard. I had more fun playing backyard baseball than high school sports tbh

A salary cap would be way way better for the average player. Also those barely making the roster. Thats the majority of players. They play on that hope, one day you will get your own $100 million contract too,

The MLB should follow the recent NFL deal. Make it a great deal for those players. They get big raises. They are the majority. Get them to vote.

My favorite sports to play as a kid was rollerhockey in the parking lot of the neighborhood pool.

Man that was a blast. And invariably the game would end when things started getting heated. You're not really supposed to be checking guys (there's no boards, afterall) but somebody would be trying to get down the side of the 'rink' and he'd get hip checked over the curb into a fence and all hell would break loose.

I could snap the hell out of that little ball, man.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: MLB, MLBPA lawyers met today, planning to meet again tomorrow. MLB has suggested Tuesday as deadline, in its eyes, for 3 things: play 162 games, and for players to get full pay &amp; full service time. But, pay/service/sked can’t be unilaterally chosen—needs to be negotiated</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501011100178997248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB has told the Players Association it expects to cancel another week of games without a deal reached tomorrow, sources tell me and <a href="https://twitter.com/kenrosenthal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KenRosenthal</a>.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501018033921343489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Newest proposal from the MLB should be enough to get this done.

On service time, with @Ken_Rosenthal:

• A team that brings up a player for Opening Day can net 3 draft picks over time, one pick per year, if that player does well in voting


That's kinda interesting.

what does that mean? Voting for what? Player of the year? All-Star game?

This is why they are not playing? Again only the elite of the elite get this treatment to be called up later to get another year of service. Maybe effects 1 player a year.

All the other shit going the players way like no salary cap and they are still not playing over 1 player out of hundreds getting another year of service time before they get $100+ million guaranteed contract handed to them by another team.

https://www.outkick.com/so-called-in...ts-they-serve/

You know coverage of the MLB lockout is slanted toward the players when an agent is offering praise.

And not just any agent. We’re talking about super agent Scott Boras, who told The Washington Post that coverage of the lockout is “the most accurate coverage, factually, of any labor negotiation I’ve been involved in.’”

Boras has been a big pain in the backside for MLB team owners and executives for decades. He has played a major role in inflated salaries and player movement. He’s rich and comes across as incredibly slimy.

So if he’s happy, well, you can only guess how remarkably favorable coverage of the lockout has been for the players.

Of course, this isn’t just limited to baseball. Insiders in all sports have sold their souls to agents in their desperate quest for Twitter scoops.

Actually, a lot of national sports writers today are represented by the same agencies that represent the players. For instance, ESPN NBA reporter Adrian Wojnarowski is represented by CAA, which lists some of the league’s best and brightest among its clients.

So when an agent says, “jump,” national insiders often ask, “how high?”

As a result, sports writers are no longer actual writers with opinions. At least, not their own opinions. Instead, they walk on eggshells, treading lightly so as to not offend their “sources,” which are always “agents.”

This isn’t to say team owners are right and players are wrong. This isn’t taking any sort of side. But that’s what the sports media is supposed to do. Try to be fair, then form opinions on fairness.

That’s not what many of today’s so-called insiders are doing. They’re just playing a game of trying to one-up the other in kissing agents’ butts.

The result has been vanilla stories, written with no soul or personal opinions, and quite frankly, unreliable coverage. The agents have dived head first into the sportswriting world, and now your sports stories are brought to you almost entirely by them.

No this isn't holding up the game. I just found it interesting.

Looks like there's still a shot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: MLB officials are reviewing latest MLBPA counteroffer, with the possibility of a CBA deal before daybreak still alive. <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLBNetwork</a></p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1501428192124485633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we cross the 2:30 a.m. mark, baseball bargaining has now hit its latest point in this round of talks. The sides started in the 10 o’clock hour Tuesday, so they’re in Hour 17. MLB and the MLBPA are still working. Issues remain.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501461907060015104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I just want to see MJ Melendez hit it over the fence and Aldaberto Mondesi injure his oblique. Is that too much to ask?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, sleep well, the bargaining has ended for tonight, there is no deal yet, and we will see you in the morning - 30 -</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501471185388900354?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Indeed! There is major butt-hurt from the sports media for the owners. Outside of garden variety class-warfare, I'm unsure why. This whole idea that "players are the sport" is stupid. No owners...no organization or investment capital. No fans...no demand. No players...no product. Each of those statements are true. The difference is that nobody has ever really worked for the customer...the fans - specifically the fans of teams with smaller local TV contracts. I want the chance for generational talents to stay in KC if you draft and develop said-player. Nothing about the players or owners proposals in this negotiation works towards making that a reality.

Salary cap and floor is the ticket. But, it aint happening without shutting down baseball for over a year or bringing in AAA replacement players, if they will play. It's a pipe dream. :(

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW YORK — The most significant issue remaining in talks, although not the only, is said to be direct draft pick compensation, the elimination of the qualifying offer. The players want it, MLB has proposed it — but MLB wants the international draft, which is no small matter/give.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1501597583579525122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The international draft appears to be the last big remaining obstacle to reach a labor deal today. MLB badly seeks it, and will eliminate all qualifying offers for free agents in return. The union still is opposed as it receives input from players, former players and agents.</p>&mdash; Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1501579226063028228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ortiz: “The system in the Dominican is not ready to have a draft next year. The Dominican is not the U.S. You can’t snap a finger and everything lines up to operate the right way. We’ve got a new president who’s trying to improve things. We need to do this slowly.”</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1501605516505714692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fernando Tatis Jr.: &quot;The International Draft is going to kill baseball in DR. It&#39;s going to affect us a lot, because there will be many young people who used to give them the opportunity to get a bonus and with the draft it will not be the same ”, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ElCaribeRD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ElCaribeRD</a>. <a href="https://t.co/KpUm6KEazb">pic.twitter.com/KpUm6KEazb</a></p>&mdash; Héctor Gómez (@hgomez27) <a href="https://twitter.com/hgomez27/status/1501545530656186369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Eliminating the QO outright would really sting small-market clubs.

I still don't understand why they EVER went to the new system of taking a pick away from an acquiring team. The old system just granted sandwich picks between the rounds for players who were offered Arb and signed elsewhere.

Just go back to that. It allows teams to attempt to maintain some level of team control for their players but also compensates them if that player finds a better outcome elsewhere. And doesn't do anything to hamper the players market value.

They are constantly doing things to **** over small market clubs. Just look at the god damn draft and how they limited the amount of money they can spend.

I thought the pick being attached was the only issue too, not the qualifying offer itself. The pick attached reduced some players' earning potential on a FA deal, which what it wasn't designed to do.

You see it every year, some players accept the qualifying offer because it's in their best interest to accept it. They won't get the same AAV on the free market that the QO gives them.

Eh, the limits were getting necessary.

The demands from 1.1 to sign were starting to get so outrageous that small market teams were having to make 'business decisions' and passing on the top talents to get guys they could sign.

I get that it interferes with their ability to make splash picks later in the draft, but when bad teams sitting in the top 3 are taking the 10th best talent on the board for fear of not being able to afford their bonus, it was getting out of hand.