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pugsnotdrugs19 09-18-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17691526)
And convert short yardage in general. It’s been a problem ever since Kareem got fired in 2018 and Mahomes suffered the kneecap dislocation on a QB sneak. Sure feels like KC has the worst offense in the league for short yardage situations. Would be nice if Kareem can help this problem.

Yeah, and Steele appears to be an answer too but I do worry that they're gonna get a little redundant and predictable there and it eventually blows up in our face when that's practically the only time he is touching the field.

jjchieffan 09-18-2024 12:42 PM

Interesting. Hunt went to the practice squad and they signed Keaontay Ingram to the active roster. I didn't expect to see 2 running backs added. I'm not sure what purpose Hunt has with Ingram signed to the roster.

Red Beans 09-18-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17691539)
Interesting. Hunt went to the practice squad and they signed Keaontay Ingram to the active roster. I didn't expect to see 2 running backs added. I'm not sure what purpose Hunt has with Ingram signed to the roster.

They'll swap places once Hunt is up to speed.

kysirsoze 09-18-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17691539)
Interesting. Hunt went to the practice squad and they signed Keaontay Ingram to the active roster. I didn't expect to see 2 running backs added. I'm not sure what purpose Hunt has with Ingram signed to the roster.

Depth and competition at a huge position of need?

Mecca 09-18-2024 01:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Frazod 09-18-2024 01:48 PM

Goddamn that makes me happy.

DRM08 09-18-2024 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691625)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Current age for both Kareem & Patrick. Maybe 29 can be a lucky number for Kareem!

dirk digler 09-18-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691625)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Nagy looks happy to see him. FEED HIM

TEX 09-18-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691625)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Just imagine what's going through his mind. Dude must be totally stoked!

saphojunkie 09-18-2024 02:05 PM

dude looks like he's kept in shape

DenverChief 09-18-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691625)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Looking like he has been taking care of himself.

TEX 09-18-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17691650)
dude looks like he's kept in shape

Yep. Good to see!

Kman34 09-18-2024 02:17 PM

No OTAs and training camp… it’s going to be awhile before he’s ready to contribute much..

Mosbonian 09-18-2024 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17691639)
Current age for both Kareem & Patrick. Maybe 29 can be a lucky number for Kareem!

Maybe his first run could be for a 29 yard TD??

InvinciBill 09-18-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691625)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>: first look at RB Kareem Hunt <a href="https://t.co/V1TnBjfQBg">pic.twitter.com/V1TnBjfQBg</a></p>&mdash; McKenzie Nelson (@McKenzieMNelson) <a href="https://twitter.com/McKenzieMNelson/status/1836483354838860115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like it'll be 29

Switching from 27 to 29 ... the reverse Greg Hill! Strong move.

Ghost of Maslowski 09-18-2024 02:28 PM

probably gonna be more like 2.9 yards a carry, but if it's on 3rd or 4th and 1 then i'm cool with it

New World Order 09-18-2024 02:30 PM

Send in the Kareem

DenverChief 09-18-2024 02:35 PM

Moar

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sorry didn't realize it was almost 2 mins of standing around LMAO

BleedingRed 09-18-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17691668)
No OTAs and training camp… it’s going to be awhile before he’s ready to contribute much..

not how Running Backs work XD

New World Order 09-18-2024 02:41 PM

Kareem didn’t have tremendous speed or elusiveness but he’s always had elite vision. If there’s a hole he’ll find it

Kman34 09-18-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17691699)
not how Running Backs work XD

He’s not in football shape right now..

DenverChief 09-18-2024 02:47 PM

also listening to Andy's interview today - Kareem had a sports hernia last year and that may have effected his performance as well.

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Mosbonian 09-18-2024 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17691711)
He’s not in football shape right now..

Sounds like you really didn't like the signing to begin with.

BWillie 09-18-2024 02:57 PM

If his hernia issue was really the reason for the lack of production last year and hes 100% this year.....that would be a great situation

BWillie 09-18-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17691658)
Looking like he has been taking care of himself.

He's been punting bitches in his spare time. Look at those legs. Thats like a 100 bitches a day

Kman34 09-18-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17691715)
Sounds like you really didn't like the signing to begin with.

No I like it but don’t be surprised when he’s not active for awhile till his fitness is where it needs to be…

BWillie 09-18-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17691668)
No OTAs and training camp… it’s going to be awhile before he’s ready to contribute much..

Wouldn't surprise me if he plays this week

BleedingRed 09-18-2024 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17691737)
Wouldn't surprise me if he plays this week

He will be promoted by friday to active, just for depth reason alone

ARROW2 09-18-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17691743)
He will be promoted by friday to active, just for depth reason alone

Yeah right....wink wink...he is automatically our best RB Minus pacheco

BossChief 09-18-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17691386)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There’s a chance Kareem Hunt could play against Atlanta, per Coach Reid. The plan is to bring him up to speed and see where he is as the week progresses.</p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1836447960315437508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is exciting to hear.

Despite his YPC, his advanced metrics all looked pretty good last year. If a sports hernia held him back and he’s now healthy, we may be in for a fun little ride here.

neech 09-18-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17691711)
He’s not in football shape right now..

How do you know that information?

notorious 09-18-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17692086)
This is exciting to hear.

Despite his YPC, his advanced metrics all looked pretty good last year. If a sports hernia held him back and he’s now healthy, we may be in for a fun little ride here.

I for one was not keen on Hunt being back before. Now that he is on board I would be shocked if he doesn't make the HOF.

BossChief 09-18-2024 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17691733)
No I like it but don’t be surprised when he’s not active for awhile till his fitness is where it needs to be…

From what we saw from his first day at practice, he looks to be in really good shape. No gut.

T-post Tom 09-18-2024 09:12 PM

The turgidity in my nether regions is magnificent!

BigRedChief 09-18-2024 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17691418)
Don't quote me on this but generally if you have surgery for that it's because the break is bad enough it needs plates and screws or the ankle is unstable which would be a ligament injury as well...that's uh not good.

If that surgery did happen, he's done for the year, right?

kozzman555 09-18-2024 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17692123)
If that surgery did happen, he's done for the year, right?

Possibly. Maybe back for late in the playoffs.

BigRedChief 09-18-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17692096)
I for one was not keen on Hunt being back before. Now that he is on board I would be shocked if he doesn't make the HOF.

Come on man, the Kareem redemption story would be a welcome part of a 3Peat season.

Fishels 09-18-2024 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17691485)
Exactly. Dude scores TD's.

He’s a badass. We need him for Threepeat. Hope he’s back by then

UChieffyBugger 09-18-2024 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17691727)
If his hernia issue was really the reason for the lack of production last year and hes 100% this year.....that would be a great situation

Lack of production? 11 total TD's is a lack of production? :evil:

royr17 09-19-2024 12:02 AM

He had sports hernia with ruptured adductor.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-19-2024 01:43 AM

Kareem is starting Sunday night. Book it.

Rainbarrel 09-19-2024 03:03 AM

Kareem Hunt is why Bigfoot & Nessie hide under their beds at night

Monticore 09-19-2024 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17692123)
If that surgery did happen, he's done for the year, right?

Depends if it’s a higher fracture that need led plate and screws to keep things aligned your looking at the 4-6 most likely but if it’s one that was lower involving ligaments it could be longer , the higher the break the better when it comes to the fibula in general, it’s not a weight bearing bone but mid shaft breaks might need internal fixations , avulsion fracture normally don’t but elite athletes are different but those and malleolus fractures involve ligaments to some extent.

Broken ankle have a shit ton of possibilities the fact it just looks like a fibula is better but again the difference between distal/mid/proximal/avulsion can be pretty big when it comes to treatment/prognosis etc..and surgery on pro athletes doesn’t mean it’s always more severe sometimes they get surgery the average guys wouldn’t. How many times do you hear pros getting surgery for a broken finger .

carcosa 09-19-2024 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17690550)
Only if this thread reaches 1000 posts, LFG!

We're more than halfway there! Let's goo!!!

TEX 09-19-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17692129)
Come on man, the Kareem redemption story would be a welcome part of a 3Peat season.

And WHAT a story it would be!

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 10:47 AM

Gents, I'll be honest, I think Kareem is gonna make it hard for Pacheco to take back his prior work load when he returns -- injury not withstanding.

I may end up with egg on my face, but I think he's going to exceed everyone's expectations. Some by a whole lot. And probably be back next year as a result.

wazu 09-19-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692594)
Gents, I'll be honest, I think Kareem is gonna make it hard for Pacheco to take back his prior work load when he returns -- injury not withstanding.

I may end up with egg on my face, but I think he's going to exceed everyone's expectations. Some by a whole lot. And probably be back next year as a result.

I'm gonna need you to settle down.

Mecca 09-19-2024 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17692123)
If that surgery did happen, he's done for the year, right?

Well they said no ligament damage so that's good.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17692599)
I'm gonna need you to settle down.

at least eat my ass if you're gonna ride it...

O.city 09-19-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692594)
Gents, I'll be honest, I think Kareem is gonna make it hard for Pacheco to take back his prior work load when he returns -- injury not withstanding.

I may end up with egg on my face, but I think he's going to exceed everyone's expectations. Some by a whole lot. And probably be back next year as a result.

Based on....what exactly?

He's 29 coming off a core injury. I'd be more shocked if he is successful than if he does nothing.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692609)
Based on....what exactly?

He's 29 coming off a core injury. I'd be more shocked if he is successful than if he does nothing.

Cause when I watch his work from last year, I don't see a massive difference in the speed or explosion. Not anything like was the case with McKinnon. I do see him playing in an offense where defenses crowded the box and triggered downhill quickly.

And he was hurt, to your point.

His production didn't just dip last year. He never produced in CLE like he did here. I think there's some context to that - More than just Nick Chubb - which offers hope for what he can do back in this system.

Dark Horse 09-19-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692609)
Based on....what exactly?

He's 29 coming off a core injury. I'd be more shocked if he is successful than if he does nothing.

Hey, You, get off of his cloud.

O.city 09-19-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692613)
Cause when I watch his work from last year, I don't see a massive difference in the speed or explosion. Not anything like was the case with McKinnon. I do see him playing in an offense where defenses crowded the box and triggered downhill quickly.

And he was hurt, to your point.

Again, fine and good. But like discussing here lately, a half step slower and he may not even be able to play anymore.

O.city 09-19-2024 10:57 AM

He was behind Chubb most of the time in Cleveland.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692623)
He was behind Chubb most of the time in Cleveland.

Talking from a per snap basis.

Bowser 09-19-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692609)
Based on....what exactly?

He's 29 coming off a core injury. I'd be more shocked if he is successful than if he does nothing.

But if he's fully healed coming off of a reduced workload the past couple of seasons??

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 10:59 AM

Jerick McKinnon was left for dead before Kansas City too.

Systems and durability are everything for that position.

TEX 09-19-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692594)
Gents, I'll be honest, I think Kareem is gonna make it hard for Pacheco to take back his prior work load when he returns -- injury not withstanding.

I may end up with egg on my face, but I think he's going to exceed everyone's expectations. Some by a whole lot. And probably be back next year as a result.

Define the timeline here. Age is on Pop's side. If Kareem works out, it would be outstanding to have BOTH!

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:00 AM

McKinnon could never stay healthy he has an insanely lengthy injury history,he missed basically 2 years with a knee injury.

O.city 09-19-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17692627)
But if he's fully healed coming off of a reduced workload the past couple of seasons??

He's also almost 30.

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692632)
He's also almost 30.

Luckily he doesn't have a typical 30 year old work load. He doesn't still have the juice he once did but I don't think he's washed either.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2024 11:03 AM

Yeah, there's probably a reason he wasn't even on a PS in mid September

O.city 09-19-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17692643)
Yeah, there's probably a reason he wasn't even on a PS in mid September

Damn it I was saving this response.

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17692643)
Yeah, there's probably a reason he wasn't even on a PS in mid September

He wasn't last year either, I think that may be more him looking to pick and choose than wanting to go compete in camp for a backup spot.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 11:06 AM

LMAO

Some people say that about players every year and then Mike Pennel helps us win two Super Bowls as a guy who was on his couch in September. I promise that’s not always a death sentence for a veteran player.

Teams don’t want those guys early either because their money becomes guaranteed.

O.city 09-19-2024 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692655)
LMAO

Some people say that about players every year and then Mike Pennel helps us win two Super Bowls as a guy who was on his couch in September. I promise that’s not always a death sentence for a veteran player.

Teams don’t want those guys early either because their money becomes guaranteed.

Would you say that's common or the exception to the rule?

dirk digler 09-19-2024 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17692650)
He wasn't last year either, I think that may be more him looking to pick and choose than wanting to go compete in camp for a backup spot.

good catch. Yeah he didn't resign with the Browns until after Chubb got hurt in Week 1. Same deal here.

Quote:

Hunt spent the entire 2023 offseason waiting out the market for an opportunity to play a significant role somewhere in the NFL. Though he made multiple visits to interested teams during training camp, such a role never materialized -- until Monday night.

O.city 09-19-2024 11:10 AM

So he waited for a spot all year, didn't get one, Chubb gets hurt, goes back and has a meh year.

And we expect that to not happen here now.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-19-2024 11:11 AM

Keontay Ingram has been on the Chiefs roster since the winter

You know who is getting cut and sent back to PS as soon as Kareem Hunt is ready?

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692661)
So he waited for a spot all year, didn't get one, Chubb gets hurt, goes back and has a meh year.

And we expect that to not happen here now.

All year? He signed in week 2

If dude has a lot of the money he made he has zero reason to not do anything he doesn't want to.

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17692662)
Keontay Ingram has been on the Chiefs roster since the winter

You know who is getting cut and sent back to PS as soon as Kareem Hunt is ready?

Yes because Keontay Ingram has made 5 dollars in his NFL career, Kareem Hunt got a solid second contract from Cleveland, Hunt unless he literally is broke has no reason to go through that grind.

dirk digler 09-19-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692661)
So he waited for a spot all year, didn't get one, Chubb gets hurt, goes back and has a meh year.

And we expect that to not happen here now.

He was Top 10 RB in rushing TD's. More than Pop.

O.city 09-19-2024 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17692664)
All year? He signed in week 2

If dude has a lot of the money he made he has zero reason to not do anything he doesn't want to.

All offseason looking for a contract....

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17692666)
He was Top 10 RB in rushing TD's. More than Pop.

At the very least he seems like a better goal line back than anything we have.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2024 11:14 AM

You're the one that more or less said you thought Hunt would take Pachecos workload even when he was back and healthy. There's a pretty huge difference between being a complimentary veteran like Pennel was and Hunt probably will be and taking a talented starters job.

Sassy Squatch 09-19-2024 11:16 AM

If Hunt is going to take anyone's job, it's probably Perine. Pretty damn similar roles here.

Mecca 09-19-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17692672)
You're the one that more or less said you thought Hunt would take Pachecos workload even when he was back and healthy. There's a pretty huge difference between being a complimentary veteran like Pennel was and Hunt probably will be and taking a talented starters job.

I don't expect Pacheco to see anything resembling a full load till the playoffs.

Spott 09-19-2024 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692661)
So he waited for a spot all year, didn't get one, Chubb gets hurt, goes back and has a meh year.

And we expect that to not happen here now.

It’s possible, but he was also playing through a sports hernia last season before having the surgery in January. Cleveland never really used him to his potential while he was there, so it’s definitely possible he could contribute here. I’m likely being optimistic about what we can get from him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out better than expected either.

O.city 09-19-2024 11:18 AM

I hope he comes out and kicks ass.....but we've been down this road many times. I know how it usually ends.

TEX 09-19-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17692667)
All offseason looking for a contract....

Maybe he was looking for better situations? Maybe they couldn't agree on the money? Years? Maybe there were health concerns? Maybe teams were shy because of his past? I don't know, there could be many reasons. :shrug:


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