Man, that was a tough one

Brutal.
There are a lot of people that "aren't right", it's just more jagged when they are kids.

Wow. What an episode

One of the darker, most messed up episodes I can remember since the days of the Governor.

I guess it could have been worse if Tyreese would have beat her with that 9 pound hammer he carries around. How does he even swing that bitch?

9 pound? It doesn't look that big. It looks like about a 22 oz. with a about a two foot handle - which would result in a lot of force!

(but I'm just guessing. If they ever specified - i missed it)

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Dude...you are hammer illiterate

Going back an episode - Maggie wielding that street sign like an axe! It definitely would be effective - but it would be pretty heavy to swing more than once or twice.

Dark episode.

adrenaline high.

She sure isn't use to big things with glenn though. hey ohh.


For the lamers, this is why we like character driven episodes. Makes episodes like this matter more.

Holy Crap yes that was dark. I haven't read the comics but is that anywhere close to the feel the comics give off??

"Just look at the flowers......."

That's the exact feel. That scenes almost directly from the comics, just different characters.

As someone who has not read the comic books....did the events of tonight's episode happen in the comic books and how similar/different was it?

Wow what a great episode.

Wow, what an epsiode. I'm not sure what to think about what happened in that episode, great one nonetheless.

It had been a while since this show really surprised me, I didn't think it would be willing to there.

Damn it. I quit watching a couple of weeks ago, but my son still watches it. There are just too many shows that I want to watch, especially on Sunday night, so I figured I'd gain an hour every week by dropping this show.

My son came into my basement office last night at 8:45 and said "Dad, you need to be watching this! One of those two little girls just killed the other one because she wanted her to turn into a zombie!".

So I wound up watching the replay at 10:00, and now I'm hooked again. I stopped watching The Walking Dead in favor of the new Cosmos show, but I've decided that Neil deGrasse Tyson is a helluva lot more interesting when he is just speaking in a conversational tone. When he reads the scripts on Cosmos, it sounds like he is talking to third graders.

I didnt like it cuz there weren't no zombies being killt, Derp. Why do they keep just walkin round and not killin more zombeez, Derp.

This was a good, but very tough episode for me to watch, especially as a dad with two girls right around Lizzies age. I've always had a hard time with the death of Sophia and this episode just hit too hard. It was a great episode, I just don't have the stomach for killing children off, even if they are psychotic and danger to themselves and everyone else.

I actually thought Carol was going to run off with Lizzie there for a while. That was probably the best episode I've seen so far. Very well done.

man oh man....oh man....
wow. how frigging SAD.

I am disappointed that my man Tyrese stood back and let Carol take care of that situation. but shit man.....what an episode! I honestly thought it'd be a pillow over the face that night.

at the beginning of the episode when they showed the shot thru the kitchen window my wife was like.....what in the hell is going on there. I said....it's that fruitcake playing with a damn zombie! ROFL she's like, no way that's what's going on. TOLD YA!

It takes a great deal for me to find a TV show disturbing. Last night was very much so. Wow.

I figured that Carol would take Lizze back to her sister after she'd turned, and let her get bitten/eaten, so in the end she would finally learn that Walkers aren't people, and it would be a fitting end and justice for Mika in some form.

Then once she was dead/turned, put both kiddie walkers down.

Not quite as good or disturbing, but this episode still puts up a good fight against "The Red Wedding" from Game of Thrones as the most F'ed up show.

all of this.



but what a fantastic ep. if you aren't a fan of TWD now (especially after this episode), then you never will be.

If you weren't a fan and were watching for this long just to see if it would eventually interest you then you might be psychotic or just incapable of getting up from a couch.

Don't judge me...I lost the remote.

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I was thinking about that very show I when I posted this morning. It was IMHO the best show since "the Red Wedding"

What was that from?

Isn't that from a couple of episodes back when Carl and Michone were going through the suicide family's house?

Yeah that was the painting that was up against the door that was closed that had the family inside. Weird how it was in a way of sign of things to come

Almost as if they planned it that way...

True Detective type clue.....

See, I was completely unaffected. I saw where her psychosis was heading, and dreaded how it would be handled as I wasn't buying the storyline at all. I just can't cotton to the concept of a girl who's lived this long after the event and still thinks walkers are friends who want to play.. MAYBE a 3yo, but no adolescent who's seen many killed at their hands..

Sophia was a tragedy because it was a plausible storyline, this was just schlock. A writer's room 'what if we?!?!?' moment.

Sad that the little sister had to pay for the storyline. But the big sister was the worst gambit in the show thus far.

Damn forgot about that.

Thinking that they are "friends that want to play" is probably an internal coping mechanism to everything that has happened to her.

Well, even though I was ready to throw in the towel on this show last week, I caved and watched this week . . . and now I'm definitely ready to throw in the towel. Don't get me wrong; it was a superior episode to the last few weeks, Melissa McBride was outstanding, and Brighton Sharbino might be the next Dakota Fanning.

The problem I have is with the subject matter. I don't feel comfortable with children being killed - innocent ones murdered, even - in movies and TV. It wasn't always acceptable - Jurassic Park took a fair bit of pre-release criticism because of a rumor that one of the kids would get eaten, for example; now we have Hunger Games, and no one seems to mind. Yes, the plot of this episode made sense for the setting, it was dramatically and thematically justified, and well done, but I don't think that story needed to be told. It's not doing anyone any good.

Cya

Meh, I mentioned a few pages back that TV shows and most movies don't kill off babies or small children very often. However, this show is becoming more and more true to the comics. Nearly this exact situation happened in the comics and the writers know what works.
They made the audience pretty much hate Lizzy to excuse her execution. They almost did away with Judith as well but that would've been overboard at this point in time.

The show has become very serious but it still has some room for improvement.

We'll probably see an example of that next week. I don't have much faith in the next ep just from seeing the previews. It's still the best show on tv right now, though.

Just watched on the DVR. Man, really torn. It was everything this show can be from an execution standpoint. Carol and Tyreese were excellent, Lizzie was really good with that blank look.....but man, the content is difficult to stomach. I've read the comics up through leaving the prison, but the content in a black and white comic isn't as real as a TV show.

If you can't take the violence in The Hunger Games, make sure you never watch Japan's Battle Royale. The Hunger Games is basically the much tamer version of that movie.

I already saw it, and yes, but it's not the violence. It's that the little kid was killed on screen. I don't think that's good for society.

Definitely see what you're saying. My wife could barely watch the episode last night (DVR'd), and she said she thought Sophia was bad but at least she was a zombie. But my thought is, it's true to how hard life would be in an environment like they are in. It's just them, no police, no psychiatric hospital they can take her to, just them. She was a danger to Tyrese, Carol, and Judith not to mention everybody else they may come in contact with. She was beyond help and they knew it.

That said, don't get me wrong, it was very difficult to watch.

anybody know why Judith wasnt with Tyreese and carol at the end?

She was on Tyreese's back

She was covered in the blanket on Tyreese's back.

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They had to kill her, if they let her live by separating her from them she would of did like the one woman(that rick met) did and lure people to their death. She would be a serial killer in the zombie apocalypse.

I don't get it, is it a shock to see kids killed in a movie or tv show? You know its not real life and they are actually ok right? I have a daughter of my own and when in real life kids get killed or harmed it gets to me big time, but this is a tv show I could care less if they showed that little baby getting blown to pieces.

First off, it's "you couldn't care less" if that baby was blown to pieces.

Secondly, some people, (me included) are sensitive to any harm coming to children and babies. Wether it's real or not is immeterial. We, (being the majority) are sensitive to that type of thing.

ROFL

Absolutely agree, not too much of a choice. It made me think of 'Of Mice and Men'.

I was wondering...did Lizzie know it was coming? Or was she just upset because she thought Carol was mad at her?

I don't think she saw it coming...she was upset cause she thought Carol was upset cause she pointed the gun at her

Technically, both girls were killed off screen. We didn't see either one actually get stabbed or shot.

I am asking why you are sensitive to that in a tv show? It is a tv show its fake not real.

You're suspending belief in the first place to make the zombie apocalypse believable, right? Secondly, a lot of people just have problems with any type of violence involving children, either real or fake.

Correct, they talked about this on The Talking Dead. Lizzie had such a disconnect with killing her sister and turning her into a walker that she thought Carol was more upset with her (Lizzie) pointing a gun at her and Tyreese.

All in all it was a great episode and the Lizzie character was a great look into how a child might end up in a zombie apocalypse.

They didn’t actually show any child being killed. It was heavily implied but you didn’t see the actual death blow.
They didn’t show Lizzy stabbing Mica to death, she was on the ground dead and Lizzy’s hands/knife were covered with blood when Carol and Tyreese arrived. You didn’t see Carol shoot Lizzy, the camera pulled back to inside with Tyreese and Judith when Carol pulled the trigger. You didn’t even see Lizzy fall, just heard the sound effect of someone falling.
I’m not making excuses or justifying the show and I can understand people’s sensitivity about such things, just trying to inject a little perspective.

Edit: Or I could've read the entire topic before posting.

Anyone else find it fascinating that Carol had to do to her "adopted" daughter Lizzie what Rick had to do to Carol's actual daughter Sophia? Both had to "put down" a monster but in differing states, for lack of a better term.

This has probably been mentioned but they did an excellent job of casting Lizzie. She had the crazy eyes and played that role perfectly.

That would be an extremely tough decision to make but there's no room for psychos in that world.

It would have only been a matter of time before she killed Rick, or Carol, or Tyreese, etc. in their sleep. Or Judith.

Living with an alive Lizzie would have been as terrifying as living with the dead all around them.

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LMAO Copied and sent to the wife.

ROFL Nice find!

Not only that but she was likely going to get herself killed in a brutal, torturous manner.

It would have been more satisfying to have the little psycho "playing" with one of the zombies, get caught, and realize the error of her ways just prior to having her face eaten.

Or have her freshly zombified little sister eat her...

Hah. Yeah. That would have been even better.

Ahahahaha LMAO

That's gold LMAO

I hated that little girl ever since she tried to smother that baby. Little psycho bitch.

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Where did you attach that? It's only coming through as a link.

I did it through tapatalk. It displays on tapatalk as the image...

I'm surprised that they said on talking dead (I didn't watch it....just read posts) that she didn't know it was coming. I had the opposite impression. Carol keeps saying "just look at the flowers" and she keeps on looking down while crying......I kinda thought she knew....

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