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DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780689)
Or his coaches recognized the flaw in Alexs game and worked around it...choosing the lesser of two evils.

What does that say about a quarterback when his coaches would rather see him take a sack rather than throw the ball past 20 yards?
Why use 20 yards as a determining factor?

I'm sure that you also realize that the 49ers have an average at best receiving corp that was even worse in 2011 (no Randy Moss, not that he was special). I actually believe they've been well below average but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

That said, he didn't have anyone to stretch the field. He was also very accurate on short and intermediate throws, which is paramount to success in a WCO.

BossChief 06-27-2013 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780698)
There's nothing wrong at all with disliking the trade.

But GoChiefs has created a false narrative about Alex Smith and pushed his agenda for months on end.

He makes general statements are disproven as relative constantly, such as taking sacks just one reason why he's "bad", yet when it's pointed out that Rodgers took more, he's silent.

When discussing his QBR, he's silent. When discussing his completion percentage, he's silent. When discussing the overtime NFC Championship, the only reason they were there according to him, was defense. On and on and on.

It's intellectually dishonest and a false narrative.
I agree, to an extent.

I guess I just see a whole new chapter of Chiefs football starting that smells eerily similar to other chapters I've had to endure.

Matt Cassel and Alex Smith were drafted the same year and Matt Cassel has more touchdown passes to his credit.

How is that even possible?

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780704)
Let me know when Alex Smith throws for 4300 yards and 39 touchdowns.

So far, the only comparable aspect is their amount of sacks taken.
Alex Smith beat Rodgers head to head last year. He also had a higher QBR, so I think your statement is incorrect.

Hammock Parties 06-27-2013 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780698)
There's nothing wrong at all with disliking the trade.

But GoChiefs has created a false narrative about Alex Smith and pushed his agenda for months on end.

He makes general statements are disproven as relative constantly, such as taking sacks just one reason why he's "bad", yet when it's pointed out that Rodgers took more, he's silent.

When discussing his QBR, he's silent. When discussing his completion percentage, he's silent. When discussing the overtime NFC Championship, the only reason they were there according to him, was defense. On and on and on.

It's intellectually dishonest and a false narrative.
I have not. I have only stated the facts.

He's a quarterback with issues in every facet of his game. Those issues place him far below the best QBs in this league.

FYI, I don't care about how many sacks Aaron Rodgers takes. He's elite. Alex Smith isn't even ****ing close...and him taking a lot of sacks is ****ing awful because he can't make up for it in the least. This isn't hard to understand, but you and others have chosen to be homers.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780734)
I agree, to an extent.

I guess I just see a whole new chapter of Chiefs football starting that smells eerily similar to other chapters I've had to endure.

Matt Cassel and Alex Smith were drafted the same year and Matt Cassel has more touchdown passes to his credit.

How is that even possible?
It's possible because Smith didn't play for a real NFL head coach until 2011, which also happened to be the first season he had any semblance of an offensive line.

And his receiving corp has always been poor.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780745)
I have not. I have only stated the facts.

He's a quarterback with issues in every facet of his game. Those issues place him far below the best QBs in this league.
Facts that have been cherry-picked by you.

LMAO

His QBR was best in the league last year and his record was 6-2, so he must be Matt Cassel.

Hammock Parties 06-27-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780736)
Alex Smith beat Rodgers head to head last year.
By throwing for all of 200 yards.

He's lucky has has that defense and running game.

TheUte 06-27-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9780704)
Let me know when Alex Smith throws for 4300 yards and 39 touchdowns.

So far, the only comparable aspect is their amount of sacks taken.
I did not compare the 2 at all.

There were what 5 posts complaining about what a big deal sacks are and how thats is one of the reasons why AS sucks so hard.

Ok, so point one sacks not an issue.

Next issue.

Hammock Parties 06-27-2013 08:44 PM
No, sacks are definitely a ****ing issue.

Why would anyone debating QBs choose to ignore this?

There is only one answer. Can you guess?

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780745)
FYI, I don't care about how many sacks Aaron Rodgers takes. He's elite. Alex Smith isn't even ****ing close...and him taking a lot of sacks is ****ing awful because he can't make up for it in the least. This isn't hard to understand, but you and others have chosen to be homers.
Homer? No. I couldn't care less if we were discussing the starting QB of the Arizona Cardinals.

You have continually misrepresented stats while conveniently avoid reporting others from your precious PFF because it doesn't fit your false narrative.

With Geno Smith failing like a lead brick I the draft, you've had no other way to call attention to yourself, so you've created this nonsensical false narrative about Alex Smith.

But hey, at least we're discussing football, so I'll give you credit in that regard.

RunKC 06-27-2013 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780761)
By throwing for all of 200 yards.

He's lucky has has that defense and running game.
The 49ers offense scored 30 points that game. And if I'm not mistaken, we have a pretty damn good running game here.

DaneMcCloud 06-27-2013 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780761)
By throwing for all of 200 yards.

He's lucky has has that defense and running game.
Please name Smith's wide receivers in San Fran. Then name the wide receivers in Green Bay and tell me they're equal.

Thanks in advance.

TheUte 06-27-2013 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780768)
No, sacks are definitely a ****ing issue.

Why would anyone debating QBs choose to ignore this?

There is only one answer. Can you guess?
When do sacks stop becoming an issue?

BossChief 06-27-2013 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780751)
It's possible because Smith didn't play for a real NFL head coach until 2011, which also happened to be the first season he had any semblance of an offensive line.

And his receiving corp has always been poor.
Matt Cassel didn't even get a chance to play until 2008 and had as good of a year as Alex ever has.

Eerily similar.

Almost like it's fate.

BossChief 06-27-2013 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 9780784)
When do sacks stop becoming an issue?
When you have the ability to carry your team, not need your team to carry you.


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