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Clyde Frog 06-16-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16337024)
Yikes.

3rd sisters ‘dramatic moment’…cringe. And folks - that’s a bad actress. Sorry Disney. I know it chaps your ass but she’s awful.

Funny how they preempt any criticism by social media bombing. Calling the fans "toxic" and "racist" if we don't find her character appealing or interesting yet they are the ones who shrunk Finn on the Chinese version of the poster. Go figure.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 12:01 AM

so if the hyperdrive is out on the transport, the star destroyer should easily catch them

i bet we get a big space battle to open episode 6 :D

in the fracas, perhaps Obi-Wan takes a starfighter and gets the **** outta dodge with Leia...Vader follows in his ship...tracks Obi-Wan and the Third Sister to Tatooine?

maybe some fun stuff over alderaan in there...maybe Bail shows up in the Tantive...hmm...hmmm...

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 12:38 AM

so great...it's like obi wan clipped his nuts! layers!

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The vengeance Vader has for Kenobi here is helping him tap into the dark side more. Kenobi takes that away in ANH.

My head canon: Vader is peak dark side here due to his rage toward Kenobi and once Obi-Wan takes revenge away in ANH by leaving the material world on his own terms Vader is changed

When Anakin is at his angriest his connection to the dark side is shockingly powerful. It’s almost as if Kenobi recognized this as he aged and decided to remove revenge from Anakin’s heart entirely by robbing him of it.

When he leaves the material world on his own terms in ANH he removes any ability for Vader to embrace vengeance on his own terms while simultaneously reminding him of the power of the light side. Both things put Vader in a better mindset for Luke later on.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 07:51 AM

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...rQ&oe=62B241BE

DJJasonp 06-17-2022 08:53 AM

really enjoyed the last episode. Bummer that people cant watch it for fun, rather than having to tear it apart frame-by-frame like a lame film school professor.

for god's sake......no muppets, no midochlorians, no "meza think", no in-your-face wokeness, and.........bad-ass vader.


It's fun......remember what it was like to see it through the eyes of a 13 year old? It's ok to have fun still.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16337470)
really enjoyed the last episode. Bummer that people cant watch it for fun, rather than having to tear it apart frame-by-frame like a lame film school professor.

for god's sake......no muppets, no midochlorians, no "meza think", no in-your-face wokeness, and.........bad-ass vader.


It's fun......remember what it was like to see it through the eyes of a 13 year old? It's ok to have fun still.

it's completely fun

and editing the jedi temple sparring seamlessly with present day events might be the only time we've ever seen that style of filmmaking in the history of star wars

Sassy Squatch 06-17-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16337390)

LMAO That's pretty good

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 10:00 AM

Red Letter Media reviewing this are hilarious, and sums up the problem with fans today.

"It's not good, but I love it."

"It's a pleasure, but it's not super amazing. It's SUPER OK. But it's SUPER OK, not just OK."

LMAO

DJ's left nut 06-17-2022 10:23 AM

I liked the previous ones.

This one just felt cheap. C’mon, those transports and the little speeders arriving on scene looked awful. It’s the most CGI look and of this has had.

Sassy Squatch 06-17-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16337627)
I liked the previous ones.

This one just felt cheap. C’mon, those transports and the little speeders arriving on scene looked awful. It’s the most CGI look and of this has had.

Production value has been shit tier the entire show, though. Didn't notice anything this episode that was egregiously worse than what came before it.

After that laser gate you could just jaunt around I sort of wrote off critiquing the production too much. They obviously aren't putting their best efforts into it so it ain't worth thinking too much about.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16337627)
I liked the previous ones.

This one just felt cheap. C’mon, those transports and the little speeders arriving on scene looked awful. It’s the most CGI look and of this has had.

that's what you're bitching about?

if a meaningless speeder has to look a little dated, i'm fine with it

this looks better than the prequels - the real sets are ****ing awesome

Sassy Squatch 06-17-2022 10:46 AM

One exception is not de aging Anakin during the flashback sequences when he's dueling Obi Wan. That was a major component of the episode and wouldn't have taken much effort at all to do. Hell, YouTubers have already put out a version that looked great. But whatevs, it's fine

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 10:54 AM

i've read speculation hayden may have demanded they use his real face in his contract

Sassy Squatch 06-17-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16337671)
i've read speculation hayden may have demanded they use his real face in his contract

Huh. Odd, but alright. I actually think not de aging him for the Order 66 scenes was better, anyway. Gives him more of a grizzled appearance.

listopencil 06-17-2022 10:59 AM

Hmm. Did anyone other than me get the feeling that Hayden Christensen is like a Dollar Store version of Keanu Reeves?

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16337675)
Huh. Odd, but alright. I actually think not de aging him for the Order 66 scenes was better, anyway. Gives him more of a grizzled appearance.

Yeah. I think the prequels would have benefited from Anakin being a lot older when he turned.

You can also tell Hayden is a much, much better actor than what was on display in the prequels. Those scripts did him wrong.

DJJasonp 06-17-2022 01:01 PM

Heh, nearly 40 years of stormtroopers being the worst shot ever, but now picking apart laser gates and such.


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Sassy Squatch 06-17-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 16337936)
Heh, nearly 40 years of stormtroopers being the worst shot ever, but now picking apart laser gates and such.


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DJJasonp 06-17-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16338026)
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that was fantastic!ROFL

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 02:06 PM

LMAO

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets...jpg?1565038793

Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 03:15 PM

LMAO

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Hammock Parties 06-17-2022 10:02 PM

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...lA&oe=62B306AB

Bowser 06-18-2022 07:56 AM

Lol

I was hoping for a "putting blaster bolts in General Grievous's chest, you ungrateful bitch" response from Obi-Wan.

Tribal Warfare 06-18-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16338881)
Lol

I was hoping for a "putting blaster bolts in General Grievous's chest, you ungrateful bitch" response from Obi-Wan.

"So Uncivilized"

mr. tegu 06-18-2022 05:38 PM

I’ve gotten through episode three so far. It’s not great but I think it’s not quite as bad as I thought based on a lot of comments. Reva isn’t a great actress but it’s not that bothersome. The most annoying thing was Obi-Wan giving away who they were to the Storm Troopers. It was already a tense enough situation. No need to hit us over the head with it at the expense of him being an idiot saying her real name.

notorious 06-18-2022 05:45 PM

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24 'Game of Thrones' actors who have played 'Star Wars' characters

There are some good ones in there.

HOT.

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Bowser 06-19-2022 08:22 AM

Whoa, that's kinda cool.

The Sand sisters, tho. Dammit, girls.

notorious 06-19-2022 08:35 AM

Not the same Sand Snake, but who cares?

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Baby Lee 06-19-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16339509)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/22-game-t...132855454.html

24 'Game of Thrones' actors who have played 'Star Wars' characters

There are some good ones in there.

HOT.

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BigRedChief 06-19-2022 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16337705)
Yeah. I think the prequels would have benefited from Anakin being a lot older when he turned.

You can also tell Hayden is a much, much better actor than what was on display in the prequels. Those scripts did him wrong.

Come on man.... The worst casting decision by Lucas ever. Not even close.

They could have had Brad Pitt, who was interested. He'd been a great Anakin/Vader but Lucas had to have an unknown actor.

lawrenceRaider 06-19-2022 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16339499)
I’ve gotten through episode three so far. It’s not great but I think it’s not quite as bad as I thought based on a lot of comments. Reva isn’t a great actress but it’s not that bothersome. The most annoying thing was Obi-Wan giving away who they were to the Storm Troopers. It was already a tense enough situation. No need to hit us over the head with it at the expense of him being an idiot saying her real name.

And there you have my biggest issue with the show, and why I stopped watching. I was under the impression that this would be the Obi Wan kicking ass show, and instead it is the Obi Wan ****ing up constantly show and generally being useless.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16340036)
And there you have my biggest issue with the show, and why I stopped watching. I was under the impression that this would be the Obi Wan kicking ass show, and instead it is the Obi Wan ****ing up constantly show and generally being useless.

uhhhh...you should keep watching

anyway, you have no idea about how to write an effective character, it seems - you see, they need to have a thing called an ARC

Hammock Parties 06-19-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16339996)
Come on man.... The worst casting decision by Lucas ever. Not even close.

Nope. Lots of worse decisions, like Jake Lloyd.

Hayden is a solid actor and has shown those chops in this series.

Tribal Warfare 06-19-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16339996)
Come on man.... The worst casting decision by Lucas ever. Not even close.

They could have had Brad Pitt, who was interested. He'd been a great Anakin/Vader but Lucas had to have an unknown actor.

Dane said DiCaprio was interested too

The worst decision Lucas made was making Anakin a whiney child instead of an Indiana Jones/John McClain character who suffered PTSD.

lawrenceRaider 06-19-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16340062)
uhhhh...you should keep watching

anyway, you have no idea about how to write an effective character, it seems - you see, they need to have a thing called an ARC

No thanks. Based on what I've read here, it got worse, not better.

The promise of the first episode, character arc begins, was not fulfilled.

Fanboi all you want.

Buehler445 06-19-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16340141)
No thanks. Based on what I've read here, it got worse, not better.

The promise of the first episode, character arc begins, was not fulfilled.

Fanboi all you want.

Obi-Wan is a much different character in episode 5 than 1.

Sassy Squatch 06-19-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16340036)
And there you have my biggest issue with the show, and why I stopped watching. I was under the impression that this would be the Obi Wan kicking ass show, and instead it is the Obi Wan ****ing up constantly show and generally being useless.

What gave you that impression? Honestly baffled where you could've gleaned that given the premise of the show is Obi Wan is in hiding watching out for Luke and is still broken 10 years after the fact.

Sassy Squatch 06-19-2022 12:13 PM

Also, after episode 3 which is his lowest point he's been doing nothing but kicking ass and being sass for the most part.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2022 12:14 PM

lawrence throwing a fit and passing up some of the best vader shit ever LMAO

Wallcrawler 06-20-2022 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16340205)
lawrence throwing a fit and passing up some of the best vader shit ever LMAO

Best Vader shit ever?

Obvious troll is obvious. This show is a ****ing unmitigated abomination. It should not exist. It is 1,000% garbage.

Love the 45 year old Anakin posing as a teenager for the flashback.

Vader easily rips down a dummy transport and tears it apart, but then can't be bothered to do that to the real one?

Doesn't confirm the kill on youngling Reva, only to do the exact same dumb shit again?

Claims to have known all along that Reva was a youngling...so why go along with this shit?

So she would help him find Obi Wan with a master plan that involves hiring some dumbasses to fail at kidnapping a girl she should have ZERO knowledge of, for them lose her, so she could accidentally run into her and capture her later, fail miserably at interrogating a 10 year old, but plant a tracker on her little Droid?


Who ****ing wrote this shit? It's absolute trash. It would be hilarious if it wasn't real.

Also loving the back and forth of "OH I'm disconnected from the force too long, I can barely move this little piece of shit" to " OH the glass is broken and the ocean is about to pour in, lemme just hold that off with my Jedi Master force ability, while deflecting blaster bolts"

Lmmfgdao this is a dumpster fire. Holy shit.

Sassy Squatch 06-20-2022 07:45 AM

Man, y'all need to do what I do and just look at my phone when Reva is the focal point. Bothers me much less that way.

BigRedChief 06-20-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16340138)
Dane said DiCaprio was interested too

The worst decision Lucas made was making Anakin a whiney child instead of an Indiana Jones character who suffered PTSD.

Just think of the depth of acting Pitt could have brought to the Anakin/Vader role as he grabbles with the Dark side, his feelings for his family, being tempted for that thirst for power. Finally embracing the hatred flowing towards his mentor, displacement of anger against Oni-Wan etc. Those prequel's would have been legendary.

You need a top actor to pull that off. Hayden cant even find work as an actor.

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 08:07 AM

wallcrawler throwing a fit about some of the best star wars shit we've ever seen LMAO

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 08:45 AM

hmmmm


Sassy Squatch 06-20-2022 08:51 AM

Yep. That checks out with what I've read.

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 09:01 AM

My guess is

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 10:53 AM

OK. So the image I spoiler'd is just repurposed fan art.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPL84IFX...jpg&name=large

Surprised an Indian is so bad at social media.

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Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 12:25 PM

all the other concept art was nearly bang on...so what is this?

vader's castle on mustafar?

a ship going down?

https://www.comingsoon.net/assets/up...euwuage7k3.jpg

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 02:51 PM

never seen this

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Tribal Warfare 06-20-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16341186)
all the other concept art was nearly bang on...so what is this?

vader's castle on mustafar?

a ship going down?

https://www.comingsoon.net/assets/up...euwuage7k3.jpg

A very ambiguous building structure going down in flames. It doesn't look like a volcano, unless it erupted of sorts.

Hammock Parties 06-20-2022 03:02 PM

might be badass if obi wan ****s up vader's fortress

Wallcrawler 06-21-2022 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16340840)
Wallcrawler throwing a fit about some of the most braindead star wars shit writing we've ever seen LMAO


Fixed.

This trash is rocking an amazing 62% audience score on RT on nearly 9k reviews.

Still waiting on that "rematch of the century" touted by Thunder**** Kennedy.

Surely she wasn't referring to the literal worst lightsaber fight in franchise history that took place before Vader dragged an Obi Wan that was running like a bitch through a little bit of fire?

Fanboys gonna fanboy, and some simply will refuse to acknowledge how utterly high school drama project the level of this shit really is. I've read better fan fiction.

I get it. I suffered through decades of terrible Spider Man video games and forced myself to like them because that's all there was.

Sucks that Disney simply has no ****ing clue how to capitalize on such a vast array of iconic characters across so many franchises they hold the rights to.

Wallcrawler 06-21-2022 01:28 AM

Let's recap "Greatest Vader Shit We've Seen" as claimed by resident idiot and trollololol extraordinaire Hammock Parties.

****ery example 1: Vader power walks menacingly through a settlement, viciously murdering innocent people on his way to get his hands on Kenobi.

During the conflict with Kenobi, Vader displays the ability to easily lift Kenobi, and drag him through the fire. However, one woman with a blaster and a loader Droid hold off this "Most badass Vader we've ever seen" due to him standing with his thumb up his ass behind a wall of flame. As if we are to believe that Vader, who would later rip a transport to pieces as it tried to take off, is now somehow incapable of force grasping Kenobi, bringing him back through the fire, and preventing his escape.

Why did he not simply crumple the Droid into a ball, or heave it a couple football fields away? Why would he just sit and watch them escape. He clearly wasn't ****ing around, he went on a murder spree just to get to him.

Again, a woman with a blaster and a loader Droid, held off Darth ****ing Vader. Yes.

Vader is a complete MORON in this series. He's literally the most unfathomably stupid **** in the universe.

It's like he shows off one time with the force, look what I can do, and then if ANYTHING goes wrong, he has to stand slackjawed with his thumb up his ass and watch his prey escape.

Best Vader shit we've seen?

Lmmfgdao. No.

KC_Connection 06-21-2022 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342043)
As if we are to believe that Vader, who would later rip a transport to pieces as it tried to take off, is now somehow incapable of force grasping Kenobi, bringing him back through the fire, and preventing his escape.

No, I don't think we are supposed to believe that at all. In fact, I very much think we're supposed to believe the opposite and that he let Kenobi go. It was quite obvious (at least to me). You even get a shot in that scene from Vader's perspective of the droid pulling Kenobi away and him deciding not to do anything about it.

I can only assume after reading many of the silly criticisms above that some people think Star Wars movies are some kind of flawless cinematic masterpieces. Have you seen the prequels? The sequel trilogy? Return of the Jedi? What the hell are you and the other people who apparently review bombed this show online measuring this show up against? It's a spaghetti Western set in space. It's ****ing Star Wars. A lot of it is fun to watch (including aspects of this show), but who takes this shit this seriously?

BigRichard 06-21-2022 03:46 AM

Production value and the story line have been shit. Can they not even afford good CGI in this?

I love the people saying stuff to the effect of... it is Star Wars... what do you expect?

I expect something good or something better than good... not shit.

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 08:14 AM

wallcrawler has no idea how to read a character's motivations in a scene apparently

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 08:21 AM

like, do you even know what you're watching?

the plot holes in the greatest star wars film ever, the empire strikes back, are STAGGERINGLY LARGE:

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The beginning of the movie-sending the "leader of the freedom fighters" (according to the title crawl) alongside one of his top generals for a solo sweep in a mostly uncharted ice desert? Not the best strategic choice, now is it?
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Why didn't Han pay off his debt to Jabba in between films? Just lightspeed there for a sec and rejoin the rebellion soon after, why keep delaying it after the incident with Greedo?
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AT-AT armor is too strong for blasters... until it falls? And if you need to hit an (unestablished) weak spot why not do it while the walker is very slowly, well... walking?
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AT-AT "too strong for blasters" armor not being used on death star exhaust ports and TIE-Fighters (no weight in space)
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If Vader wouldn't have uncharacteristically half-assed it by ordering Piett to ONLY turn off 1 switch when they could have done so much more-like why not cause permanent damage to it, things that make the Falcon be able to fly in the first place (like the engine) or just destroy the Falcon entirely while you're already at it? If the empire wanted to keep it, then why not order some stormtroopers/cloud city pilots to take off with it immediately? There is no reason for the empire to be content with just disabling the Falcon's hyperdrive.

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 08:25 AM

https://i.redd.it/0g6egtis6y691.png

ToxSocks 06-21-2022 09:55 AM

If i had to rank the 3 recent series i'd go:

1. Boba Fet
2. Mando
3. Obi

Graystoke 06-21-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16342285)
If i had to rank the 3 recent series i'd go:

1. Boba Fet
2. Mando
3. Obi

Granted Obi Wan isn't finished but so far this is where I am.

1) Mando
2) Boba Fett (Mando Lite)
3) Obi

Wallcrawler 06-21-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16342158)
like, do you even know what you're watching?

the plot holes in the greatest star wars film ever, the empire strikes back, are STAGGERINGLY LARGE:

Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

Gotcha.

Enjoy man. Lmmfgdao.

Sassy Squatch 06-21-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342349)
Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

Gotcha.

Enjoy man. Lmmfgdao.

Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342349)
Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

i mean, it's kinda true

you're just seeing it through a different lens now than you did when you first saw the original trilogy, which colors your perception

it's no different than the prequels

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 10:58 AM

for me

1. Mando
2A. Obi
2B. Boba

Obi gets a slight edge due to the ludicrously awesome Vader action. And they manage to avoid cringe shit like the LGBTQ+ biker gang.

KC_Connection 06-21-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342349)
Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

I'd actually love to hear the argument as to why Star Wars hasn't always been kinda dumb. Like, have you watched those movies? Most of it is fun, but also fairly ridiculous.

KC_Connection 06-21-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16342372)
Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.

I've always been ok with TFA and TLJ, but I watched ROS over the weekend and I still can't believe they greenlit that story. What they also did to the Finn character after TFA is also awful.

Sassy Squatch 06-21-2022 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16342562)
I've always been ok with TFA and TLJ, but I watched ROS over the weekend and I still can't believe they greenlit that story. What they also did to the Finn character after TFA is also awful.

I hate them all because of how they treated the original cast of characters. Granted, most of the blame goes to JJ Abrams for that one, essentially ruining Han and Leias happily ever after and leaving Rian Johnson to reverse engineer why Luke is a pussy hiding out on some planet where no one can find him.

KC_Connection 06-21-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16342572)
I hate them all because of how they treated the original cast of characters. Granted, most of the blame goes to JJ Abrams for that one, essentially ruining Han and Leias happily ever after and leaving Rian Johnson to reverse engineer why Luke is a pussy hiding out on some planet where no one can find him.

I get that. I suppose I was ok with that treatment as the movies weren't really supposed to be about Luke/Leia/Han; they were supposed to be in service of developing Rey/Kylo Ren/Finn/Poe in a new trilogy. Of course, they did a terrible job of that in retrospect and nobody really cares about those new trilogy characters at all now because of that.

One would have assumed Disney would have had some kind of coherent trilogy planned out if you're going to make those movies. Just an awful approach they took.

Wallcrawler 06-21-2022 02:01 PM

At least there is hope for season 2.

Writer of this utter tripe, Joby Harold, has been fired from this series, and will not be involved in any other Srar Wars related series moving forward.

When you admittedly use the most universally despised Star Wars Film: The Last Jedi, as a template for your series, you're going to experience the backlash that we've seen.

Specific reason Bob Chapek alluded to for firing Joby Harold, was making Reva and Leia more central to the story than Obi Wan and Darh Vader.

I mean how ****ing hard is it to focus on Obi Wan Kenobi in a show ****ing titled Obi Wan Kenobi?

The problem of course just as with Kevin Smiths fail with Masters of The Universe, is that when you make your main character on the bill of goods you sold, a secondary character in his own show, you're gonna piss people off.

You see, nobody would give 2 shits if the show were centered on Reva, and advertised as such. No, you need that huge draw character that people actually want to see, and then you try to tell your dumbass story after and if people complain, simply call them racist misogynist toxic fans.

Maybe they do better on season 2, but with their track record, I'm not holding my breath. At least the acknowledgement that fans hate the work, and the writer has been fired is a step in the right direction.

Sassy Squatch 06-21-2022 02:06 PM

Where'd you see all this at? I do remember reading they'd brought someone else in for the final episodes which does sort of explain why Reva went from an almost too competent antagonist to effectively job for both Obi Wan and Vader in episode 5.

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342754)
When you admittedly use the most universally despised Star Wars Film: The Last Jedi, as a template for your series, you're going to experience the backlash that we've seen.

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Easy 6 06-21-2022 02:16 PM

My good buddy is a YUGE nerd for all things Star Wars, every bit the equal or better of anyone in this thread... and he just shat all over this show the other day

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16342795)
My good buddy is a YUGE nerd for all things Star Wars, every bit the equal or better of anyone in this thread... and he just shat all over this show the other day

it's breaking streaming records for Disney+

Easy 6 06-21-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16342813)
it's breaking streaming records for Disney+

Thats fine, but I trust this guys judgement 100%

He particularly hated the Vader reveal... "it was like no big deal!"

I'm good with waiting for the new Mando, and going to HIS house to watch it... so I don't gotta pay for it

Hammock Parties 06-21-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16342822)
He particularly hated the Vader reveal... "it was like no big deal!"

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ToxSocks 06-21-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342754)

I mean how ****ing hard is it to focus on Obi Wan Kenobi in a show ****ing titled Obi Wan Kenobi?

Totally agree. Same thing with Boba Fet. A pair of series with their names on it in which both ended up being two of the weaker characters in their own series when they're suppose to be ass kickers.

Sassy Squatch 06-21-2022 02:38 PM

Uhh.... Wut? Obi Wan spent effectively the entirety of the next episode in a state of almost panic culminating in Obi Wan running like a little bitch when actually being confronted by Vader

BigRichard 06-21-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16342754)
At least there is hope for season 2.

Writer of this utter tripe, Joby Harold, has been fired from this series, and will not be involved in any other Srar Wars related series moving forward.

When you admittedly use the most universally despised Star Wars Film: The Last Jedi, as a template for your series, you're going to experience the backlash that we've seen.

Specific reason Bob Chapek alluded to for firing Joby Harold, was making Reva and Leia more central to the story than Obi Wan and Darh Vader.

I mean how ****ing hard is it to focus on Obi Wan Kenobi in a show ****ing titled Obi Wan Kenobi?

The problem of course just as with Kevin Smiths fail with Masters of The Universe, is that when you make your main character on the bill of goods you sold, a secondary character in his own show, you're gonna piss people off.

You see, nobody would give 2 shits if the show were centered on Reva, and advertised as such. No, you need that huge draw character that people actually want to see, and then you try to tell your dumbass story after and if people complain, simply call them racist misogynist toxic fans.

Maybe they do better on season 2, but with their track record, I'm not holding my breath. At least the acknowledgement that fans hate the work, and the writer has been fired is a step in the right direction.

Kathleen Kennedy should have been fired a long time ago if they truly wanted to admit their mistake.

DJ's left nut 06-21-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16342057)
Production value and the story line have been shit. Can they not even afford good CGI in this?

I love the people saying stuff to the effect of... it is Star Wars... what do you expect?

I expect something good or something better than good... not shit.

The Mandalorian is the bar.

This doesn't approach it. Nowhere even close. From storytelling to CGI, The Mandalorian demonstrates what CAN be done.

I don't see why any of us need to apologize for pointing out that here it most assuredly was NOT done. With easily the coolest property they have unmined and almost certainly the most talented actor they have EVER had in this entire franchise.

It's just frustrating, that's all.

DJ's left nut 06-21-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16342372)
Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.

I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
New Hope
Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
TFA
Book of Boba
Obi Wan
Revenge of the Sith
TLJ
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.


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