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Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17839379)
They were either really high on Kingsley or thought Tyron Smith wasn't reliable due to his injury history. From what I remember, Smith's contract with the Jets was heavily incentivized on him playing a lot of snaps.

Now they're ironically bringing in Humphries, who also has an injury history.

Yep. 6 million guaranteed with incentives that could push it up to 20 million almost entirely earned by a percentage of snaps played.

O.city 12-03-2024 02:12 PM

They lost their #1 WR (who was looking like he may have been a legit top 5 WR this year) their #2 WR and their #1 Rb all in the first month of the season.

We've discussed that all before but shit....if that happened to say...the Ravens or the Eagles, do we think they're sitting at 11-1?

They've won back to back SB's and are the 1 seed thru 12 games in a 3 peat season, with some catastrophic injuries. Guys are coming back. Just gotta see how it plays out.

MahomesMagic 12-03-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17839379)
They were either really high on Kingsley or thought Tyron Smith wasn't reliable due to his injury history. From what I remember, Smith's contract with the Jets was heavily incentivized on him playing a lot of snaps.

Now they're ironically bringing in Humphries, who also has an injury history.

I was shocked when Kingsley was named starter. Pleasantly surprised because I assumed he would NOT be ready.


As smart as this team is, I still wonder about how we miss on guys we can see in practice like Toney, Skyy, or Kingsley.

Marcellus 12-03-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839303)
How else can one set when your offense is constantly in shotgun, your coach puts you on an island virtually every snap and your QB has probably the deepest drop-back point in the league?

We've ALWAYS utilized deep sets. At least since Mahomes took over. That was the biggest worry with Orlando Brown Jr -- did he have the feet to make those deep sets work? That's not a 'weakness' of Taylor, it's a necessity in this offense. He HAS to get back out of his stance and take a deep set.

I won't say an inability to deal with that is a real indictment of Smith necessarily, just another example of him not being an ideal fit here. He just isn't. Thuney doesn't struggle to keep that outside shoulder protected despite having a MUCH worse OT alongside him and dealing with similar problems. Thuney, to this day, is probably the best pass-blocking OG in the league.

Thuney is a dream scenario in terms of skill sets and scheme fit. Smith just isn't.

For reference.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One day we will learn to pick up an E/T on the right side. Today is not that day.<br><br>Trey is put in an impossible situation every game. Knows it’s coming, knows he’s going to get no help from Jawaan, and is the one who gets picked and has to deal with DEs teeing off on him. Sucks.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860790127846662238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s not true. We were pretty good in my time. They’ve been a much bigger issue the last two years because Jawaan uses the same pass set every time where he sets super deep and allows the DE to get inside pressure. Until he changes it there’s nothing that will improve. <a href="https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1">https://t.co/3FrXXiosO1</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1860792303197303175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes007 12-03-2024 02:17 PM

How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.

The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less.

dlphg9 12-03-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839369)
Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out

I think we will know based on who they have active on Sunday. If Morris is active, then I think he's the backup.

TomBarndtsTwin 12-03-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839369)
Wonder what they'll do if it doesn't work out? Throw Thuney out at LT again or go back to Morris? Hopefully we don't have to find out

Honestly? I think they'll call up Donovan Smith if they have to.

I think Mahomes is DONE with Morris at LT and consequently, right or wrong, the KC staff will be too.

Gotta keep the Franchise happy.

ChiTown 12-03-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17839355)
Which is understandable.

What is not understandable is why the Chiefs entered this season with only Wanya Morris as a back-up option if Kingsley wasn’t ready.

It's pretty obvious they thought they were going to get more out of Wanya in year 2 than what they have so far. It was a miscalculation for sure.

MahomesMagic 12-03-2024 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17839389)
How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey.

The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid.

Frank Clark issue was we traded draft capital too.

Jawaan was market value.

Reid is a fine contract.

MVS was overpaid but by a few million. He was a 5 million player that they paid 10-11 to.

staylor26 12-03-2024 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17839389)
How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.

The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less.

Who the **** is this reerun?

dlphg9 12-03-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17839393)
Honestly? I think they'll call up Donovan Smith if they have to.

I think Mahomes is DONE with Morris at LT and consequently, right or wrong, the KC staff will be too.

Gotta keep the Franchise happy.

Donovan Smith isn't gonna be on this team. If they wanted him they would have brought him in weeks ago. He'd be worse than Morris was against the Raiders.

Mahomes007 12-03-2024 02:22 PM

You cannot even spell rerun properly.

You have Jawaan and Creed as significant overpays, to start. And Thuney received a massive contract at that time, as well. WTF.

Sassy Squatch 12-03-2024 02:23 PM

Yep. From all accounts it sounds like it was either/or between Smith and Humphries.

SHOWTIME 12-03-2024 02:24 PM

Do we even have an offensive line coach or did Andy hire some 30 year old intern like he did the kid who coaches the WRs?

staylor26 12-03-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17839398)
You cannot even spell rerun properly.

You have Jawaan and Creed as significant overpays, to start. And Thuney received a massive contract at that time, as well. WTF.

It's a filter you ****ing noob. I'm calling you a R-E-T-A-R-D.

Everybody has to overpay you butt****ing moron. If you want a GM that never overpays go be a fan of the ****ing Indianapolis Colts and Chris Ballard. Sounds like more your speed.


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