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VAChief 08-05-2012 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8793229)
So whats up with Shelby Miller?



Also read Taveras is raking shit right now and there are whispers he might make the September callup.
I think with Berkman down again they should consider him now, but for sure in September along with Wong and Jackson our future up the middle.

BigRedChief 08-05-2012 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 8793532)
I think with Berkman down again they should consider him now, but for sure in September along with Wong and Jackson our future up the middle.
No need to hurry him. Taveras and Wong should be on the Major Laeagur roster next year.

Mi_chief_fan 08-05-2012 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793539)
No need to hurry him. Taveras and Wong should be on the Major Laeagur roster next year.
Was reading on www.stltoday.com/sports/cards that baseball prospectus ranks Tavarez as the #4 prospect, and after recent trades by the Yankees and Reds, the Cardinals now have the #1 farm system. Not sure if they're more reliable than Baseball America.

BigRedChief 08-05-2012 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 8793564)
Was reading on www.stltoday.com/sports/cards that baseball prospectus ranks Tavarez as the #4 prospect, and after recent trades by the Yankees and Reds, the Cardinals now have the #1 farm system. Not sure if they're more reliable than Baseball America.
Most teams that are not top 5 payrolls in MLB after a WS apperance falls off the playoff radar for at least a few years.

We went to 3 WS in 7 years. And in 2014 we will have a better lineup than should produce a longer window of oppertunity than when we started this current run.

Al Bundy 08-05-2012 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793600)
Most teams that are not top 5 payrolls in MLB after a WS apperance falls off the playoff radar for at least a few years.

We went to 3 WS in 7 years. And in 2014 we will have a better lineup than should produce a longer window of oppertunity than when we started this current run.
Having ownerships MAIN desire to win does that.. having the Glasshole family who are scumbags as the ownership has the exact opposite effect.

Mi_chief_fan 08-05-2012 06:54 PM
:clap::clap::clap::clap:
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793600)
Most teams that are not top 5 payrolls in MLB after a WS apperance falls off the playoff radar for at least a few years.

We went to 3 WS in 7 years. And in 2014 we will have a better lineup than should produce a longer window of oppertunity than when we started this current run.
:clap:

Preach on, brother!

BigRedChief 08-05-2012 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 8793608)
Having ownerships MAIN desire to win does that.. having the Glasshole family who are scumbags as the ownership has the exact opposite effect.
But it is possible for the Royals to have a winner some day. 7 out of the 9 players on the field when we won the World series were drafted or developed by the Cardinals. The Royals could do that.

ShowtimeSBMVP 08-05-2012 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793678)
But it is possible for the Royals to have a winner some day. 7 out of the 9 players on the field when we won the World series were drafted or developed by the Cardinals. The Royals could do that.
Can i see your ring?

VAChief 08-05-2012 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793539)
No need to hurry him. Taveras and Wong should be on the Major Laeagur roster next year.
Two weeks before September would not be rushing it in my opinion especially if you plan on calling them up in September. If you think they are ready for next year AND you think you have a chance at the playoffs, you might want to see who is a possibility for playoff rosters (ala Worrell, 1985).

BigRedChief 08-05-2012 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 8793684)
Two weeks before September would not be rushing it in my opinion especially if you plan on calling them up in September. If you think they are ready for next year AND you think you have a chance at the playoffs, you might want to see who is a possibility for playoff rosters (ala Worrell, 1985).
What about that service time? If he comes up before September does that start the 6 years of control time that the cardinals have in their pocket?

Al Bundy 08-05-2012 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8793678)
But it is possible for the Royals to have a winner some day. 7 out of the 9 players on the field when we won the World series were drafted or developed by the Cardinals. The Royals could do that.
None of our guys are in the same stratosphere as Pujols was. Plus our starting pitching is shit and there is no way any of our guys in the minors are legit number 1 or 2 ML starters, most are 5's.

BigRedChief 08-05-2012 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 8793709)
None of our guys are in the same stratosphere as Pujols was. Plus our starting pitching is shit and there is no way any of our guys in the minors are legit number 1 or 2 ML starters, most are 5's.
You just have to draft better. Draft #1's, not #5's. Your drafting near the top, you have a better chance than most.

Pujols was a lucky draft pick but the whole roster wasnt lucky picks and we didnt win the WS because of Pujols.

OnTheWarpath15 08-05-2012 08:08 PM
LMAO

Good work, T-Douche.

Frazod 08-05-2012 08:20 PM
Craig with the clutch 2-out double. :thumb:

O.city 08-05-2012 08:21 PM
Now your man at the plate Frazod.


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