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Wisconsin_Chief 12-03-2024 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17839326)
And this is how KC got Taylor at his over market contract...

Which by the way, I don't hold it against BV.

Correct, because of Veach’s failure to draft even one decent tackle in the last 5 years, guys like Taylor and Humphries are the best we can do. No team is letting elite tackles walk. So, you either overpay for average players, or watch Mahomes waste another season running for his life.

To be clear, I’m not picking on Veach and I don’t hold it against him, either. This might have become the second hardest position in the league to fill behind QB. It’s just damn near impossible at this point. These college programs are just not sending in enough talent, and it really sucks.

MahomesMagic 12-03-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17839347)
Correct, because of Veach’s failure to draft even one decent tackle in the last 5 years, guys like Taylor and Humphries are the best we can do. No team is letting elite tackles walk. So, you either overpay for average players, or watch Mahomes waste another season running for his life.

To be clear, I’m not picking on Veach and I don’t hold it against him, either. This might have become the second hardest position in the league to fill behind QB. It’s just damn near impossible at this point. These college programs are just not sending in enough talent, and it really sucks.



The issue is you need to either draft top ten to get a plug and play guy OR draft talented projects that won't be ready.


I think it is obvious we need to sign competent place holders to play during our SB window and keep drafting guys like Kingsley.

O.city 12-03-2024 01:55 PM

Kingsley is 21 years old. He wasn't ready, it happens.

DQCHIEF 12-03-2024 01:57 PM

What really shocks me is after the Super Bowl loss to the Bucs I never thought we would be in this position again. I understand it's not easy but how did we end up here? I am not complaining, our back to back Super Bowls are more than I ever dreamed, I'm just surprised.

FloridaMan88 12-03-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17839349)
Kingsley is 21 years old. He wasn't ready, it happens.

Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17839355)
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.

Or how he got the starting job with the multitude of issues he had. He had multiple fatal flaws exposed against the Bengals and Broncos.

MahomesMagic 12-03-2024 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17839355)
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.

I still don't get why we didn't push harder for Tyron Smith or someone like him.


It seems last year was the year of no WR's and this is the year of no LT so far.


3 Peat is depending on DJ right now.

O.city 12-03-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17839355)
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.

They went with the young secondary in 22. Worked out.

Young WR's in 23....didn't work.

Shit happens. I dunno.

FloridaMan88 12-03-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17839361)
I still don't get why we didn't push harder for Tyron Smith or someone like him.


It seems last year was the year of no WR's and this is the year of no LT so far.


3 Peat is depending on DJ right now.

Yep, so much is now dependent on a guy coming off of a major knee injury who hasn’t played in almost a full calendar year.

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:08 PM

Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out

JPH83 12-03-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17839361)
I still don't get why we didn't push harder for Tyron Smith or someone like him.


It seems last year was the year of no WR's and this is the year of no LT so far.


3 Peat is depending on DJ right now.

I liked and wanted Tyron Smith but, not unreasonably, people pointed to his injury record. LT is the one area where they really got the eval wrong. It happens I guess.

Just have to accept we may never have an elite LT protecting Mahomes. Next option is 2027 when we can boot Taylor, but unfortunately it's 2026 that looks like the pick of the LT FA years. Gotta keep swinging in the draft and hoping, and finding cheap OK-ish vets.

Not blaming Veach, but God i hate Taylor and his sh***y contract

O.city 12-03-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839369)
Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out

It'll be Thuney.

Once you make that move they did Sunday, there's no goin back.

Wisconsin_Chief 12-03-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17839366)
They went with the young secondary in 22. Worked out.

Young WR's in 23....didn't work.

Shit happens. I dunno.

Yeah, I mean, this is how it has to work when you have a 500 million dollar QB. It’s just how it’s going to be for us, they’re going to have to take chances with youth. I just hope they’ve learned it simply can’t be at the tackle position.

The important thing is they keep finding ways to win, which can’t be said for most franchises. Until that stops, we just roll with it.

Gary Cooper 12-03-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17839361)
I still don't get why we didn't push harder for Tyron Smith or someone like him.


It seems last year was the year of no WR's and this is the year of no LT so far.


3 Peat is depending on DJ right now.

They were either really high on Kingsley or thought Tyron Smith wasn't reliable due to his injury history. From what I remember, Smith's contract with the Jets was heavily incentivized on him playing a lot of snaps.

Now they're ironically bringing in Humphries, who also has an injury history.

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:11 PM

Agreed. When Mahomes is done, it's a wrap. And he seemed pretty ****ing done with Morris on that second sack.


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