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9er guy 07-23-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9829131)
I'm thinking that 12 yard box doesn't account for YAC.

No it doesn't. And to Alex's credit he likes to let his guys make plays. There'll be lots of chances for YAC. Cause Alex aint throwin it deeper than 12 yards.

9er guy 07-23-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9829137)
The team has scored 13 PPG the last 2 years, that would be like Arena Football.

Damn. Well when you put it like that.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829139)
No it doesn't. And to Alex's credit he likes to let his guys make plays. There'll be lots of chances for YAC. Cause Alex aint throwin it deeper than 12 yards.

This is the kind of thing I talked about when I noted that Matt Cassel threw the ball down the field more than Alex Smith.

JFC.

Some of Bowe's best YAC plays, Cassel was throwing the ball 15-20 yards down the field.

9er guy 07-23-2013 11:33 AM

The AFC is wide open. If you guys can get hot. Anything is possible.

The Bolts are trash, the Raiders are a joke, and the donks are basically "The Colts West" with an older P. Manning. (I'm really starting to hate the Broncos and I don't know why)

It's gonna be on Andy Reid to develop a sound consistent system to fit his personnel. And the defense has to be at least middle of the pack.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-23-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829161)
The AFC is wide open. If you guys can get hot. Anything is possible.

The Bolts are trash, the Raiders are a joke, and the donks are basically "The Colts West" with an older P. Manning. (I'm really starting to hate the Broncos and I don't know why)

It's gonna be on Andy Reid to develop a sound consistent system to fit his personnel. And the defense has to be at least middle of the pack.

Yeah, I'm not really scared of a team who's Head Coach kneels down with a HOF QB behind center.

Jakemall 07-23-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829139)
No it doesn't. And to Alex's credit he likes to let his guys make plays. There'll be lots of chances for YAC. Cause Alex aint throwin it deeper than 12 yards.

Yup, those seam passes to VD are all imaginary. I don't know why teams started doubling him deep.

Jakemall 07-23-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829144)
This is the kind of thing I talked about when I noted that Matt Cassel threw the ball down the field more than Alex Smith.

JFC.

Some of Bowe's best YAC plays, Cassel was throwing the ball 15-20 yards down the field.

Some argue that Alex was adverse to throw into traffic because his WRs for the longest time wouldn't fight for the ball. I'm curious to see how well he performs with Bowe. He did pretty well with Crabtree this past year when Crabtree decided to show up for work. I think Bowe is the better WR.

9er guy 07-23-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9829144)
This is the kind of thing I talked about when I noted that Matt Cassel threw the ball down the field more than Alex Smith.

JFC.

Some of Bowe's best YAC plays, Cassel was throwing the ball 15-20 yards down the field.

Yea,that's not happening. Not with any regularity anyway.

Unless he's WIDE OPEN.

Most of his throws are going to be right around the first down marker. Either just in front of it, or just behind it.

Now, some of that is scheme obviously. Kaep throws some short passes too. Every Qb does. But IMO, I felt like that was our passing offense.

Fat Elvis 07-23-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9829086)
But you need more than one running back. Moaki is the key.

Moeaki might wind up as the 3rd string TE....

duncan_idaho 07-23-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9829044)
So what if the Chiefs make the playoffs, and win a playoff game?

It would be cool to win a playoff game for the first time since 1993. I won't deny that. Whether I change my tune on Alex Smith depends on how they win the playoff game.

A playoff win like the one against the Saints, followed by a loss in the next round where Alex Smith can't make consistent plays against a good D and can't keep his offense on the field? Doesn't do much for me other than break the embarrassing streak of complete postseason failure.

It's not Alex Smith's general competence I question. He's an OK NFL starter, and as long as Andy Reid and co. treat him like that and nothing more, there's no long term damage. What I question is Smith's ability to be the QB who makes plays against elite teams and good defenses in elimination settings.

Making the playoffs and winning a game with Alex Smith is not necessarily a good thing, either. I imagine they'd extend him regardless, if they win a playoff game. Even if he is merely a bystander to winning the game rather than the lynchpin, and probably even if he shits the bed in the next round again.

9er guy 07-23-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9829174)
Yup, those seam passes to VD are all imaginary. I don't know why teams started doubling him deep.

Vernon's deadliest routes with Smitty were the wheel and the underneath stuff.

You're not going to find a whole lot of tape of VD just eating on 25 yard seams with Alex at QB.

The deep seam action would be there. But we weren't hitting those with any kind of regularity with Smitty.

Walker ran a deep seam against Baltimore in 2011. Very early in the game.

WIDE OPEN. Smitty throws the check down.

He talks about it after the game and he says, "I saw it. But I didn't want to go to it right away. I thought the opportunity would be there later in the game."


It wasn't.

duncan_idaho 07-23-2013 11:49 AM

Also... while we're talking about WRs and TEs and targets...

Bowe is probably a better receiver than what Crabtree has become, but I don't think he's nearly the matchup problem that Vernon Davis is. No knock against Bowe, whom I've supported and liked for a long time, but Davis is just a freak of nature.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 11:49 AM

Hey 9er guy.

What would have happened to the 49ers offense if you replaced Vernon Davis with just a decent tight end?

Sandy Vagina 07-23-2013 11:54 AM

LMAO ... 49AllTheTime is now in the house, lolz... welcome.

Hammock Parties 07-23-2013 11:55 AM

Reinforcements!

We will repel the invasion of Alex Smith homers with our allies from the West.


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