You all have convinced me the Patriots are getting Trevor Lawrence, I hate you all, thank you.

Agreed.

The NFLPA won't allow it.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Jesus, what am I saying - why would the NFLPA ever be able to get their act together long enough to not get rolled over again?

I think it’s WAY more likely that Tua falls and they trade up for him.

LMAO

Accurate, but I think even the league is aware enough to know that they will lose all sorts of stars this season if they go from pornhub training to real game speed on a dime.

I think Tua is going to Miami, to me is significantly better than Herbert.

I have this thought NE may drop out of the 1st and take Jake Fromm.

'Phins go after Herbert in that scenario?

Miami has to come away from this with a QB, right? They're sporting more draft capital than I've ever seen. I'm sure someone's topped it in the past, but I don't recall it.

Agreed on the first part and while I think NE would like to do the 2nd half, they're not going to get the bites.

There was that year the Jets had 4 1's.

There’s A LOT of smoke that they might just go positional player and make a move for Love.

I personally think they take Tua, but Albert Breer said nobody he’s talked to thinks it’s going to happen.

That would be just a big enough '**** you' from BB for me to believe it.

"Tom Brady - pft, I'll just make a new one..."

Well he can't very well get credit for building a new Brady if he starts w/ the best QB prospect in a decade.

I said this before, I think Miami goes to 3 and takes Tua, I think Herbert slides and ends up with the Raiders. Chargers stay put and take Jedrick Wills, Chargers trade their second round pick + other picks to NE for thier 1 and take Jordan Love, NE takes Jake Fromm with the high second.

That's my call for now.

I don't see him taking the deal. First it would be not Tom but another great QB. So that really does not work. Sure you won with Brady/Lawerence.

Second he is all about the team and doing it his way. He has something to prove. He failed in Cleveland, did not do well before Brady came, did pretty good with Cassell and fill ins when Brady was out later in his career. I think he is thinking division and playoffs.

I think they stand still and the Chargers will simply take the last QB left. Flores is in that Saban and Belichick love triangle and I think they're simply throwing the Chargers off the trail with the Herbert talk. They want Tua, but not enough to trade up for him.

They need those assets. As for the Chargers, they want someone more careful with the football after years of Phillip Rivers going all Phillip Rivers at the worst possible moment. I don't think Love is going to be a strong like there.

Maybe but then you run the risk of the Chargers swapping out with Gettleman, since the giants are going OT.

I'll be honest - I'd feel compelled to root for them if they did.

That's balls or bust all the way. You're gonna need a top 10 QB at worst to sneak past Mahomes (and that presumes your roster is better than his). I don't think Love will ever be that guy, but he does have the physical tools to develop at that level.

But the weird thing about this draft, as deep as it is, I don't see a slam dunk pick at 5. Maybe Andrew Thomas? I'm not a Simmons stan (or at least I don't see him as being an obvious top 5 guy). Jeudy and Lamb aren't top 5 guys, are they?

I mean if Young and Okudah are off the board, who's the obvious pick at 5?