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Bugeater 05-30-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
My brother told me the same thing. He also suggested throwing some mudinto the primer, throwing it on with a shaggy roller, and letting that cover the imperfections. One problem was that the stupid studs weren't on 16" layout, so I had to do a ton of cutting on the drywall. In addition, stuff just wasn't square, so the drywall really wasn't put up correctly. Next time, I'll know that it pays to put the drywall up nicely, even if you have to nail in some extra bracing and such to make it happen. Actually, I don't have to know that, because next time I won't be doing it. All I could think the entire time I was messing with the drywall was that I could drive down to Lowe's and pick up a truck full of migrants, and give them $100 bucks; they'd to the job better and quicker than I ever could.

Ugh, why weren't the studs on a 16" layout? Does your house date back to the days of plaster & lathe walls?

NewChief 05-30-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Carlson the Bugeater
Ugh, why weren't the studs on a 16" layout? Does your house date back to the days of plaster & lathe walls?

Nah, it's a 50s ranch. I'm not sure what's up with that studs. They appeared almost random in their layout, heh. I think one problem might have been that it's a pretty small space (8'x5') that's also pretty cut up. There was a window, recessed shower, two doors, sink, toilet, gas heater, and medicine cabinet within all of that. So with all the headers and extra box framing for the heater, medicine cabinet, and sinks, there wasn't really room to get a good 16" layout going. Everytime they'd try to span 16", there'd be a header or a framing for a medicine cabinet or shower to deal with.

Bugeater 05-30-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
Nah, it's a 50s ranch. I'm not sure what's up with that studs. They appeared almost random in their layout, heh. I think one problem might have been that it's a pretty small space (8'x5') that's also pretty cut up. There was a window, recessed shower, two doors, sink, toilet, gas heater, and medicine cabinet within all of that. So with all the headers and extra box framing for the heater, medicine cabinet, and sinks, there wasn't really room to get a good 16" layout going. Everytime they'd try to span 16", there'd be a header or a framing for a medicine cabinet or shower to deal with.

Drywall was still in its infancy in the '50s, so they probably didn't have much experience with it yet. Having it all cut up sure doesn't help either, I don't blame you for hating it after that.

RJ 05-30-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
All I could think the entire time I was messing with the drywall was that I could drive down to Lowe's and pick up a truck full of migrants, and give them $100 bucks; they'd to the job better and quicker than I ever could.



Buy American!
:)

Phobia 05-30-2007 09:23 PM

Nice job, dude. I hope you put a Champion toilet in there.

KcMizzou 05-30-2007 09:26 PM

I'm not much of a handyman at all. (Hence my asking for advice)

I could use a good weed killer. I live in a townhouse that has a small patio. It's surrounded by a privacy fence.

I'd like to buy something that will kill the vegetation for good in a 3' X 6' area.

I plan on throwing down some cedar chips or something afterwards.

I suppose I could just pick something, but I thought I'd ask.

Phobia 05-30-2007 09:28 PM

I presume you want to kill everything.

Roundup is your product.

KcMizzou 05-30-2007 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I presume you want to kill everything.

Roundup is your product.

Ty, sir.

Iowanian 05-30-2007 09:33 PM

nice work NewC..dolph

Depending on how things shake out....I may have a huge project to show in transition.

kcm....there are generic "roundup" weed killers that will kill everything...pick it up at walmart or a true value type store. Put down a couple of layers of newspaper, if not plastic under your cedar mulch. It'll help keep stuff from growing up through.

Phobia 05-30-2007 09:34 PM

I'm sure there's cheaper, off-brand versions of Roundup but Roundup is the best known brand for a reason. It will work.

A good home remedy is sugar. Lay down a bag of sugar in that area and it will kill any vegetation.

I've also heard 1 part vinegar, 1 part citrus oil, and 8 parts water will do it.

I dunno. I've never used the home remedies myself.

Bugeater 05-30-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
I'm not much of a handyman at all. (Hence my asking for advice)

I could use a good weed killer. I live in a townhouse that has a small patio. It's surrounded by a privacy fence.

I'd like to buy something that will kill the vegetation for good in a 3' X 6' area.

I plan on throwing down some cedar chips or something afterwards.

I suppose I could just pick something, but I thought I'd ask.

The only thing that will kill it for good is pavement. Roundup will kill anything except heavy brush, and is good for about six weeks or so. Putting weedblocking fabric down under the wood chips will help slow things a bit too.

Iowanian 05-30-2007 09:39 PM

Boiling water will do it....just be careful.

KcMizzou 05-30-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
A good home remedy is sugar. Lay down a bag of sugar in that area and it will kill any vegetation.

Really... that's interesting. I'm curious as to how it works.

Anyway, I'll probably go with the Roundup, and put down some plastic (like Iowanian mentioned).. I can get that at work.

Phobia 05-30-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Really... that's interesting. I'm curious as to how it works.

Anyway, I'll probably go with the Roundup, and put down some plastic (like Iowanian mentioned).. I can get that at work.

Well, a little sugar is actually good for plants. It's that sugar overload that will kill them.

Sugars get microbes into high gear. The sugar actually improves the health of your soil long term, but will cause so much microbe action that the plant/root will overload and die.

Bugeater 05-30-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Really... that's interesting. I'm curious as to how it works.

Anyway, I'll probably go with the Roundup, and put down some plastic (like Iowanian mentioned).. I can get that at work.

While plastic is highly effective, it will trap moisture underneath it and can become a haven for mold. The guy who owned my home before me used it, and I've pulled some of it back up and it was really nasty underneath. The weed blocking fabrics are breathable, but consequently, they aren't as effective.

PastorMikH 05-30-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
I'm not much of a handyman at all. (Hence my asking for advice)

I could use a good weed killer. I live in a townhouse that has a small patio. It's surrounded by a privacy fence.

I'd like to buy something that will kill the vegetation for good in a 3' X 6' area.

I plan on throwing down some cedar chips or something afterwards.

I suppose I could just pick something, but I thought I'd ask.



Anti-freeze or Diesel fuel work pretty good, if you are covering it, some used motor oil can kill the spot for good - but don't let the EPA catch you doing it.

;)


You can also go down to the local co-op and ask them for something that will sterilize the soil. Farmer I worked for got something that would kill everything and nothing would grow back for at least a year. Don't know what it was called though.

I bought some stuff at the hardware store this year that, like Roundup killed everything off, but was supposed to sterilize the soil for the rest of the season. I used it on the church parking lot but we've had so much rain and water runs well enough around there that it has already lost it's effectiveness.

bronco610 05-31-2007 01:07 AM

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Here's a gadget I made!

bronco610 05-31-2007 01:15 AM

The child has cerebal palsey and alot of people chipped in. Not looking for pat on the back but even some Chief fans helped so I just wanted to say thanks for those of you who did !!!

Phobia 05-31-2007 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco610
The child has cerebal palsey and alot of people chipped in. Not looking for pat on the back but even some Chief fans helped so I just wanted to say thanks for those of you who did !!!

People are just people, dude. It doesn't matter what team you root for.

Nice bike. Hopefully it will bring many hours of enjoyment for you and your kid.

bronco610 05-31-2007 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
People are just people, dude. It doesn't matter what team you root for.

Nice bike. Hopefully it will bring many hours of enjoyment for you and your kid.

Not my kid, just the builder. Never met the guy, but I also have a son with cerebal palsey. Like I said just wanted to say thanks to the fans who contributed.

bringbackmarty 05-31-2007 01:50 AM

You have some skills and you kick ass. god bless.

Iowanian 05-31-2007 07:51 AM

I had followed the project that lead to that bike. Its a nice gesture on your part and a fine project....other than the color blind person who must have picked those clashing, nasty color scheme.

nice work.

Iowanian 07-20-2007 02:25 PM

Stucko House repair.

I've got a problem on a project I'm working on.

Long story short, a grandparent thought "vines" were Pretty and allowed them to grow all over a stucko house. We killed them and are pulling them down, however, some are grown into the stucko and will need some fixin.

the next problem is the "feet" that the vines cleated themselves to the wall/ceilings....they pull off, leaving black spots that won't power wash off.

Does anyone have an idea or trick to get that shit off?

Stewie 07-20-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian
Stucko House repair.

I've got a problem on a project I'm working on.

Long story short, a grandparent thought "vines" were Pretty and allowed them to grow all over a stucko house. We killed them and are pulling them down, however, some are grown into the stucko and will need some fixin.

the next problem is the "feet" that the vines cleated themselves to the wall/ceilings....they pull off, leaving black spots that won't power wash off.

Does anyone have an idea or trick to get that shit off?

Trisodium Phosphate? That's all I got. Not sure if it will hurt the stucko.

Iowanian 10-18-2007 06:07 PM

Handy-men Listen up.

Water lines. Recently, mostly last weekend My dad and I ran all new waterlines from the meter throughout my project house/home. We had previously run new water and sewer upstairs during another surprise(holes in cast plumbing you could hide a beercan that soaked a wall-ceiling) when I had everything torn out to repair that.....

Anyway.....If you ever find yourself in this predicament, and do not use "PEX"....you're a fool.

Its so much faster.

http://www.bobvila.com/TV_Showrooms/...es/aquapex.jpg


I'll never install a copper line again.
http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/pocketcrimper.html

JimNasium 08-17-2008 06:16 PM

I'm pulling paneling out of a room this week and replacing it with sheetrock. Is there a secret to matching up the walls with the textured ceiling without making it totally obvious?

Bugeater 08-17-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 4922788)
I'm pulling paneling out of a room this week and replacing it with sheetrock. Is there a secret to matching up the walls with the textured ceiling without making it totally obvious?

I usually use rip bead along the top edge and just caulk whatever gap remains. Covering up the unfinished corner with crown molding works too.

JimNasium 08-17-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBo (Post 4922848)
I usually use rip bead along the top edge and just caulk whatever gap remains. Covering up the unfinished corner with crown molding works too.

Rip bead?

Bugeater 08-17-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 4922852)
Rip bead?

I added a link in my last post.

JimNasium 08-17-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBo (Post 4922857)
I added a link in my last post.

Very cool. Thanks.

DaFace 08-17-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4304799)
Handy-men Listen up.

Water lines. Recently, mostly last weekend My dad and I ran all new waterlines from the meter throughout my project house/home. We had previously run new water and sewer upstairs during another surprise(holes in cast plumbing you could hide a beercan that soaked a wall-ceiling) when I had everything torn out to repair that.....

Anyway.....If you ever find yourself in this predicament, and do not use "PEX"....you're a fool.

Its so much faster.

http://www.bobvila.com/TV_Showrooms/...es/aquapex.jpg


I'll never install a copper line again.
http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/pocketcrimper.html

Not that this is probably top of mind when installing that kind of thing, but another issue with copper these days is its resale value. My in-laws old place was empty while they were trying to sell it, and someone broke into the crawl space and cut out all the copper piping. They had to re-plumb the entire place. :shake:

Iowanian 08-17-2008 09:49 PM

That is happening all over the place, with the value of scrap copper. They're stealing AC units outside of homes too.

I should throw up a list of my latest projects someday.

The more projects I tackle, the less of a real "handy man" i feel like.

Decided to pimp out the windows and siding project....2 weeks I think.

Baby Lee 08-18-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4304799)
Handy-men Listen up.

Water lines. Recently, mostly last weekend My dad and I ran all new waterlines from the meter throughout my project house/home. We had previously run new water and sewer upstairs during another surprise(holes in cast plumbing you could hide a beercan that soaked a wall-ceiling) when I had everything torn out to repair that.....

Anyway.....If you ever find yourself in this predicament, and do not use "PEX"....you're a fool.

Its so much faster.

http://www.bobvila.com/TV_Showrooms/...es/aquapex.jpg


I'll never install a copper line again.
http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/pocketcrimper.html

Rich Trethewy approves. :thumb:

Skip Towne 08-18-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 4924919)
Rich Trethewy approves. :thumb:

Very good info.

Phobia 08-18-2008 09:20 PM

I agree regarding pex. I probably have a couple hundy wrapped up into stocked fittings, copper tube, flux, & solder but I'm content to let that stuff rot if I can do pex in less than half the labor and 0% of the problems. I spent 6 hours on a solder job in phisherman's house last summer that would have taken me 10 minutes with pex today. It also looks like a blind geriatric rigged it but at least it's watertight. Never again.

el borracho 08-18-2008 10:13 PM

following along those lines you should try the push fit fittings (I think they are called "Gator Bite" or something like that) with the pex line. They install in literally one second and you can actually remove and re-use them using only a cheap plastic tool. The fittings are a bit pricey but they are much easier and quicker than the crimp fittings.

Phobia 08-18-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4926057)
following along those lines you should try the push fit fittings (I think they are called "Gator Bite" or something like that) with the pex line. They install in literally one second and you can actually remove and re-use them using only a cheap plastic tool. The fittings are a bit pricey but they are much easier and quicker than the crimp fittings.

Yeah, that's what I thought and then I had one fail. Never again.

Rooster 08-19-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4926057)
following along those lines you should try the push fit fittings (I think they are called "Gator Bite" or something like that) with the pex line. They install in literally one second and you can actually remove and re-use them using only a cheap plastic tool. The fittings are a bit pricey but they are much easier and quicker than the crimp fittings.

I wouldn't use those press fit fittings for anything. They are bad news and have absolutely not data or long term testing with the use of PEX. I would never put them in my house. :shake:

tooge 08-19-2008 02:11 PM

Ummm, lets see. Dont jerk off with shampoo!

RibKing67 08-19-2008 02:18 PM

I use the shark bite fittings all the time in commercial applications and they are the best thing since sliced bread. I can join copper to pex or copper to copper.... you get the point. I have not had one fail in the 2 yrs I have been using them. I also have a co-worker that has a house in Raymore that is done all in pex. He loves it.

Phobia 08-19-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 4927435)
I wouldn't use those press fit fittings for anything. They are bad news and have absolutely not data or long term testing with the use of PEX. I would never put them in my house. :shake:

I was lucky. The first one I ever tried failed. I'm not a slow learner. Fortunately it was on a job helping out a cousin for free and most the water went into his crawlspace. So I wasn't on the hook for the cleanup.

NewChief 08-19-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4925924)
I agree regarding pex. I probably have a couple hundy wrapped up into stocked fittings, copper tube, flux, & solder but I'm content to let that stuff rot if I can do pex in less than half the labor and 0% of the problems. I spent 6 hours on a solder job in phisherman's house last summer that would have taken me 10 minutes with pex today. It also looks like a blind geriatric rigged it but at least it's watertight. Never again.

This is good to know. Plumbing always gives me fits.

el borracho 08-20-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4927811)
I was lucky. The first one I ever tried failed. I'm not a slow learner. Fortunately it was on a job helping out a cousin for free and most the water went into his crawlspace. So I wasn't on the hook for the cleanup.

As I'm sure you know, one is not a very large sample of data to form an informed opinion. I can not speak to the long-term durability of them but, to this date and as far as I know, all that I have installed are functioning perfectly.

Out of curiosity, how long was it working before it failed? More like an hour or more like a year?

Phobia 08-20-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 4929476)
As I'm sure you know, one is not a very large sample of data to form an informed opinion. I can not speak to the long-term durability of them but, to this date and as far as I know, all that I have installed are functioning perfectly.

Out of curiosity, how long was it working before it failed? More like an hour or more like a year?

Of course it isn't a large sample but when it's your first one? I base a lot of my decisions on personal experience and the rest I'll leave up to consumer reports and the wisdom of those in my circle. When the first of anything I buy fails I'll probably find alternatives in the future - such as my Gateway laptop and these sharkbite fittings. Besides, the crimp fittings work just fine for me now that I've invested in a crimper and they're less than half the cost.

Oh - and the fitting performed fine for about 10 days.

plbrdude 08-20-2008 11:39 AM

i've yet to have a sharkbite fitting fail either. handy when you've got to transition from pex to copper. sometimes on cpvc that that little plastic stiffener needs to come out to let the cpvc go all the way in. the only time i've ever seen one leak was on cpvc and the pipe didn't fully insert.

Rooster 08-20-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by plbrdude (Post 4929626)
i've yet to have a sharkbite fitting fail either. handy when you've got to transition from pex to copper. sometimes on cpvc that that little plastic stiffener needs to come out to let the cpvc go all the way in. the only time i've ever seen one leak was on cpvc and the pipe didn't fully insert.

Honestly, you are flirting with disaster using that coupler. I sincerely hope you are not using these fittings behind walls.

Iowanian 08-20-2008 03:00 PM

I'm getting ready to run the last plumbing in my house, probably this fall, to the downstairs bath/laundry room.

I'm going to run pex most of the way, but copper already is run t hrough a wall to a shower, so I'll go pex to copper.

In the basement, not inside a wall, the sharkbite seems to be a reasonable choice. My basement isn't finished and won't be, so its not the end of the world.

I'd be fibbing if I didn't wonder how well the pex and fittings are holding up inside the wall. I've found 1 leaking in the basement.

Phobia 08-20-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4930174)
I'd be fibbing if I didn't wonder how well the pex and fittings are holding up inside the wall. I've found 1 leaking in the basement.

I'm sure that was operator error. If it were problematic Pex would have never become an acceptable plumbing practice in national codes. I've had a couple leaking pex connections but it was because we didn't get the tube fully seated and crimped correctly. After you turn the water on and everything is sealed the rate of failure is miniscule.

plbrdude 08-20-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 4929920)
Honestly, you are flirting with disaster using that coupler. I sincerely hope you are not using these fittings behind walls.

so far only in exposed areas. though sharkbites are approved to be buried. when it comes to that a.y. mcdonald pac joint fittings are the only way to go.

Iowanian 08-20-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4930297)
I'm sure that was operator error. If it were problematic Pex would have never become an acceptable plumbing practice in national codes. I've had a couple leaking pex connections but it was because we didn't get the tube fully seated and crimped correctly. After you turn the water on and everything is sealed the rate of failure is miniscule.

I'm sure it was operator error.


Removed the rest...not necessary for this thread or posterity.

Phobia 08-20-2008 07:21 PM

People are stupid dude. You know that. If he's moving hang him. If you're stuck with him take some time to smooth it over. There's nothing better than good neighbors to watch out for one another.

Iowanian 08-20-2008 07:46 PM

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Buzz 09-04-2008 10:55 AM

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For all you do it your self types that enjoy a good garage / mancave here's mine.

CoMoChief 09-04-2008 10:57 AM

Note to self,

Never buy any furniture from Walmart

DAMN HOLES AND SCREWS NEVER LINE UP!!!!!!!!!

Buzz 09-04-2008 11:15 AM

Oh, and I'm sure Donger would love me cause I hang out in my garage LMAO

Phobia 09-04-2008 11:52 AM

Heh. I'd be ashamed to post pictures of my shop, Howie. I know where every single item is (mostly) but a picture of organization it is not.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 11:53 AM

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Here is part of my latest project. Since I have built a closet in the bathroom I redid, and have 16 new windows and 30 squares of siding in the garage(hiring that out, don't have time).

Groves 09-04-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Howie Feltersnatch (Post 4978298)
Oh, and I'm sure Donger would love me cause I hang out in my garage LMAO

In a pool?

Iowanian 09-04-2008 11:57 AM

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Here is a snapshot of the bathroom remodel. I'll try to dig up a "before" and post it here later. I know I'm not a pro, no laughing.

Buzz 09-04-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4978506)
Here is a snapshot of the bathroom remodel. I'll try to dig up a "before" and post it here later. I know I'm not a pro, no laughing.

Looks Good and that little girl should have a lot of fun with that play set...

Heres a motorcycle I redid last year and got my license on.

Boise_Chief 09-04-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 4927529)
Ummm, lets see. Dont jerk off with shampoo!

Use Johnson and Johnsons....

No tears.:D

aturnis 09-04-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 1961893)
I keep some of the plastic Laundry soap jugs, cut the tops out of them and use them to store nails, screws, electric stuff and other "garage items".

The plastic Folgers cans with the built in handle work great! You get a large container with a handle and a lid.

http://www.paintballguns.net/images/can.jpg

Coach 09-04-2008 06:49 PM

When painting concrete blocks, don't use a small to average sized paint brush to paint in between the gaps of the concrete blocks. Get a big fugger and dunk a whole shit load of paint on it, and slap it on the gaps and run across as much as you can.

When it comes to rolling paint on the concrete block, you usually get better results by rolling the roller at a 45 degree angle, especially covering the little holes.

NewChief 09-04-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4978485)
Here is part of my latest project. Since I have built a closet in the bathroom I redid, and have 16 new windows and 30 squares of siding in the garage(hiring that out, don't have time).

I've got to post up shots of mine that I put together (no, I didn't build it) this summer. It's a fuggin monstrosity about on the same scale as yours.

Phobia 09-04-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4978506)
Here is a snapshot of the bathroom remodel. I'll try to dig up a "before" and post it here later. I know I'm not a pro, no laughing.

That bathroom looks pretty good except for it seems to be missing a Champion series toilet.

For future reference; with ceramic tile you should size your grout lines the same thickness as the tile, especially when you're using a contrasting grout color but it looks like everything is lined up and flush so I'll give an "A-". It's a whole lot better than most the DIY tile jobs I've seen. In fact, I don't recommend tiling to the average DIYer. They usually screw it up.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 09:55 PM

To put in the playground....what a deal that turned out to be.

I bought it off of craigslist. It was a playstar series that looked to be worth around 2200 and was built 2yrs ago. I bought it for a few hundred, had to drive to the DM area to take it down and haul it home, which took 2 trips.

I had to tear out about 30' of vintage 1930s brick and cement wall, tore out a row of hedge and 2 cedar trees. I leveled off the spot, dug a 45' trench by hand to bury a tile and hauled in the pea gravel....scooping 6 ton by hand.

The kids love it, so it was worth it in the end.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 10:00 PM

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Alright Phildo...

Here is the real test. This was my most difficult attempt at tile yet...and my first attempt to do anything "fancy". Let me have it.

Still have to do the quarter round....and I'm waiting until everying is done, including the dining room floor and the last bathroom and do it at the same time.

Phobia 09-04-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4980863)
To put in the playground....what a deal that turned out to be.

I bought it off of craigslist. It was a playstar series that looked to be worth around 2200 and was built 2yrs ago. I bought it for a few hundred, had to drive to the DM area to take it down and haul it home, which took 2 trips.

I had to tear out about 30' of vintage 1930s brick and cement wall, tore out a row of hedge and 2 cedar trees. I leveled off the spot, dug a 45' trench by hand to bury a tile and hauled in the pea gravel....scooping 6 ton by hand.

The kids love it, so it was worth it in the end.

You're not telling me anything. I built my daughter's playset from reclaimed timbers. Never, ever again. I'll drop the hundreds on a kit next time. Fortunately there won't be a next time.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 10:04 PM

I agree. Never, ever again.

Given the loot I'm shelling out on this house, saving that thousand dollars was worth it for now.

Phobia 09-04-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4980886)
Alright Phildo...

Here is the real test. This was my most difficult attempt at tile yet...and my first attempt to do anything "fancy". Let me have it.

Still have to do the quarter round....and I'm waiting until everying is done, including the dining room floor and the last bathroom and do it at the same time.

It looks good. That's the Rialto line from Lowes. Good, strong tile. It's thicker than most other synthetic tiles.

Only change I'd have made would be undercutting your door jams and sliding the tile underneath but that's pretty tricky.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 10:11 PM

On the spacing, I used store bought spacers. What should I have done different?


I did the one on the left and into the closet. The right side was a basement door with a kicker board I just didn't know how to work around/over/through.

It better be good tile...it sure as hell wasn't cheap.

I'm happy enough with it, and the wife likes it, so I guess its good.

I lost my HD so I have to dig up my "before" photos....I'll eventually do a spread on what I started with, and what I'm creating. It'll probably not be too impressive for those guys living in castles, but its definitely a "flip this house-money pit".

Phobia 09-04-2008 10:17 PM

Use smaller spacers. I generally use 1/4 or 3/8 max on 12" tile. Natural stone can go wider sometimes.

It looks great, dude. You have every reason to be proud. You did a good job with it. I love the woodwork. Too many times in those old houses the beauty of the wood has been covered with paint.

Iowanian 09-04-2008 10:28 PM

i'll have to look, but I think I used 3/8 spacers....the orange ones from Lowes.....

maybe the light color distorts it. I know the grout doesn't look that bright standing on it either.

Phobia 09-04-2008 10:41 PM

3/8 is probably about right for that Rialto line, since it's thicker. I usually use a blending grout with that line which is why the contrast is stark for me.

Again, it's a fine job. You could install for me for $10 an hour any day. ;)

NewChief 09-05-2008 09:31 AM

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To put in the playground....what a deal that turned out to be.

I bought it off of craigslist. It was a playstar series that looked to be worth around 2200 and was built 2yrs ago. I bought it for a few hundred, had to drive to the DM area to take it down and haul it home, which took 2 trips.

I had to tear out about 30' of vintage 1930s brick and cement wall, tore out a row of hedge and 2 cedar trees. I leveled off the spot, dug a 45' trench by hand to bury a tile and hauled in the pea gravel....scooping 6 ton by hand.

The kids love it, so it was worth it in the end.

Here's ours. My major challenge was how unlevel the ground was, and the size I had to deal with. With the safety clearance, the required space was like 36'x28' on a hillside. I leveled as much as possible by hand and cross tie, then I hauled in cheap ass mulch from the city to level the playing area. I used blocks, ties, and quickrete for all the posts that actually sit on the ground. In the end it was worth it, as that area of our yard was an unusable eyesore prior to the project.

Iowanian 09-05-2008 10:54 AM

Why don't you just post a photo of your 9" taliwhacker too....

That thing probably has a sauna.


I'm sure the kids enjoy that monstrosity.

NewChief 09-05-2008 10:56 AM

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Why don't you just post a photo of your 9" taliwhacker too....

That thing probably has a sauna.

Haha. We got it at Sam's Club, but they're actually made by some company in Missouri, which is kind of cool.

Phobia 09-05-2008 10:59 AM

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Why don't you just post a photo of your 9" taliwhacker too....

That thing probably has a sauna.


I'm sure the kids enjoy that monstrosity.

Yeah - there's no way I'm posting a picture of mine now. My kid loves it and that's all that counts.

NewChief 09-05-2008 11:03 AM

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Yeah - there's no way I'm posting a picture of mine now. My kid loves it and that's all that counts.

I was pretty torn on going with something that large, and I'm the first to admit that it's overkill. We started researching them, though, and while this one was a little bit more expensive than what we originally wanted, it was a helluva lot better value than similarly priced models. We have lots and lots of kids over at our house almost every weekend, and we have two young kids who should enjoy it for the next 10 years. Anyway, we spent too much, but the project turned out well, and it sort of transformed our back yard by giving us a little bit more level play area for the kids and ourselves (you might have noticed the washer boxes back there).

Iowanian 10-21-2008 09:46 PM

I'm a little perplexed what to do......

We recently re-sided our house, along with windows....the gutter guys haven't been here yet for some reason.

Today, we poured a patio and did some dirt retaining curbs and a step on the back side, between the house and garage....finished pouring around 4.

Anyway, by 6:30 it was a light rain....It started raining hard around 8.

I went out to check, and where the rain is falling off of the house, there is a 1" or so ravine in the hardening concrete the full length of the patio.....

Not knowing what to do, because its a little late to trowel it(let alone in the rain), I threw a tarp over as much of it as I can reach so the water at least wouldnt' hit it so hard.

Ideas on what to do?


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